2020 NBA Offseason

[Shanemansj13]

I thought they would last year.

Many thought they would the last 2 years...if they can't do it now, they won't ever do it and again most thought the same last year at least. There is no definitives especially with all the competition and possibly a super super team in Brooklyn. They seem to be a great regular season team to this point...nothing else.

 

[GNG]

Many thought they would the last 2 years...if they can't do it now, they won't ever do it and again most thought the same last year at least. There is no definitives especially with all the competition and possibly a super super team in Brooklyn. They seem to be a great regular season team to this point...nothing else.

Maybe they do it this season.

 

[trojanfan12]

The team wouldn't have made these moves without discussing it with Giannis.

Discussing their moves with him, doesn't mean he discloses his plans. He can give them an opinion on whether or not he thinks he could or would want to play with them, without letting them know whether or not he'll be around to actually play with them.

 

[Gman]

Intriguing:

Report: Hayward, C's agree to extend player option deadline

Gordon Hayward and the Celtics apparently have business that they may not complete prior to Tuesday’s 5 p.m. ET deadline.

www.nbcsports.com

The Celtics and Hayward are "working to extend" the deadline for the veteran forward to accept or decline his $34.2 million player option for the 2020-21 season from Tuesday to Thursday at 5 p.m. ET, ESPN's Zach Lowe reported Tuesday afternoon.

...

Hayward's name has been floated in trade rumors involving the New York Knicks, Indiana Pacers and others, so it's possible he and the Celtics are working out the details of a sign-and-trade with another team.

By pushing Hayward's deadline to after the 2020 NBA Draft, the Celtics also would leave open the option of swinging a draft-night trade involving the veteran forward, or waiting for a team to select a player they covet before completing a deal.

 

[trojanfan12]

Opinions aren't wrong dickhead.

Yours is.

 

[GNG]

Your is.

 

[Heatles84]

Opinions aren't wrong dickhead.

You've achieved the impossible then.

 

[Heatles84]

I think KD's going to win out.

 

[Heatles84]

Discussing their moves with him, doesn't mean he discloses his plans. He can give them an opinion on whether or not he thinks he could or would want to play with them, without letting them know whether or not he'll be around to actually play with them.

Seriously. Do people not learn from history? How many times have we seen this movie?

 

[LambeauLegs]

What are the odds that Giannis is being forthcoming in his plans to management?

So you are assuming the Freak woke up this morning and checked his phone and was surprised what happened in the middle of the night and that it was all new news to him?

 

[DJ Fieri]

W

Yours is.

Bingo.

 

[LambeauLegs]

Bucks deliver on Giannis Antetokounmpo's demand with big-time trade for Jrue Holiday

If Giannis was leaning toward staying in Milwaukee, these big moves could seal it

www.cbssports.com

It's hard to overstate how perfect these moves are for Milwaukee. Bledsoe was a great defender, but so is Holiday, who has even better size and is a far superior offensive threat who slots perfectly as a secondary creator and credible shooter next to Giannis.

Holiday thrived with the Pelicans when he shifted from a traditional point guard role, becoming one of the more active off-ball movers in the league. That will work wonders with Khris Middleton doing the same as teams try to keep one eye on Giannis at all times. The dilemma of whether to double down on Giannis and leave shooters open, or stay attached to shooters and allow Giannis a lane to the rim, just got even tougher.

And that's before we factor in Bogdanovic, another lights-out shooter who averaged 15 points per game and shot over 37 percent from 3 last season. And it's not just the shooting percentage that impresses you. Bogdanovic has the kind of no-conscience shooting confidence that genuinely leverages defenses. His willingness to take, and his knack for making, clutch shots has long been a signature part of his game.

Last season, Bogdanovic attempted 32 3-pointers -- the same amount as James Harden -- in clutch time, which the NBA defines as games within five points with five minutes or fewer to play. But while Harden made just 25 percent of his clutch 3s, Bogdanovic made 37.5 percent of his, which was the third-best percentage in the league for anyone who attempted over 30 such shots, per NBA.com. With all the open looks this dude is going to get with all the attention Giannis draws, he's a legit 20-points-a-game threat.

Between Holiday, Middleton and Bogdanovic, here are three guys who can take and make big shots next to an MVP, and who can create their own looks, too. There is a world in which the Bucks can have three All-Stars and two All-NBA players. That is championship material.

Giannis remains a one-flaw player with his inability to shoot, and he can be a bit of a head-down driver who runs himself into trouble. These secondary creators and kick-out options are vital to his success, and by extension, Milwaukee's chances of competing late in the playoffs when one single flaw can derail your entire attack.

If these moves don't convince Giannis to stay, what will?

 

[Heatles84]

So you are assuming the Freak woke up this morning and checked his phone and was surprised what happened in the middle of the night and that it was all new news to him?

I'm not assuming shit. You asked what are the odds that the Bucks are doing these deals if Giannis isn't staying? You don't have shit until he has an extension in place. We've been through this dance before when a super start hits free agency and people assume one thing, when the opposite eventually happens. The Bucks are selling Giannis on making moves (why didn't you try to optimize the roster prior to this year?) in his contract year, this isn't surprising.

 

[Heatles84]

If these moves don't convince Giannis to stay, what will?

At some point, maybe he wants to go to a better franchise?

 

[Wamu]

NBA Rumors: Here Was Celtics' Trade Offer To Pelicans For Jrue Holiday - NESN.com

The Boston Celtics came up short in the Jrue Holiday sweepstakes, but we now know what they offered the New Orleans Pelicans.

nesn.com

Hayward and a 1st round pick for Holiday LOL

Why would the Celtics even consider that?

 

[Gman]

Why would the Celtics even consider that?

If Hayward asked to get out, then it's a reasonable option to explore.

That's if Hayward voiced such a thing... there has been speculation on that front, but nothing definite if I'm not mistaken.

 

[trojanfan12]

If these moves don't convince Giannis to stay, what will?

Here's the thing. Giannis still has a year on his contract and he hasn't demanded a trade. That's good news for the Bucks because it looks like he's willing to give them a fair chance.

But it doesn't mean that he's decided to stay or will make his decision anytime soon.

The most likely scenario is that he'll give it the season, see how things go and make his decision after the season.

 

[Wamu]

If Hayward asked to get out, then it's a reasonable option to explore.

That's if Hayward voiced such a thing... there has been speculation on that front, but nothing definite if I'm not mistaken.

Good point. Didn't think about Hayward possibly wanting out.

 

[GNG]

At some point, maybe he wants to go to a better franchise?

He is at a good franchise now.

 

[Heatles84]

He is at a good franchise now.

There are better