2021-2022 Mariners offseason/free agency thread

[ulmax]

i can go with what joe says..on.Max Scherzer 31..and he was the guy i thought of 1st...but if he signs with dodgers...then i have to go with ..
Noah Syndergaard 34........

crunch..coming........in 40 man next year....

yeah..ilike kerr.......maybe bull..pen...........well..if Wyatt Mills 40..will be rule 5..and.Aaron Fletcher 41..some guys will be traded

yeah..ya ..dfa who you have to....

 

[ulmax]

maybe julio up( 40 man) next year...??..sure..i like that one..but ya still need a LH hitter...somehow..

rotation....??
Max Scherzer 31
James Paxton 44/Yusei Kikuchi 18 can go with pax..when he is ready
Chris Flexen 77
Marco Gonzales 7
Logan Gilbert 36
Justin Dunn

this is an ok rotation

 

[ulmax]

with williamson .....comming..im good with it.but he.will prob take ..paxes spot..or after.......gilbert..to start..maybe by the end of the year,,..next year

anyway..the podcast gives some clarity....

need a couple ss..one at modesto..one at tacoma.........hopefully in trades.......

 

[ulmax]

like..
Michael Toglia 55...1B..switch/L...AA rockies
Seth Beer...............1B...arizona...MLB/AAA

i dont know on ss...right now.........

but that is what would be at the top of my list.............

what i like about arkansas is

Jack Larsen 21........CF

Zach DeLoach 32....LF
Cade Marlowe 10...RF...who is at tacoma right now..at least on the roster..but at Arizona fall learue
but they dont loose that much..when julio..goes up..they are still ..a good outfield......

then aqua sox will be stacked..as well............lololololol

 

[ulmax]

let go
Tyler Anderson 31
Sean Doolittl

Jake Bauers 5.. let to tacoma

Kyle Seager 15
Joe Smith 43

Ryan Weber 53...let to tacoma

Sam Haggerty 0 IL-60
trade.....
Wyatt Mills 40
Justus Sheffield 33
Dylan Moore 25
Aaron Fletcher 41
juan Then 43.............keep dunn.....trade then....no more time
Nick Margevicius 52
#14,Shed Long Jr.
that is 14 guys...cutting deep........

40--14=_===26
plus
at ,,tacoma..these guys could be put on the 40 man..........maybe
Moises Gomez 30
Ray Kerr 45......................L/L
Ian McKinney 19,,,,,,,,,,,,,L?L
Darin Gillies 15
Matthew Festa 54
Nick Duron 36
Roenis Elías............L/L
im not sure so t will put 30 to 33...and maybe 8..spots left
starting pitcher...free agent...
2B.......free agent====35
plus
Steven Moyers 20..,36
so..that is maybe ok,,,to build a bench...4 spots




tacoma
catchers
Luis Torrens 22...........40 man
José Godoy 78.............40man
Brian O'Keefe 9.............NO

Evan White 12//1B...............40 mam
Jake Bauers 5.. let to tacoma..............OF/1B...L/Lnot many teams want him...should do well at tacoma...to make another try...
Marcus Wilson..............CF........................40man
Taylor Trammell 20....................CF/LF......40man

Julio Rodríguez 41

R/R

6' 3"

180

12/29/2000

Active

No

we will put walton at 2B...for now
Donovan Walton 8,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,2B,,,L/L...........40 man
Kevin Padlo 30,,,,,,,,,3B....................................40 man
need SS...............................................................................

 

[ulmax]

PHILLIES

Brad Miller​

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2ND BASEAge:31-29dExp:7.004 YearsBat/Throw:Left/Right
Drafted:Round 2 (#62 overall), 2011College:ClemsonAgent(s):(ISE Baseball)
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inf/of...left handed bat..20 hrs..227 ave

2021

PHI

140

79

331

53

75

9

3

20

49

45

3

112

.227

.321

.453

.774

0.37

 

[ulmax]

GeraldoPerdomo SS	RNO	3	12	1	5	0	0	0	3	2	1	0	1	.417	.500	.417	.917

DonovanWalton SS	TAC	69	283	50	86	20	1	13	60	35	36	1	3	.304	.395

this is hood with 13 HRS..............304 ave

OneilCruz SS	IND	6	21	11	11	1	0	5	7	8	5	1	0	.524	.655	1.286	1.941

at 6-7..what is not to like...put him in CF or ss...at AAA

Oneil Cruz #61​

Pittsburgh Pirates

• SS
• B/T: L/R
• 6' 7"/210
• Age: 23

SummaryStatsNewsAwards

• Oneil Cruz
• Status: Active
• Born: 10/04/1998 in Nizao, Dominican Republic
• MLB Debut: 10/02/2021
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[ulmax]

