2021-2022 Mariners offseason/free agency thread

[NWinAZ]

I don’t disagree necessarily but I am still holding out hope they can get a 2B and have Frazier play CF or get a CF. It isn’t a knock on Suzuki and I could be speaking way out my ass but it just seems they have more pressing needs especially since one of the goals I thought was to get Kelenic out of playing CF.

If Frazier plays CF for them, this offseason would be an epic failure.

 

[SeattleCoug]

I don’t disagree necessarily but I am still holding out hope they can get a 2B and have Frazier play CF or get a CF. It isn’t a knock on Suzuki and I could be speaking way out my ass but it just seems they have more pressing needs especially since one of the goals I thought was to get Kelenic out of playing CF.

I think the only way Fraziers sees a lot of time in CF is if they bring in 2 more INFs. Unless you are wanting Toro for one of those spots or have Moore in the lineup a bunch

 

[SeattleCoug]

With Story or essentially any hitter who plays at TMobile they just have to hit the ball hard in the gaps. For some unknown reason when a FA comes to Seattle he tries to hit HR’s. That was Cirillo’s big issue and that Angels 1B Seattle got but his name escapes me.

lol either Speizo or Kotchman. both sucked the same.
Idk I think I like Story more then most plus his defense is very good which I think means something

 

[ulmax]

assuming williamson..kerby...hanhock and stoubt...are after...gilbert..at 2028...

robbie ray.......fr agent...2027
flexxen...fr agent..2026
Contract Notes:

• 2023 Club Option converts to an $8M player option with
  150 IP in 2022 or 300 IP across 2021-2022
  or
  35 games finished in 2022 or 65 in 2021-22
• Trade Assignment Bonus: $250,000
• Incentives: $1M

Marco Gonzales....fr agent 2026​

gilbert..fr agent..2028.

justin dunn...fr agent...2026

for the mariners not to need flexen next year...2 things have to happen....gilbert...starts pitching under 4...which i think he will...but..kerby or hancock...need to be ready...as well....or stoubt...
while...we are...trying to build in...williamson...but..i think..it will be no prob...for 1 or 2 years...at least....and flexen..can gain his reputation..in that time.....to add..to what he has already.....reputaion...gets ya paid...the really....big bucks...

and seattle may be ready...for flexen to do that...by..2024...but who know.s..it is about gitting...paid...for players....its there job...ya know...
and/or trade....would be trade....freeagent..would be draft pick..

next years ..mariners free agents....

Ken Giles	RP	31.3	R	R	SEA	$9,500,000
Chris Flexen	SP	27.6	R	R	SEA	$4,000,000
Mitch Haniger	RF	32.9	R	R	SEA	$8,500,000
Adam Frazier

 

[ulmax]

mariners need to save enough..for next year....to pay haniger....and frazier..and keep.the ball..team together..that would be..2023..++
6 years..for both...plus signing boneses.....they are 2 of seattles ...mains...stars..ya i know...fraizier has not played a game yet..
but i know..what..they are gitting...and so do you....and they are going to need it next year as well..and for a few years to ..come..

six sounds right...maybe more ...for haniger..

this is what frazier ..is..a DH...2B..utility.....that..is what..he is.....cuz...it is...

it works for seattle...excellent...

 

[ulmax]

lol either Speizo or Kotchman. both sucked the same.
Idk I think I like Story more then most plus his defense is very good which I think means something

miranda...and a couple CF guys on here...

