2018-2019 NBA Regular Season Thread

[WiggyRuss]

I mean these deals happen all the time.

The Cavs- when they were trying to sign Lebron dealt Jarret Jacks bad contract to the Nets via the Celtics and had to give up Zeller and a first rounder.

The Lakers have been on both sides of these deals--- they took back Jeremy Linns bad contract from the Rockets for a first round pick.....At one point the Lakers also traded Derek Fisher and a first round pick to the Rockets in order to get rid of Fishers salary.

As I said- the Lakers got Sessions and the Cavs took Luke Waltons bad contract in order to get a first rounder and a pick swap.

As i said- the Cavs took Speights and Ellington and a first rounder in order to help the Griz get under hte lux tax

As i said- the Cavs dealt mo Williams for Baron Davis terrible contract and the lotto pick that became Kyrie Irving

One of hte most famous ones that started the trend was the Suns trading Kurt Thomas and 2 first rounders to the then Sonics--- one of those picks becoming Ibaka if iam not mistaken.

The Thunder JUST dealt Melo and a first rounder to the Hawks to get rid of Carmelo.

The Heat traded a first rounder and Joel Anthony (to get off his contract) to the Celtics.

The FUCKING KINGS GAVE UP THEIR PICK THAT IS DUE THIS YEAR TO BOSTON TO DUMP SALARY--- trading Jason Thompson and Landry to the Sixers and adding their first round pick so they could go out and sign Rajon Fucking Rondo

Miami gave up 2 2nd rounders to get off of Chris Andersons pidly contract!

The Clippers pawned off Jared Dudley to the Bucks for their first round pick

there are PLENTY MORE--- and even more that are MORE about the money than anything else but at least have decent players going both ways--- but make no mistake were about salary dumps

 

[WiggyRuss]

If the Knicks were to trade Knox just to get rid of Hardaway they should fire their front office, again. No way the Nets are going to give up assets to get rid of Crabbe. First off, they have plenty of cap space. Secondly, they brought in Crabbe to GET assets, why would they move him now and lose assets?



You high as a kite if you think the Knicks will trade Knox for cap space. He was the youngest player drafted this year. Giving up on him now would be beyond idiotic, even for the Knicks.



It can happen but most teams aren't going to give up existing quality assets to do it. They aren't going to give up lottery picks either, unless the pick is way down the road.

The Clippers weren't dumping contracts. They wanted Davis. The Cavs took draft picks. I don't believe the Griz were either.

Revisiting the Jon Leuer Trade

 

[WiggyRuss]

The Clippers weren't dumping contracts. They wanted Davis. The Cavs took draft picks. I don't believe the Griz were either.

@trojanfan12 can we institute a double bullshit button? just SOMETHING to truly show the galactic incompetence of this post?

 

[flyerhawk]

this is honestly one of the dumbest and most ill-informed posts i have ever seen.

This is why no one treats you with any respect. Because you always have to be an asshole with anyone that disagrees with you.

 

[WiggyRuss]

This is why no one treats you with any respect. Because you always have to be an asshole with anyone that disagrees with you.

I mean- id think that you would have a decent idea of this--- didnt hte Sixers get a pick from the Kings that is only like top 3 protected this year for taking back Thompson and Landrys bad contracts? and then the Sixers dealt it to the Celtics

Not sure what you were even talking about with Baron Davis and Speights/Ellington but you were clearly wrong. Before you call me idiotic it might have been a decent idea to at least make sure what you were saying was not 100% completely and totally made up. What does "they brought in crabbe to get assets" even mean? that makes ZERO senseas well.

Another one is PRECISELY what i talked about- the Lakers giving up Russell- a recent #2 pick to get off of Mozgovs contract.

But i must be high and am idiotic....right.

 

[LAD]

1st. Kevin Love ring a bell? lol - Kevin Love? Prime example of a player being a shell of his former self! SMH

2nd- Whiteside and Dragic arent even the Heat's best player- Richardson is. Who said they have to be the Heat's best players to be better than the players on the Cavs??

Third- I wouldnt trade Sexton for anyone on the Heat in a straight up deal. And you were the only one who didn't see LBJ leaving Cle after last season...

Fourth- Whiteside is trash - your usual redderick when you have nothing of value to say.

Fifth- Dragic is getting up there and he is a FA at the end of the year - Kevin Love is no spring chicken

Last but not least- the WORST place to be in the NBA is the middle- which is where the Heat are TRYING to be.- and also kinda where the Lakers are. lol. This translate to: the Cavs suck this season so I will deflect by talking about the Lakers & Heat.