Hoy Park #68​

Pittsburgh Pirates

• 2B
• B/T: L/R
• 6' 1"/175
• Age: 25

SummaryStatsNewsAwards

• Hoy Jun Park
• Status: Active
• Born: 4/07/1996 in Seoul, South Korea
• MLB Debut: 7/16/2021

ended..my best rookee..in fantasy...and i had 3 or 4 good,,ones..prob a good bench guy...like moore but can hit...........

 

[ulmax]

ATHLETICS

Yan Gomes​

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CATCHERAge:34-29dExp:8.083 YearsBat/Throw:Right/Right
Drafted:Round 10 (#310 overall), 2009College:TennesseeAgent(s):(Jet Sports Management)
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Current Contract​

• Free Agent: 2022
• Avg. Salary: $5,000,000
• MLB Rank: 218
• C Rank: 11
• catcher rank of MLB..#11..is good enough......

BASE CALCULATED VALUE​

After adjusting the above contracts as if signed at Gomes's current age (34), a linear regression is performed, providing us with the following initial value.

LENGTH	VALUE	AVG. SALARY
3	$20,430,000	$6,810,000

• 
  STATISTICAL COMPARISONS​

  Now we'll compare our variables and Gomes statistically over the two seasons prior to their signing. In this case we're analyzing: Games Played %, Hits, Runs Batted In, Strikeouts, Home Runs, On-base Plus Slugging , WAR
  

  AVERAGE PRIME % CHANGE	14.06%
  MEDIAN PRIME % CHANGE	11.90%
  % CHANGE	1.45%	9.52%	15.22%	11.90%	16.67%	4.86%	38.79%
  AVERAGE	57.78	0.84	0.46	0.84	0.12	0.72	2.14
  PLAYER	GP%	H/GM	RBI/GM	SO/GM	HR/GM	OPS	WAR
  James McCann2019-2020, NYM	67.87	0.99	0.5	1.11	0.17	0.808	4.95
  Travis d'Arnaud2018-2019, ATL	33.02	0.85	0.67	0.84	0.16	0.741	0.96
  Tucker Barnhart2015-2016, CIN	60.8	0.81	0.35	0.59	0.05	0.690	0.8
  Martin Maldonado2018-2019, HOU	69.44	0.69	0.32	0.82	0.09	0.648	1.86
  Yan Gomes2020-2021	58.62	0.92	0.53	0.74	0.14	0.755	2.97

  
  

  YAN GOMES'S CALCULATED MARKET VALUE​

  After applying our Prime % figures into our base calculated value, we're given two values. The average of these values becomes our current calculated market value.
  

  TERMS	AVG. SALARY
  2 years, $15,387,778	$7,693,889

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TRANSACTIONS​

JUL 30 2021Traded to Oakland (OAK) from Washington (WSH) with Josh Harrison for Drew Millas, Seth Shuman and Richard Guasch
JUL 30 2021
NOV 28 2019Signed a 2 year $10 million contract with Washington (WSH)
NOV 2 2019Washington (WSH) declined a $9 million option for 2020
NOV 30 2018Traded to Washington (WSH) from Cleveland (CLE) for Daniel Johnson, Jefry Rodriguez and Andruw Monasterio|27977




https://www.spotrac.com/research/nba/projecting-the-top-2022-mlb-free-agents-1302/

 

[ulmax]

Noah Syndergaard

SP

29.1

L

R

NYM

$9,700,000

$29,258,183

or

Max Scherzer

SP

37.2

R

R

LAD

$34,603,480

$35,568,665

max can last 3 or 4 years easy.........if he....wants to..my guesstimation..for todays..players..is 45..where..20 years ago..it was 40...but max can last 3,4,5..
still..it is all good.......
i only started going ...down..at 45..i did not get there till i was 55...but when you are on .....MT.everest(hand speed)..it is a looong waaay down...buddy..........lolololol...i always say that.......but from my point of view.......its a true story.........lololol

2B/SS mariners need a 2B..and a back up ss /2B..so ..

Marcus Semien

SS

31.1

R

R

TOR

$18,000,000

$19,554,245

is the guy that..the mariners.....really need..2b/SS..middle of order guy......an older...team leader......no he is not seager..on that..he does not have to be....his point of view will help...as well......