PLAYER	TEAM	G	AB	R	H	2B	3B	HR	RBI	BB	SO	SB	CS	AVG	OBP	SLG	OPS
1 JuanYepez 1B	MEM	92	304	56	88	25	0	22	63	42	69	1	3	.289	.382	.589	.971
2 JoseMiranda 3B	STP	80	341	61	117	24	0	17	56	25	49	0	2	.343	.397	.563	.960
3 JohanCamargo 1B	GWN	104	386	70	126	24	4	19	67	47	72	0	1	.326	.401	.557	.958
4 KhalilLee RF	SYR	102	292	67	80	20	2	14	37	71	115	8	10	.274	.451	.500	.951
5 KevinSmith SS	BUF	94	355	65	101	27	4	21	69	46	97	18	3	.285	.370	.561	.931
6 AderlinRodriguez 1B	TOL	116	434	67	126	26	3	29	94	42	127	1	1	.290	.362	.565	.927
7 JoshLowe CF	DUR	111	402	76	117	28	2	22	78	61	123	26	0	.291	.381	.535	.916
8 TylerWhite 1B	BUF	105	353	54	103	26	0	13	65	80	73	2	2	.292	.424	.476	.900
9 RenatoNunez 1B	NAS	95	332	66	89	16	2	21	68	37	93	1	0	.268	.360	.518	.878
10 DaltonKelly 1B	DUR	110	377	69	92	20	0	27	74	60	129	17	3	.244	.350	.512	.862
11 RyanMcBroom DH	OMA	115	433	78	113	14	2	32	88	47	109	3	1	.261	.337	.524	.861
12 JakeNoll 2B	ROC	118	437	60	131	28	3	17	69	29	74	4	1	.300	.346	.494	.840
13 MikieMahtook CF	CLT	106	367	60	92	18	1	26	62	31	102	8	2	.251	.318	.518	.836
13 DanielPalka RF	ROC	106	356	61	91	19	2	18	58	61	90	5	0	.256	.364	.472	.836
13 TrayceThompson CF	IOW	88	305	48	71	14	1	21	63	45	116	3	1	.233	.344	.492	.836
16 MarkContreras RF	STP	95	343	62	85	26	2	18	63	34	117	12	5	.248	.335	.493	.828
17 JimmyKerrigan RF	STP	107	354	59	93	16	2	19	56	34	135	10	2	.263	.334	.480	.814
18 DrewMaggi SS	STP	95	318	59	80	13	2	16	50	40	114	12	5	.252	.354	.456	.810
19 ChristianBethancourt C	IND	92	331	46	93	18	1	14	60	28	73	4	1	.281	.339	.468	.807
20 GabrielArias SS	COL	115	436	64	124	29	3	13	55	39	110	5	1	.284	.348	.454	.802
21 KyleIsbel CF	OMA	105	394	62	106	18	3	15	55					269	357	444	801

 

[ulmax]

PLAYER AAA guys..some are..ready..maybe	TEAM if seattle trades for one	G	AB it should be a AAA guy..or rule 5..guy	R	H	2B	3B	HR	RBI	BB	SO	SB	CS	AVG	OBP	SLG	OPS
1 JoshLowe CF	DUR	111	402	76	117	28	2	22	78	61	123	26	0	.291	.381	.535	.916
2 KyleIsbel CF	OMA	105	394	62	106	18	3	15	55	45	91	22	5	.269	.357	.444	.801
3 BrianMiller CF	JAX	113	396	53	106	16	3	2	34	34	88	36	8	.268	.326	.338	.664
4 CristianPache CF	GWN	89	321	50	85	15	0	11	44	30	97	9	7	.265	.330	.414	.744
5 TJFriedl CF	LOU	113	386	59	102	15	5	12	36	44	65	13	7	.264	.357	.422	.779
6 IanMiller CF	IOW	106	368	38	96	14	4	3	33	37	75	20	1	.261	.334	.345	.679
7 MikieMahtook CF	CLT	106	367	60	92	18	1	26	62	31	102	8	2	.251	.318	.518	.836
8 MickeyMoniak CF	LHV	99	365	42	87	15	8	15	65	31	101	5	2	.238	.299	.447	.746
9 TrayceThompson CF	IOW	88	305	48	71	14	1	21	63	45	116	3	1	.233	.344	.492	.836
10 LoganWarmoth CF	BUF	107	342	61	78	15	1	9	41	56	137	17	5	.228	.350	.357	.707
11 EstevanFlorial CF	SWB	78	312	65	68	17	1	13	41	42	112	13	7	.218	.315	.404

 

[ulmax]

that was AAA east...this is west...

PLAYER	TEAM	G	AB	R	H	2B	3B	HR	RBI	BB	SO	SB	CS	AVG	OBP	SLG	OPS
1 JoseSiri CF	SLS	94	362	70	115	29	4	16	72	26	122	24	3	.318	.369	.552	.921
2 BryceJohnson CF	SAC	100	353	65	101	15	5	9	44	48	108	30	4	.286	.377	.433	.810
3 LuisBarrera CF	LV	96	341	53	94	16	6	4	37	39	67	10	2	.276	.348	.393	.741
4 WyntonBernard CF	ABQ	100	319	57	81	12	6	7	30	26	76	23	2	.254	.319	.395	.714
5 RonnieDawson CF	SLS	94	353	59	88	21	1	7	43	46	84	15	8	.249	.341	.374	.715
6 LeodyTaveras CF	RR	87	322	57	79	19	2	17	55	49	95	13	5	.245	.343	.475	.818
7 JakeGatewood CF	SL	116	450	60	102	22	2	28	84	29	170	6	2	.227	.281	.471	.752

To qualify, a player must have 2.8 plate appearances per team game played.

 

[ulmax]

Jose Siri #15​

• CF
• B/T: R/R
• 6' 2"/175
• Age: 26

and..

Josh Lowe #53​

Tampa Bay Rays

• CF
• B/T: L/R
• 6' 4"/205
• Age: 24

isabel..is interesting...

