2019 Offseason Thread

[dtgold88]

Where did I ever imply that I was part of an NBA team?

That being said, Ive been a Heat STH for a very long time, which allows me from time to time the opportunity to have some interesting conversations.

Oh my....that's the point. You said you "don't personally know...." like if you didn't tell me this I would be under the impression you were with an NBA team.

 

[dtgold88]

I can’t help it if you’re uninformed on the topic.
Often players feel betrayed, and others use it as the excuse to ask out of their contracts.

And often guys just want to leave and they ask out. Guess what......this is allowed.

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

And often guys just want to leave and they ask out. Guess what......this is allowed.

I don’t have issue with it, if its behind closed doors, meaning we don’t know about it.
Example, AD privately goes to owner and says ‘Heads up, Im not signing extension and I plan to leave when I become a FA. I prefer LA. If you think you can work out a deal that you’re happy with, you might want to consider.


Then, he’s doing them a favor.


As far as the other, you either live your life honoring your word or not.
I do, Im guessing you dont.

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

Oh my....that's the point. You said you "don't personally know...." like if you didn't tell me this I would be under the impression you were with an NBA team.

Or, I just communicate in fact.
I can’t say I know, or guarantee, because I haven’t been in the situation.

 

[Bart]

This.

Any player should have the right to ask to be traded. However I think where I draw the line is when players ask to be traded to specific teams. If you want to remove yourself from your current situation, that's fine, but as a player under a contract you don't get to dictate where you are traded.

Additionally, there is a right and a wrong way to request a trade. A player should go to management quietly, while they try to figure out a situation that works. It decreases locker room tension and removes any distraction from the organization while they try to figure out something that works.

What's the difference if he asks to be traded to a specific team?

 

[lebron23james]

Actually, no, I don't act like that. The team is free to call the player's bluff and not deal him. What's he gonna do? sit out and not get paid?

Most players wont be a distraction on Kyrie's level.

The problem is the guaranteed money. Too many players use that to their advantage are anything but "professional" They would sit out, or fake an injury, cry like little bitches like shaqdaddy etc

JR smith is still getting paid and hasn't played in 2 years. I wouldn't trust these guys further than i could throw them...If i was an owner guaranteed contracts would be out based on how many players abuse the system.

 

[lebron23james]

What's the difference if he asks to be traded to a specific team?

Because they use the leverage to hurt the original team doing them a favor. If you don't want to be professional and uphold the contract you signed, here is a great idea...Don't sign the contract then. If you want out so badly it should be to any team that can return the most assets imho

Otherwise fulfill your contract like a man, and go where you want once the contract is up.

 

[Bart]

Because they use the leverage to hurt the original team doing them a favor. If you don't want to be professional and uphold the contract you signed, here is a great idea...Don't sign the contract then. If you want out so badly it should be to any team that can return the most assets imho

Otherwise fulfill your contract like a man, and go where you want once the contract is up.

I think the players should do what ever benefits them. Who cares if it effects the team their leaving, the team sure doesn't care about the players beyond a business relationship.

 

[CitySushi]

What's the difference if he asks to be traded to a specific team?

For me, I believe that while the player should be able to request a trade from his current situation, dictating where he goes limits the potential return for the team that he's being traded from. The organization shouldn't be penalized for the predicament.

Just feel like if you want out of a bad situation that's fine. But you're also a value asset and that can't just be magically waived away.

 

[Bart]

For me, I believe that while the player should be able to request a trade from his current situation, dictating where he goes limits the potential return for the team that he's being traded from. The organization shouldn't be penalized for the predicament.

Just feel like if you want out of a bad situation that's fine. But you're also a value asset and that can't just be magically waived away.

I don't care if the team is penalized, fuck 'em, they are in a business they have to deal with whatever arises. The player needs to look out for themselves, why should he go from a bad situation to a worse situation just to keep his employer happy. Would you do that IRL?

 

[lebron23james]

I don't care if the team is penalized, fuck 'em, they are in a business they have to deal with whatever arises. The player needs to look out for themselves, why should he go from a bad situation to a worse situation just to keep his employer happy. Would you do that IRL?

That is not how business works. The only reason this is a problem is because they gave the players too much power, but i am sure this will be addressed at the next collective bargaining agreement. It was unseen that the players would be doing this, and why the owners not giving them a lot of rope in the past has shown to be the correct call. The players would be working at 7/11 if it wasn't for the NBA, don't forget that

 

[CitySushi]

I don't care if the team is penalized, fuck 'em, they are in a business they have to deal with whatever arises. The player needs to look out for themselves, why should he go from a bad situation to a worse situation just to keep his employer happy. Would you do that IRL?

You're being paid really well so it's not as big of a difference to me. Right now IRL, no. But in fantasy land where I'm making 120M over the next 4 years...yeah that makes a slight difference.

 

[WiggyRuss]

I don't care if the team is penalized, fuck 'em, they are in a business they have to deal with whatever arises. The player needs to look out for themselves, why should he go from a bad situation to a worse situation just to keep his employer happy. Would you do that IRL?

if thats hte case they shouldnt have guaranteed contracts- you should be able to cut someones ass when they get hurt or decline.

I cant ever say i have seen a player volunteer to give money back because his skills went to shit or he blew his knee up

 

[bksballer89]

What's the difference if he asks to be traded to a specific team?

A LOT

 

[bksballer89]

Like this pick up @flyerhawk @Sparhawk @knowyourenemy

 

[cooljack]

I don't care if the team is penalized, fuck 'em, they are in a business they have to deal with whatever arises. The player needs to look out for themselves, why should he go from a bad situation to a worse situation just to keep his employer happy. Would you do that IRL?

Keep on posting man I like looking at that chick's face while I read all the BS.

 

[knowyourenemy]

Like this pick up @flyerhawk @Sparhawk @knowyourenemy

Kind of a “meh” move for me. I like his scoring ability. Could come in handy. Not sure he fits defensively at all but maybe the rest of the team will be good enough to make up for it. End of the day, they need a backup point guard and he’s another guy to bring competition to the position, so I like it overall. Just lukewarm on it.

 

[Bart]

That is not how business works. The only reason this is a problem is because they gave the players too much power, but i am sure this will be addressed at the next collective bargaining agreement. It was unseen that the players would be doing this, and why the owners not giving them a lot of rope in the past has shown to be the correct call. The players would be working at 7/11 if it wasn't for the NBA, don't forget that

Actually it is how business works. Employees will use what leverage they have to improve their situation at work, NBA players just have a ton more leverage than your average employee. The players have a lot of power because it's their talents that generate revenue for the league. The more popular the league gets, the worse it's going to for teams with regards to the CBA, not better. I'm afraid you're dissatisfaction with the players power is going to persist...lol

 

[Bart]

You're being paid really well so it's not as big of a difference to me. Right now IRL, no. But in fantasy land where I'm making 120M over the next 4 years...yeah that makes a slight difference.

It's all relative. A guy in a third world country think you are a highly paid spoiled brat that is ingrate for trying to improve your situation.

 

[Bart]

if thats hte case they shouldnt have guaranteed contracts- you should be able to cut someones ass when they get hurt or decline.

I cant ever say i have seen a player volunteer to give money back because his skills went to shit or he blew his knee up

The employer looks out for his best interest and the employee does that same. If the employer is fucked over by his decisions, it's his own damn fault.