Yan Gomes

C

34.2

R

R

OAK

$6,000,000

$7,693,889

those are my 3 ..prime target ..free agents with one backup of snydergaard..but he is not a backup..lol...anyway..those are the free agents i think they need. right now.
then trade for the bench..guys......

on my list..for bench..guys
Cal Raleigh 29....lol...of coarse

Hoy Park #68..inf/of..L/L​

Seth Beer 28....L/L.......1B/RF

so far..
i have
Kyle Lewis 1...at DH...for now..
if they can get Jake Bauers 5.through..to tacoma...that would be good...at least till after spring..and then for the rest of the year..for 2022......

 

[ulmax]

a fantasy trade..that i over do it on ..AAA pitchers..on purpose..for a bit of comp...on pitching........for a team..that needs it.....on magill and weber..
if any team can do something with..those 2..maybe it is pittsburgh...

i really wanted glenn...in the draft..so i get him ..here....2B/3B

Pirates​

Name	Age	Level	P1	P2	Availablility	Years	AFV	Salary	Surplus	Low	Median	High
Liberato		Minors	OF						0.7	0.5	0.7	0.9
Magill	31	Majors	RHRP		Medium	3.0	-1.2	0	0	0	0	0
Moore	28	Majors	3B	OF	High	3.0	3.6	2.1	1.5	1.2	1.5	1.8
Rinehart		Minors	RHP						0.4	0.2	0.4	0.6
Weber	30	Majors	RHRP		High	2.5	0.4	0.8	-0.4	0	0	0

Total Value: 2.60​

Mariners​

Name	Age	Level	P1	P2	Availablility	Years	AFV	Salary	Surplus	Low	Median	High
Glenn		Minors	2B						1.3	1	1.3	1.6
Park	25	Majors	2B	SS	Medium	6.0	1.9	0.6	1.3	1	1.3	1.6

 

[ulmax]

even better...and the pirates..could really use these guys..just to start with.........

Pirates​

Name	Age	Level	P1	P2	Availablility	Years	AFV	Salary	Surplus	Low	Median	High
Long	25	Majors	2B		Medium	4.0	-2.3	0.6	-2.9	0	0	0
Margevicius	25	Majors	SP		Medium	4.0	2.3	1.4	0.9	0.6	0.9	1.2
McCaughan	25	Minors	RHRP		Medium	6.0	1.4	0.6	0.8	0.5	0.8	1.1
Mills	26	Majors	RHRP		Medium	6.0	1.2	0.6	0.6	0.3	0.6	0.9
Moore	28	Majors	3B	OF	High	3.0	3.6	2.1	1.5	1.2	1.5	1.8
Then		Minors	RHP						4.9	3.9	4.9	5.9

Total Value: 8.70​

Mariners​

Name	Age	Level	P1	P2	Availablility	Years	AFV	Salary	Surplus	Low	Median	High
Escotto		Minors	SS						6	4.8	6	7.2
Fellows		Minors	RHP						0.1	0	0.1	0.2
Glenn		Minors	2B						1.3	1	1.3	1.6
Park	25	Majors	2B	SS	Medium	6.0	1.9	0.6	1.3	1	1.3	1.6

Total Value: 8.70​

escotto..is a modesto..lvl..SS...good..for now...he could end up..at 2B/3b...though.......but no matter...he will do till...the mariners draft..some SS.s

 

[seahawksfan234]

I don't think White should have any impact on anything Mariners in 2022. He is Tacoma for the year unless he goes all Mr. AAA on us. I have said for many of years, too many good players is never a problem.

Good point.

I think I just have such an all in mentality this offseason that I'm willing to move just about anyone of value in the farm system who isn't either an elite prospect or someone who could conceivably be a contributor in 2022 or 2023.

One thing that I don't think either of us has brought up is the fact that I believe with Dipoto's hubris, I can't see him admitting he made a mistake rushing White up and giving him a multi-year MLB contract. Given that fact I'd actually be surprised to see him moved this offseason. Always fun to run through hypotheticals though.

 

[seahawksfan234]

I get that thinking of the deal but it is a little different in signing an injured guy or trading a backup catcher and scrub bullpen arms for an injured pitcher (obviously got France too) versus trading a guy who is a top 6 prospect in your organization

Not a rhetorical question, but would you still consider Evan White a top 6 prospect in the organization? He'll be 26 next year and in the majors has been abysmal at the plate. His defense is as advertised - if not better - but man you can't really have had much of a worse start than he has had. Perhaps I've given up on him too quickly, but he would need to hit at least 100 points higher to even justify being a starter at this point. I know he was rushed through our minor leagues and that can play a factor, but what he has shown at the major league level hasn't been promising.

