2019-2020 Official Regular Season Thread

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

May 15 for us. Have to say some things opening or not seem so random. Dentists opened before barbers? Thinking reaching into someone's mouth a little more dangerous when it comes to covid.

And tennis courts where I am were opened (with certain social distancing rules) then closed a couple days later. I don't play anymore but seems like tennis could be done fairly safely with handwashing and not touching face.

We have a ton of recreational vebicles...

4 wheelers, dirt bikes, scooters...etc

They all need tuneups, oil changes or new tires.

But, none of the ATV , bicycle repair shops etc are accepting new service orders.

I can eat at Denny's, Outback, Red Lobster.

But, I can't get repairs done?

You'd think you could drop it off, they could spray it down before bringing it in and that would be that.

Nope.

I don't let my husband fiddle with toys that could hurt someone if not repaired correctly.

 

[trojanfan12]

He ended up in Montana....That is usually a sign of a gambling problem right there lol

Or evading the authorities.

 

[trojanfan12]

I'm just not taking any chances. Unlike alotta people that are going a little crazy from staying home to be on the safe side it's not bothering me.

Because I have folks that I care about who are vulnerable, I'm going to treat it the same way that I treat new restaurant openings here.

Every time a new one opens, everybody and there brother is there for the first couple of weeks to a month. So I wait that out before I go.

Not really a fan of people anyway. Even less of a fan of places where there are a lot of them. lol

 

[Wamu]

Because I have folks that I care about who are vulnerable, I'm going to treat it the same way that I treat new restaurant openings here.

Every time a new one opens, everybody and there brother is there for the first couple of weeks to a month. So I wait that out before I go.

Not really a fan of people anyway. Even less of a fan of places where there are a lot of them. lol

My wife & I rarely went out to eat before all of this started. So staying outta restaurants won't be an issue for us.

Once more things start opening up (which I think's a bit too soon) people will be flocking to places. I think they're idiots. And if an explosion of cases happens at the end of the month or the beginning of June I won't be surprised.

 

[trojanfan12]

My wife & I rarely went out to eat before all of this started. So staying outta restaurants won't be an issue for us.

Once more things start opening up (which I think's a bit too soon) people will be flocking to places. I think they're idiots. And if an explosion of cases happens at the end of the month or the beginning of June I won't be surprised.

Same here and now that I've discovered the wonders of Doordash...I might never see the inside of another restaurant ever again. lol

Even if there is a 2nd wave, I doubt we'll see anything like this initial one. We at least have an idea on what works now as far as protecting ourselves.

I read an interesting article recently that made a fair point about starting to open things up.

Basically, it said that these stay at home orders, masks, etc. were never intended to stop the virus. They were only intended to slow the spread to prevent our medical system from being overrun and so that we could catch up on necessary resources to fight it.

It said that it's getting to be close to time to start looking for (hopefully) some level of "herd immunity" and the only way to do that is people being exposed to it.

 

[Wamu]

Same here and now that I've discovered the wonders of Doordash...I might never see the inside of another restaurant ever again. lol

Even if there is a 2nd wave, I doubt we'll see anything like this initial one. We at least have an idea on what works now as far as protecting ourselves.

I read an interesting article recently that made a fair point about starting to open things up.

Basically, it said that these stay at home orders, masks, etc. were never intended to stop the virus. They were only intended to slow the spread to prevent our medical system from being overrun and so that we could catch up on necessary resources to fight it.

It said that it's getting to be close to time to start looking for (hopefully) some level of "herd immunity" and the only way to do that is people being exposed to it.

I've known about the mask thing for a while now. But for several weeks whenever I've had the leave the house I've worn a mask.

As far as a second wave. I'd be surprised if there isn't one. Just hoping the next wave doesn't overlap with the yearly flu. Don't need both going on at the same time.

 

[wildturkey]

I'm just not taking any chances. Unlike alotta people that are going a little crazy from staying home to be on the safe side it's not bothering me.

South Korea, which has handled the virus FAR FAR better than we have, is starting to see pockets of upticks in new virus cases after opening up restaurants/bars/etc. The restaurants affected have to shut down for a couple of weeks again and it resets. Couple of areas, same thing. Isolate and close down. Again, that's in South Korea where they have things handled much better. Now imagine what's going to happen here where we don't even have adequate testing, much less contact tracing, isolating quarantine plans (not just sending them back home), or even the patience among a sizeable chunk of the population to follow incredibly easy and basic guidelines to follow (it is not that fucking hard to stand 6 feet away or wear a mask).

So yeah, I'd wait a couple more weeks still.

 

[logic]

Won't ever get to 100k. I'll bet you a permanent ban.

How are you feeling about this as we pass 80k?

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

I don't care what opens up around here I'm not going anywhere.

Neither am I.

I'm gonna give it a couple of more weeks.

Since others declined time off, I got my vacation extended thru the last week of May.

