2021-2022 Mariners offseason/free agency thread

[TheLonestarDUCK]

How big is that AL Championship trophy? LOL. I am not anti-Rangers just anti-AFraud. Nolan Ryan is still one of my Top 5 All-Time Players.

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[wazzu31]

So how do you feel about the Ray deal which is for about $5M more?

I feel much more comfortable with him, I may be wrong but I am much more comfortable plus it is essentially a 3 year deal. Maybe baseball contracts now are going to be like NFL deals where they all report the big splashy number.

 

[wazzu31]

My #1 want acquired!

I didn’t think he was a legitimate possibility, so I will tip my hat to Jerry. I for sure thought he would sign 3 or 4 fielders first then use the rest of the budget on a pitcher.

 

[NWinAZ]

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Oh ya okay. I saw those on eBay the other day. They have come way down on their price.

 

[TheLonestarDUCK]

Oh ya okay. I saw those on eBay the other day. They have come way down on their price.

What does yours look like?

 

[NWinAZ]

What does yours look like?

We have just as many participation trophies. If you ain't first, you're last. But thanks for playing. Best of luck.

 

[ulmax]

my draft guys i like so far

22

Dylan Beavers

OF

Cal

39

Zach Neto

SS

Campbell

Trey Faltine

SS

Texas

32

Ian (JR) Ritchie RHP Bainbridge Island Bainbridge Island, WA

In a deep prep pitching class, Ritchie stands out for a loud package of both pure stuff and control/command. The 2022 prep pitching class has more guys touching 97 at 17 years old than maybe any other class in history. But not all of them can find the strike zone with consistency. That is where Ritchie thrives. The fastball sits 92-95 on most days, up to 97. He has a firm, tight slider up into the mid-80s with late two-plane break that he also commands very well. He also built a deeper, high-70s curveball into his arsenal with distinct vertical movement and significant spin rates. Jordan Lawlar called his breaking ball the best pitch he saw all summer in 2021. Ritchie also features a changeup he's shown feel for with good arm-side fade that he deploys primarily against lefties. Finally, he's working to mix in a low-90s 2-seam fastball, deployed away from righty bats. Ritchie has an extremely quick arm with elite mechanics and lower half strength. He's a very good bet to start long-term, and has the potential to be the best prep arm to come out of Washington since Blake Snell or Tim Lincecum. not saying these will be the guys...but..they would prob do

im thinking they will need at least 2 ss..A CF.....and like..rosier...one later in the draft...so..2....3collage pitchers..2 hs..1 hs catcher

that is 10 guys..10more then they are done...with the draft

 

[ulmax]

what ddoes your hart tell you

 

[Podunkparte]

One strike away ya that sucked. Back to back AL Championships was fun. You can relate to that can’t ya?

All your favorite teams are trash.

 

[ulmax]

i could go..all...short stops...and CFers....pitchers and catchers...in the draft...and hardly ever need....anything...else,,,

for example

Niko Goodrum #28....started a.......ss​

he will prob end up..a 3B/1B...he has gottin a bit slower...over 5 years...idk..on the CF..but he could prob still do RF or LF

 

[ulmax]

REDS

Brandon Finnegan​

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STARTING PITCHERAge:28-237dExp:2.15 YearsBat/Throw:Left/Left
Drafted:Round 1 (#17 overall), 2014College:Texas Christian
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  SEASON	TEAM	GP	GS	IP	H	R	ER	BB	K	HR	W	L	S	ERA	WHIP	WAR
  2018	CIN	5	5	20.2	27	20	17	15	14	5	0	3	0	7.40	2.032	-0.57
  2017	CIN	5	4	13.0	9	6	6	13	16	1	1	1	0	4.15	1.692	0.18
  2016	CIN	33	31	172.0	150	86	76	84	145	29	10	11	0	3.98	1.36	2.21
  2015	KC	20	4	48.0	37	19	19	21	45	8	5	2	0	3.56	1.208	0.24
  2014	KC	7	0	7.0	6	1	1	1	10	0	0	1	0	1.29	1	0.24
  Totals		70	44	260.2	229	132	119	134	230	43	16	18	0	4.11	1.393	2.30

if he is healthy...he is a good pitcher...im scratching my head....a bit cuz i dont know what is up with him

 

[TheLonestarDUCK]

All your favorite teams are trash.