 

[LAD]

Lol @ ignoring Luke's plays.

But, no surprise here.

He is essentially a coach on the floor.

He has earned the right to have a longer leash.

Agreed.
This is someone trying to make this a bigger deal than it really is. ALL of the superstars have done this and do this to a certain extent. I actually think it's to be expected in certain situations.

 

[flyerhawk]

I mean- id think that you would have a decent idea of this--- didnt hte Sixers get a pick from the Kings that is only like top 3 protected this year for taking back Thompson and Landrys bad contracts? and then the Sixers dealt it to the Celtics

Not sure what you were even talking about with Baron Davis and Speights/Ellington but you were clearly wrong. Before you call me idiotic it might have been a decent idea to at least make sure what you were saying was not 100% completely and totally made up. What does "they brought in crabbe to get assets" even mean? that makes ZERO senseas well.

Another one is PRECISELY what i talked about- the Lakers giving up Russell- a recent #2 pick to get off of Mozgovs contract.

But i must be high and am idiotic....right.

I didn't call you idiotic.

I'm one of the few people that tries to interact with you respectfully. If you can't be bothered to do the same then I have no interest in interacting with you.

 

[bksballer89]

As bad as Miami is, they're one game back in the loss column before 8th seeded Orlando lol

Shit conference after the top 5

 

[bksballer89]

I didn't call you idiotic.

I'm one of the few people that tries to interact with you respectfully. If you can't be bothered to do the same then I have no interest in interacting with you.

Dont waste your time

 

[WiggyRuss]

I didn't call you idiotic.

I'm one of the few people that tries to interact with you respectfully. If you can't be bothered to do the same then I have no interest in interacting with you.

I apologize if that was a little harsh- but after being called idiotic and high for putting out there clearly rational ideas i was not exactly thrilled.

On top of that- like i said- the vast majority of what you wrote doesnt even make any sense- which surprised me as most of your posts usually actually do make sense. ---esp. the davis/speights ellington/crabbe stuff.....and like i said- if anyone should know that lotto picks get dealt in salary dumps its a sixers or celtics fan- or a cavs fan- which are our teams.

i mean- if the Knicks just need to get off of Hardaways deal in order to sign Kemba and Middleton or Durant or any one of those top guys- they are giving away Ntilikina or Knox if half a second--- same iwth the NEts and trading a mid-first rounder.

To refreshs your memory- Dan Gilbert basically said-- sure ill pay Baron Davis' remaining 50M dollars even though he is a gimp at this point- just give me your lotto pick.

You should know more than anyone that the Sixers said- sure- we will take Thompson and Landry- just give us your first rounder Sacramento. Those type of deals absolutely happen.

As for Crabbe- wasnt he dealt to the Nets in a trade wehre each team dumped bad contracts and huge amounts of salary? No one is taking Crabbe without getting an asset at this point- and the 16th pick in the first round is absolutely reasonable to take back an 18M dollar liability.

Knox would be a small price to pay for the Knicks to get rid of 40M+ of Tim Hardaway if they had the opportunity to add 2 big time players around Porzingis.

 

[WiggyRuss]

As bad as Miami is, they're one game back in the loss column before 8th seeded Orlando lol

Shit conference after the top 5

it just seems that Miami has been mediocre a loooooong time and wihout truly bottoming out and getting the opportunity to add a big time talent is just gonna stay there.

 

[bksballer89]

it just seems that Miami has been mediocre a loooooong time and wihout truly bottoming out and getting the opportunity to add a big time talent is just gonna stay there.

5 years is a long time? Especially when they just came off a period where they won 3 titles in 9 years?

 

[flyerhawk]

I apologize if that was a little harsh- but after being called idiotic and high for putting out there clearly rational ideas i was not exactly thrilled.

I didn't call you idiotic. I said it would be idiotic for the New York Knicks to trade Kevin Knox simply to dump the Hardaway contract. Which is true.

On top of that- like i said- the vast majority of what you wrote doesnt even make any sense- which surprised me as most of your posts usually actually do make sense. ---esp. the davis/speights ellington/crabbe stuff.....and like i said- if anyone should know that lotto picks get dealt in salary dumps its a sixers or celtics fan- or a cavs fan- which are our teams.

