2021 Free Agents

[returnofjakedog]

I'm pleasantly surprised that he is back!

Reports are that Russell Wilson worked hard to convince him to return.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

I'm pleasantly surprised that he is back!

Reports are that Russell Wilson worked hard to convince him to return.

I find that encouraging. Got a link for that?

 

[returnofjakedog]

I find that encouraging. Got a link for that?

In this ESPN article about halfway down.

Agents: Seahawks keep Carson on 3-year deal

The Seattle Seahawks are re-signing running back Chris Carson on a three-year, $24.625 million deal that voids after two years, his agents told ESPN.

www.espn.com

 

[HaroldSeattle]

In this ESPN article about halfway down.

Agents: Seahawks keep Carson on 3-year deal

The Seattle Seahawks are re-signing running back Chris Carson on a three-year, $24.625 million deal that voids after two years, his agents told ESPN.

www.espn.com

Thanks!

 

[flyerhawk]

I like carson a lot bu that's too much for a RB

2021: $2.5M cap hit ($1M base salary + $1.5M pro rated portion of signing bonus)
2022: $6.45M* cap hit ($4.5M base salary + $1.5M pro rated portion of signing bonus + $450k in per game roster bonuses)
2023: $1.5M* dead cap hit (final portion of pro rated signing bonus that will be recognized against the cap after the contract voids after the 2022 season).

Seems pretty darn good to me.

 

[Screamin12th]

2021: $2.5M cap hit ($1M base salary + $1.5M pro rated portion of signing bonus)
2022: $6.45M* cap hit ($4.5M base salary + $1.5M pro rated portion of signing bonus + $450k in per game roster bonuses)
2023: $1.5M* dead cap hit (final portion of pro rated signing bonus that will be recognized against the cap after the contract voids after the 2022 season).

Seems pretty darn good to me.

yeah that's pretty good and seeing that the 3rd year allows them to spread the "signing bonus" over 3 years but only pay him for two is a smart move.

Now lets get some restructuring done on some contracts.

 

[MrS]

So carson really got $10m over 2 years. Where is 3 years $24m coming from?

 

[blstoker]

So carson really got $10m over 2 years. Where is 3 years $24m coming from?

Well, he can make an additional 6.9 million in per game incentives in year 2. On top of that, NFL contract rules may require a number be attached to the third season even if it's being voided. Never run into this style of contract before honestly, so not sure of the nitty gritty of that voided third season.

 

[blstoker]

Well, he can make an additional 6.9 million in per game incentives in year 2. On top of that, NFL contract rules may require a number be attached to the third season even if it's being voided. Never run into this style of contract before honestly, so not sure of the nitty gritty of that voided third season.

I got too quick on typing, its not 6.9 million in incentives, its up to 6.9 million guaranteed with incentives, including game bonuses.

 

[Screamin12th]

Chris Carson’s new deal is a two-year, $10.425M deal with a $4.5M signing bonus and a $1m guaranteed 2021 salary. He has a $4.5M non-guaranteed 2022 salary and $450K in per-game roster bonuses in ‘22. Up to $1.4 incentives each year (rush yds, rec yds, TDs) there is also the voided 3rd year for 14 mill. that year is just to spread out the signing bonus.

It is a 3 year contract with only 2 real years, it's a loop hole to help teams spread out bonus money and cap hit.

 

[Uhsplit]

He is a stud and I am glad he is back. Subject to his health, this is a good contract for the team.
Also, good for Chris. He earned his payday the hard way and now he gets his $.

 

[seahawksfan234]

2021: $2.5M cap hit ($1M base salary + $1.5M pro rated portion of signing bonus)
2022: $6.45M* cap hit ($4.5M base salary + $1.5M pro rated portion of signing bonus + $450k in per game roster bonuses)
2023: $1.5M* dead cap hit (final portion of pro rated signing bonus that will be recognized against the cap after the contract voids after the 2022 season).

Seems pretty darn good to me.

We got lucky with this deal to a certain extent. I'm surprised some team didn't look past his injury history and offer him a ton of guaranteed money.

The contract is very, very, very team friendly. Hell, even if Chris only plays 8 games in 2021 for $2.5m it's a bargain.

 

[Mariners_44]

Same... Basically the same RB core but Alex Collins is replacing Carlos Hyde for the most part...

I liked Hyde so it’s not a slight on him, but Alex Collins is an upgrade as Carson’s Robin. Whenever Alex had the ball last year he ran with a lot of intensity that will wear out defenses in a way Hyde wasn’t doing last year. I’m stoked Carson is back but equally excited that we now have a two headed battering ram with Collins.

 

[Screamin12th]

I liked Hyde so it’s not a slight on him, but Alex Collins is an upgrade as Carson’s Robin. Whenever Alex had the ball last year he ran with a lot of intensity that will wear out defenses in a way Hyde wasn’t doing last year. I’m stoked Carson is back but equally excited that we now have a two headed battering ram with Collins.

You do know that Carson and Penny will get 99% of the touches right? I like Collins and think he is the "toughest" runner on the team even more so than Carson but he is not on Carson or Penny's level "right now" who know though as he might just explode next year, I believe him capable of doing something like that.

 

[FirebreathingMonkey]

Report: Russell Wilson still wants Antonio Brown in Seattle

The question of whether and to what extent the Seahawks will listen to quarterback Russell Wilson when it comes to personnel matters is about to be put to the test. Last week, long-time NFL insider and Seattle resident John Clayton said on 93.7 The Fan in Pittsburgh that Wilson is still lobbying...

www.yahoo.com

 

[returnofjakedog]

Good synopsis of FA for the Seahawks thus far.

Grading the Seahawks first week of free agency

Nobody is equipped to grade the Seahawks on anything they do, but nobody is equipped to stop us from doing it, either. It’s a standoff that can only end in one way: you reading this far, then...

www.fieldgulls.com

 

[returnofjakedog]

Carlos Dunlap is still out there, and quite a few teams have already filled DE needs. I'm still hoping the team can clear up enough cap to make a run at bringing him back in.

 

[Mariners_44]

You do know that Carson and Penny will get 99% of the touches right? I like Collins and think he is the "toughest" runner on the team even more so than Carson but he is not on Carson or Penny's level "right now" who know though as he might just explode next year, I believe him capable of doing something like that.

Yeah you're right, Penny has been non existent so I spaced his availability.

That said, I like having another bruiser like Collins rather than Hyde. I wish Collins would have gotten more last year cause when he did he looked great.

 

[Screamin12th]

Carlos Dunlap is still out there, and quite a few teams have already filled DE needs. I'm still hoping the team can clear up enough cap to make a run at bringing him back in.

Yeah I would like to hear how the restructuring of Wilson's contract is going, That could help us a ton.

 

[seattlefan75]

I think as far as Wilson wanting Brown when he already has 2 Pro Bowl receivers I would say he needs to give a little and restructure his contract to make that happen. Don't just run your mouth complaining about management go and restructure your contract if you specifically want something that revolves around you.