Lol - Mariners probably worst franchise in all of sports. Longest playoff drought in all of sports. Huskies are a dumpster fire. Only beat Oregon twice in 17 years. Seahawks are about to fire coach and start rebuilding. Only one ring yet Niners have Five. Come again????

 

[ulmax]

Should the KC Royals try to salvage Brandon Finnegan?​

by Mike Gillespie5 days ago Follow @MikeGillespieJD

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Offseason signings of broken pitchers is something the KC Royals do. Two winters ago, they brought back Greg Holland, their former star closer, and also signed Trevor Rosenthal, KC manager Mike Matheny’s closer for a time in St. Louis, when both were once-premiere relievers beset more recently by injuries and ineffectiveness. And last winter, the club took a chance on Wade Davis.






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So well did Rosenthal and Holland work out that Rosenthal immediately became the Royals’ closer and a main trade deadline attraction—KC sent him to San Diego for Edward Olivares and Dylan Coleman—and Holland assumed his old closer role when Rosenthal departed. The Davis deal, though, all but failed because he couldn’t shake his injury bug and wasn’t consistently good when healthy.

Now, courtesy of the Cincinnati Reds, the Royals may have another reclamation project candidate.
Brandon Finnegan.
Yes, the very same Brandon Finnegan whose meteoric one-season rise from first round Kansas City draft pick to the World Series in 2014 made him a darling of KC fans hungry for new heroes. The Cincinnati organization recently released Finnegan, who hasn’t pitched in the majors since 2018.
The apparent end of his Cincinnati tenure isn’t surprising. Finnegan came to the Reds in mid-2015, their chief return in the trade deadline deal that sent Johnny Cueto to Kansas City and a World Series title. Cincinnati also received John Lamb and Cody Reed, but Finnegan was the team’s primary target.
And with good reason. The Royals made Finnegan their top draft pick just the year before, a season in which he helped Texas Christian University into the College World Series, signed with Kansas City, became a reliever, then pitched five times at High-A Wilmington and eight at Double-A Northwest Arkansas before the Royals decided his allowing only four runs in 27 innings justified rushing him to the big leagues.
Undaunted by hitting center stage so quickly, Finnegan posted a 1.29 ERA in seven games, made Kansas City’s postseason rosters, and worked five playoff games and two in the Series.
Despite his fast start, Kansas City assigned him to Northwest Arkansas to begin the 2015 campaign. A late April recall was the first of four round trips he’d make between Kauffman Stadium and the minors before the Cueto trade; Finnegan pitched well when with the Royals, going 3-0 with a 2.96 ERA in 14 relief appearances. Only a three-run, one-inning outing against Toronto in mid-July seriously tainted his record.
The Royals’ desire to land Cueto, however, outweighed their interest in keeping Finnegan.
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[Podunkparte]

Lol - Mariners probably worst franchise in all of sports. Longest playoff drought in all of sports. Huskies are a dumpster fire. Only beat Oregon twice in 17 years. Seahawks are about to fire coach and start rebuilding. Only one ring yet Niners have Five. Come again????

And yet... all of your favorite teams are trash.

 

[ulmax]

Probably not. Unlike Rosenthal, Holland and Davis, all of whom enjoyed sustained and meaningful success, Finnegan’s best moments remain confined to 2014, 2015 and 2016, seasons too remote to provide promise of him reclaiming bygone form.

For whatever reason or reasons, Finnegan long ago lost that which made him so good in college and the earliest stages of a now-soured professional career. Little in his performance since 2016 suggests he has much to offer any club, including the KC Royals.

Signing Finnegan is, of course, a low-risk proposition because he can’t reasonably demand, much less expect, a big contract. But last season’s minor league contraction left fewer spots for players of any position, and the Royals shouldn’t hand one of those spots to, or expend resources on, Finnegan when more promising pitchers need the work.