I don't remember the details of those trades that well since I don't care about the Cavs.

i mean- if the Knicks just need to get off of Hardaways deal in order to sign Kemba and Middleton or Durant or any one of those top guys- they are giving away Ntilikina or Knox if half a second--- same iwth the NEts and trading a mid-first rounder.

If the Knicks decide they need to get rid of him they will dump him for FAR LESS than giving up their lottery pick 19 year old. Same is true with the Nets.

Tim Hardaway is overpaid but still a competent player. There are several teams that would get involved in trading for him and getting assets like a 2nd rounder.

To refreshs your memory- Dan Gilbert basically said-- sure ill pay Baron Davis' remaining 50M dollars even though he is a gimp at this point- just give me your lotto pick.

You should know more than anyone that the Sixers said- sure- we will take Thompson and Landry- just give us your first rounder Sacramento. Those type of deals absolutely happen.

As for Crabbe- wasnt he dealt to the Nets in a trade wehre each team dumped bad contracts and huge amounts of salary? No one is taking Crabbe without getting an asset at this point- and the 16th pick in the first round is absolutely reasonable to take back an 18M dollar liability.

Knox would be a small price to pay for the Knicks to get rid of 40M+ of Tim Hardaway if they had the opportunity to add 2 big time players around Porzingis.

Of course the Knicks or the Nets would give up assets to dump those players if the situation warranted it. But that doesn't mean that they are going to dump lottery picks for them.

Teams do dumb things sometimes. But assuming that it will happen is a huge stretch.

 

[bksballer89]

I apologize

It happened!!!!! He said the magic 2 words for the first time ever

@tlance @Mecca @DJ @ChiefsLakers67

 

[Wamu]

it just seems that Miami has been mediocre a loooooong time and wihout truly bottoming out and getting the opportunity to add a big time talent is just gonna stay there.

You got your custom Homer Goggles super glued to your head again? It hasn't been "a looooong time". Well maybe in your world 5 years is a long time. But not to anyone else.

A loooong time ago was the Celtics dynasty of the late 50's / early 60's.

A loooong time ago was meeeechegan's last outright Natty, 1948.

A loooong time ago was when Bruce Jenner was an Olympic hero. Then he chopped his nuts off cause those Kardassian's drove him insane.

A loooong time ago was when Dr. James Naismith invented the game of basketball.


Is it the fucking weekend yet? Nope. Dammit!

 

[WiggyRuss]

I didn't call you idiotic. I said it would be idiotic for the New York Knicks to trade Kevin Knox simply to dump the Hardaway contract. Which is true.



I don't remember the details of those trades that well since I don't care about the Cavs.



If the Knicks decide they need to get rid of him they will dump him for FAR LESS than giving up their lottery pick 19 year old. Same is true with the Nets.

Tim Hardaway is overpaid but still a competent player. There are several teams that would get involved in trading for him and getting assets like a 2nd rounder.



Of course the Knicks or the Nets would give up assets to dump those players if the situation warranted it. But that doesn't mean that they are going to dump lottery picks for them.

Teams do dumb things sometimes. But assuming that it will happen is a huge stretch.

if you think someone is taking Tim Hardaway or Alan Crabbe for a 2nd rounder i just dont know what to say.

Just think about it logically--- Hardaway, AFTER htis year still has like 36M left on his deal- you can buy a 2nd round pick for like 2-3M. at the TOP of the 2nd round.

In order to take a player like Crabbe or Hardaway or GAllo- the price is AT LEAST a mid first rounder--- as i said- the Lakers had to trade Russell to get off of Mozgov--- the Clips had to trade a lotto pick to get off Davis---- the Kings had to trade a lotto pick to get off of Thompson/Landry.

Just think about Luol Deng with the Lakers- they were begging teams to take him and no one would- it costs a LOT more than a 2nd rounder or two to get off of that salary

shit dude- the Cavs just got 2 2nd rounders for ancient Kyle Korver. If the Clips tried to get off of Gallo it would be AT LEAST SGA and prob more.

 

[Black Adam]

It happened!!!!! He said the magic 2 words for the first time ever

@tlance @Mecca @DJ @ChiefsLakers67

shit, I'm preparing for the apocalypse...

#rainsfireanddeath

 

[Wamu]

shit, I'm preparing for the apocalypse...

#rainsfireanddeath

You'll need some food. Get alotta Twinkies. They don't have an expiration date.

 

[Wamu]

It happened!!!!! He said the magic 2 words for the first time ever

@tlance @Mecca @DJ @ChiefsLakers67