 

[NWinAZ]

Good point.

I think I just have such an all in mentality this offseason that I'm willing to move just about anyone of value in the farm system who isn't either an elite prospect or someone who could conceivably be a contributor in 2022 or 2023.

One thing that I don't think either of us has brought up is the fact that I believe with Dipoto's hubris, I can't see him admitting he made a mistake rushing White up and giving him a multi-year MLB contract. Given that fact I'd actually be surprised to see him moved this offseason. Always fun to run through hypotheticals though.

I don't try and guess any Dipoto moves because he never makes sense to me...ever. For me, the worst thing we can do now is start trading top prospects to improve for the short term after spending the last 3 years doing the opposite. Keep the kids and add with free agency. If there are guys you (Mariners management) don't think are part of the future like Yanks and Rays do well, then trade them for players you have control over for at least 3 plus years. Guys like Trammell and Sheffield are two that come to mind. But if you go this route, you better be really smart at player evaluations and not sure that is a Dipoto strength. I still think we have the wrong guy running the team, but he made baseball fun in Seattle so that is all it takes to get you extended here.

 

[ulmax]

an out of this world trade...marte for marte..plus beer plus perdomo..who s an AA.short stop....wow

GeraldoPerdomo SS	AMA	82	286	51	66	8	5	6	32	47	81	8	5	.231	.351	.357	.708

Ketel Marte​

25	ARI	NL	144	628	569	97	187	36	9	32	92	10	2	53	86	.329	.389	.592	.981	149	337	7	4	0	2	2	846/H	AS,MVP-4
2020	26	ARI	NL	45	195	181	19	52	14	1	2	17	1	0	7	21	.287	.323	.409	.732	97	74	2	4	0	3	0	*4/86D
2021	27	ARI	NL	9

seth beer...and castilanos...omg.......

Name	Age	Level	P1	P2	Availablility	Years	AFV	Salary	Surplus	Low	Median	High
Marte		Minors	SS						58.3	46.6	58.3	70
Murphy	30	Majors	C		High	2.0	5.1	3.5	1.6	1.2	1.6	2
Phillips		Minors	RHP						2.6	2.1	2.6	3.1
Sheffield	25	Majors	SP	LHRP	Medium	4.0	13.0	6.8	6.2	5	6.2	7.4

Total Value: 68.70​

Mariners​

Name	Age	Level	P1	P2	Availablility	Years	AFV	Salary	Surplus	Low	Median	High
Beer		Minors	1B						4.8	3.8	4.8	5.8
Castillo		Minors	RHP						0.5	0.3	0.5	0.7
Holton		Minors	LHP						0.3	0.2	0.3	0.4
Marte	27	Majors	2B	OF	Low	3.0	63.7	26.4	37.3	29.8	37.3	44.8
Nelson		Minors	RHP						12.5	10	12.5	15
Perdomo	21	Majors	SS		Low	6.0	24.4	11.1	13.3	10.6	13.3	16

omg...lol..with ketel marte...my bench..is finnished...all i need is a SS at aqua sox...and..at tavcoma..lololol..in fantasy..

 

[ulmax]

I don't try and guess any Dipoto moves because he never makes sense to me...ever. For me, the worst thing we can do now is start trading top prospects to improve for the short term after spending the last 3 years doing the opposite. Keep the kids and add with free agency. If there are guys you (Mariners management) don't think are part of the future like Yanks and Rays do well, then trade them for players you have control over for at least 3 plus years. Guys like Trammell and Sheffield are two that come to mind. But if you go this route, you better be really smart at player evaluations and not sure that is a Dipoto strength. I still think we have the wrong guy running the team, but he made baseball fun in Seattle so that is all it takes to get you extended here.

agreed for the most part....cuz i would never expect...arizona to trade marte......or the mariners to trade marte either............so i was just having fun.....lol

or dodgers.....

 

[ulmax]

or dodgers.....or yeankees ..would do..for arizona to..trade marte to.......after they traded..the other marte..to the mariners...then they would get the same kind of deal
but it would prob end there,................lol

then arizona ..would be king...of the lopsided...equal trade.......lol..and they would still come out in the end.......

 

[NWinAZ]

Finally stepping up like they should.

 

[NWinAZ]

Finally stepping up like they should.