• Kyle Grant Isbel
• Status: Active
• Born: 3/03/1997 in Fontana, CA
• Draft: 2018, Kansas City Royals, Round: 3, Overall Pick: 94
• College: Nevada-Las Vegas
• MLB Debut: 4/01/2021

every one has been keeping an eye on him for years..t he is still only 23...yo..

CristianPache CF	GWN	89	321	50	85	15	0	11	44	30	97	9	7	.265	.330	.414	.744

Cristian Pache #25​

Atlanta Braves

• CF
• B/T: R/R
• 6' 2"/215
• Age: 23

are prob the best ones...some of the other guys are free agents...ya might give a chance.....but look at rule 5 guys...andAA

 

[ulmax]

seems to be the top...rule 5 guy...whocould fit...​

Miles Mastrobuoni | Age: 26 | SS/OF | L/R | Tampa Bay Rays​

A regular at big league camp during Spring Training, Mastrobuoni’s versatility may finally be finding him a Major League opportunity. Known for playing all over the diamond, the Nevada product showed promise at the upper levels of the minors in 2021. In 382 at-bats, Mastrobuoni produced a .802 OPS, but was left off the roster due to a flurry of Rule-5 eligible players for Tampa Bay.


what is not to like...for the mariners...he fits what they want...and hit 300...at AAA.

2021	MTG	SOU	AA	55	221	34	66	99	14	2	5	31	27	1	43	6	3	.299	.373	.448	.821	0.98
2021	DUR	INT	AAA	51	161	25	47	63	10	3	0	14	24	0	48	2	4	.292	.384	.391	.775	2.14

i dont know..if he CFs...but if he he does...mariners will...fall...in ..love....lolololol...or just trade...don walton for him..

 

[ulmax]

even if he doesnot Cf...mariners could find a other CF...else wnere...and have an other utility guy..

 

[ulmax]

Samad Taylor | Age: 23 | 2B/OF | R/R | Toronto Blue Jays​

With a breakout season at Double-A, Taylor may have propelled himself to a top selection in the Rule-5 Draft. The California native showed an uptick in power last season, where he slugged 16 bombs. Taylor produced an impressive .294/.385/.503 slash through 374 plate appearances. Maybe the most valuable attribute for Taylor is the ability to play all around the diamond. The 2016 10th round selection also stole 30 bases, expanding his value to a bench utility player with speed.

eiter of these guys could do for the mariners....

but haggerty....can..play...CF...so do not...forget that..he is at AAA.,tacoma..

 

[ulmax]

Sam Haggerty #0​

Tacoma Rainiers
Triple-A Affiliate

• LF
• B/T: S/R
• 5' 11"/175
• Age: 27

SummaryStatsAwards

• Samuel Onofrio Haggerty
• Status: Active
• Born: 5/26/1994 in Phoenix, AZ
• Draft: 2015, Cleveland Indians, Round: 24, Overall Pick: 724
• College: New Mexico
• MLB Debut: 9/04/2019

i would get sam on there....any way i could.....till..an opertunity..for a CFer..came along....and by the time ..they do that...sam may forget how to play.....2B....yeah..prob not....lolololo

 

[ulmax]

WWhhhaaaaatt...noooo...not that haggerty..

 

[ulmax]

yeeeeeeesss that haggerty..................

 

[ulmax]

 

[ulmax]

does not have a trade...value...but he will .do for the mariners.....for now​

​

Skye Bolt #49​

Oakland Athletics

• CF
• B/T: S/R
• 6' 2"/180
• Age: 28

 

[wazzu31]

lol either Speizo or Kotchman. both sucked the same.
Idk I think I like Story more then most plus his defense is very good which I think means something

But can he play 3B I guess would be my question, or maybe Jerry can get both he and Bryant and he can transition to 2B. I won’t pretend to have a scouting report on Story but the few times I have seen him he seems to drive the ball to the gaps which is ideal to play in Seattle, Oakland and Houston for 40% of your games.

 

[wazzu31]

I think the only way Fraziers sees a lot of time in CF is if they bring in 2 more INFs. Unless you are wanting Toro for one of those spots or have Moore in the lineup a bunch

Moore is a guy Jerry needs to trade. As a fan I don’t want Toro as an everyday starter which means he this years Dylan Moore. They have the budget for Bryant and Story which is my ideal scenario. I don’t mean to be negative on a dude I’ve never seen, just issue is it seems everyone is saying he can’t play CF.

 

[wazzu31]

If Frazier plays CF for them, this offseason would be an epic failure.

Not if they fill 3B and 2B which is my scenario though. Ideally they get Bryant and Story and if Frazier has to play CF until JRod gets called up then he can move into the super utility guy.