Finnegan’s 10 victories in 2016 were the second-best for last place Cincinnati, but he suffered from an excessive 4.4 BB/9. Shoulder issues nagged him throughout 2017 and limited him to four major league and three minor league starts.


A horrible start to 2018—he was 0-3 with a 7.40 ERA by May 6—triggered Finnegan’s demotion to Triple-A, where he spent the rest of the season and struggled to 2-10 with an ugly 7.05 ERA, by far the worst record of his professional career.

The lefthander spent 2019 in Double-A (1-0, 6.60) and last season in Triple-A (4-3, 5.53) battling his control. He walked 10 in 15 innings in 2019 and 36 in 55.1 in 2021. His major and minor league career BB/9s leave much to be desired: 4.63 in the bigs, 4.95 on the farm.


Finnegan’s 10 victories in 2016 were the second-best for last place Cincinnati, but he suffered from an excessive 4.4 BB/9. Shoulder issues nagged him throughout 2017 and limited him to four major league and three minor league starts.


A horrible start to 2018—he was 0-3 with a 7.40 ERA by May 6—triggered Finnegan’s demotion to Triple-A, where he spent the rest of the season and struggled to 2-10 with an ugly 7.05 ERA, by far the worst record of his professional career.

The lefthander spent 2019 in Double-A (1-0, 6.60) and last season in Triple-A (4-3, 5.53) battling his control. He walked 10 in 15 innings in 2019 and 36 in 55.1 in 2021. His major and minor league career BB/9s leave much to be desired: 4.63 in the bigs, 4.95 on the farm.

a nagging....shoulder issue...and loss of control...issues....basicly

 

[Podunkparte]

I'm pretty fired up over the Ray signing. I think the Frazier signing was good, but this one is big. Not only is he an absolute ace, but it shows that the front office is building on momentum after all.

Something the Ray signing does is stretches the rotation. How long have we said "Yeah, Marco is our #1, but he's no ace?" Well now Marco is where is supposed to be: a very good #3, and a great match up lefty after Ray (L) and Gilbert (R).

I believe we're at about $88M for the roster right now, which means there's still money to be spent. With the number of highly touted pitching prospects we have right now, I feel a big trade coming.

I know inter division trades are rare, but man, sending a few youngsters to Oakland, where they love cheap prospects, for Chapman and Manaea would immediately fill 2 huge places of need. What better guy to replace Seager's defense than Matt Chapman? And Sean Manaea has always been a stud, making a rotation of Ray/Gilbert/Gonzo/Manaea/Flexen pretty damned nasty!

I don't love that the division is going to be stacked with the Rangers also taking big swings, but it should make for a lot of fun baseball.

 

[ulmax]

32	Ian (JR) Ritchie RHP Bainbridge Island Bainbridge Island, W.............is 9th on the HS list.....means he could go around 21st..or a bit before

beavers at 20th on the collage list could go before the mariners 2nd pick..in the 2nd round...where they need to draft a ss....imo..only...lololool
they should try to pick up a 1st round ccb pick..if
at all possible

 

[ulmax]

2023free agents


Jose Ramirez......3B
Ketel Marte......,,CF/2B
Adam Frazier

Mitch Haniger

RF

32.9

R

R

SEA

Brandon Nimmo

CF

30.6

L

R

NYM

$6,000,000

Joey Gallo

RF

29.9

L

R

NYY

Chris Flexen

SP

27.3

R

R

SEA

Aaron Nola

SP

28.4

R

R

PHI

Luis Severino

SP

27.8

R

R

NYY

Ken Giles

RP

31.2

R

R

SEA

4mariners on this list
i dont see any catchers below 30 years old.....so i did not add any

 

[ulmax]

4mariners on this list
i dont see any catchers below 30 years old.....so i did not add any
any holes the mariners have,,they have to be thinking these guys or draft picks..collage 2 to 4 years away.........hs..and int...much...more

 

[ulmax]

catcher....baylor....mariners

Andy Thomas 17

L/R

6' 2"

210

06/17/1998

Active

No

'at aqua sox see him at everett..this year....at least...in the 1st 1/2