Chances are in a couple/few more weeks it will be the beginning of seeing another spike.
Look what's going on with the rest of the world. South Korea was praised for doing things right and they are already having a second wave by not waiting long enough.

 

[Stakesarehigh]

How are you feeling about this as we pass 80k?

Yikes

We're definitely passing that

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

How are you feeling about this as we pass 80k?

It's not even realistic IMO to think it's even possible to stay below 100k.
While it appears it's safe to get back to some normalcy in parts of the country, it's not in heavily populated areas.
I predict the idiocy in Florida alone is a lock to directly impact 20K+ more people dying.

 

[Stakesarehigh]

Chances are in a couple/few more weeks it will be the beginning of seeing another spike.
Look what's going on with the rest of the world. South Korea was praised for doing things right and they are already being a second wave by not waiting long enough.

Depends what you consider a spike. Case counts will go up dramatically as states test more.

Watching hospitalizations and death tolls is a better key

If they explode we may have to rethink this thing

 

[logic]

It said that it's getting to be close to time to start looking for (hopefully) some level of "herd immunity" and the only way to do that is people being exposed to it.

Herd immunity is almost always achieved with vaccine immunization. We didn't stop polio, small pox, measles, or even chicken pox without vaccines. To get herd immunity you need 80-95% immune. With a population of 330,000,000 in the US and a lethality of somewhere around 0.5% that would be sacrificing about 1million Americans to get herd immunity levels without a vaccine, if even possible.

 

[msgkings322]

How are you feeling about this as we pass 80k?

If he'd had any guts and bet me I'd be sweating it for sure. Whether I'm right or not depends on how long the bet would have gone and if we keep getting the trend we want (lately the figures have really improved)

But yeah it now could easily get there, which is sad. I was too optimistic.

 

[trojanfan12]

Depends what you consider a spike. Case counts will go up dramatically as states test more.

Watching hospitalizations and death tolls is a better key

If they explode we may have to rethink this thing

Exactly.

Yes, the number of cases is very likely to have a spike. More tests, more people who will test positive.

As long as hospitalizations and deaths continue to trend down, you keep moving forward with opening things.

 

[msgkings322]

Exactly.

Yes, the number of cases is very likely to have a spike. More tests, more people who will test positive.

As long as hospitalizations and deaths continue to trend down, you keep moving forward with opening things.

This is correct, case numbers are not at all the metric that matters. In fact if case numbers keep rising while deaths fall that's great news, means the virus is less lethal than feared

 

[trojanfan12]

This is correct, case numbers are not at all the metric that matters. In fact if case numbers keep rising while deaths fall that's great news, means the virus is less lethal than feared

The other thing that will be important, imo, is how things are handled if there is a 2nd spike in hospitalizations and deaths.

The temptation would likely be to reset back to square 1. Hopefully, they'd decide to just stop and hold where we are for a week or 2 longer and see where it goes.

 

[logic]

The other thing that will be important, imo, is how things are handled if there is a 2nd spike in hospitalizations and deaths.

The temptation would likely be to reset back to square 1. Hopefully, they'd decide to just stop and hold where we are for a week or 2 longer and see where it goes.

here in Michigan I am fully expecting a significant second wave. People are already tired of stay at home and beginning to behave badly. I'm not talking about the protests you've seen on tv, I'm talking about the gatherings I'm seeing in my neighborhood. We are set to come off the latest stay at home order at the end of the month. This coincides with nice weather here which means tons of people every weekend go from population centers to go up north to lake houses in small communities that have not yet been as affected. These places have poor health care facilities that will be overrun by any more than 3 cases. So the lake locals are screwed. Plus the people visiting their lake house neighbors can also then bring it back to the urban centers again when they return home. I'm pretty certain July will not have good numbers here in Michigan.

 

[trojanfan12]

here in Michigan I am fully expecting a significant second wave. People are already tired of stay at home and beginning to behave badly. I'm not talking about the protests you've seen on tv, I'm talking about the gatherings I'm seeing in my neighborhood. We are set to come off the latest stay at home order at the end of the month. This coincides with nice weather here which means tons of people every weekend go from population centers to go up north to lake houses in small communities that have not yet been as affected. These places have poor health care facilities that will be overrun by any more than 3 cases. So the lake locals are screwed. Plus the people visiting their lake house neighbors can also then bring it back to the urban centers again when they return home. I'm pretty certain July will not have good numbers here in Michigan.

I'm not so sure a 2nd wave, if one happens, will be as bad as you think.

People have been separated for how long now? I'd think that if someone was going to get it, they'd have had it by now and recovered.

Also, as mentioned earlier, a spike in reported cases isn't what's going to be important, more testing (and more accurate testing) will almost certainly create a spike in cases.

It's hospitalizations and deaths that will need to be watched closely.

 

[Stakesarehigh]

I was a little startled by behaviors I also witnessed and that's the issue with such a large disinformation effort that's taking place.