2018-2019 NBA Regular Season Thread

[tlance]

"wears him down"? You mean he wasn't 100% in 2015? I could just sit back and watch you kick your own ass.

I love this forum.

Being injured is a lot different from being tired.

But running a possession through tired LeBron in 2015 was still more effective for Cleveland than running 1 through Kyrie. Because he was that much better.

And Delly provided much better defense on Curry somewhat mitigating the loss of Irving.

And no, before people try to twist my words, I am not saying Cleveland was better without Kyrie. But Klay and Draymond were a lot more crucial to the success of the 2015 or 2016 Warriors than Kyrie or Love to the 2015 Cavs.

AND it really isn't close.

 

[tlance]

How's Lebron doing as "the engine" now.

as I said, I should just sit back and watch you kick your own ass.

Up until he got hurt, just fine:

But he is also 4 years older, playing overweight and out of shape after missing 5+ weeks and playing with a terrible cast of veteran misfits.

2015 LeBron >>>> 2019 LeBron

 

[tlance]

are you able to follow a thread, or you just assume you should take the side based on poster and not post?

Never said or implied anyone would do better with these guys.

Or maybe, just maybe

You are the one getting your ass kicked.

I come with facts and hard evidence.

Please don't get me started on the "impact" of Kevin Love.

 

[trojanfan12]

who said otherwise.....just saying Big Ben made AB go and not the other way around.

Yes and no. It's a combo platter and imo, both make each other.

It doesn't matter how good a QB is if he doesn't have anyone who can get open and catch the ball.

By the same token, it doesn't matter how good a receiver is if the QB can't get him the ball.

Obviously, some QB's are better at throwing a "catchable" ball than others which definitely helps a receiver. But some receivers are better at getting open and making "tough catches" than others, which definitely helps the QB.

 

[dtgold88]

Being injured is a lot different from being tired.

But running a possession through tired LeBron in 2015 was still more effective for Cleveland than running 1 through Kyrie. Because he was that much better.

And Delly provided much better defense on Curry somewhat mitigating the loss of Irving.

And no, before people try to twist my words, I am not saying Cleveland was better without Kyrie. But Klay and Draymond were a lot more crucial to the success of the 2015 or 2016 Warriors than Kyrie or Love to the 2015 Cavs.

AND it really isn't close.

Oh my.......I will reply so I can keep seeing the comedy you provide here.

Did you miss game 1? Kyrie was pretty good if you were not aware. And he was far less than 100% than Curry was in 2016.

and no duh Klay and Dray were more crucial as they played. Love and Kyrie did not in 2015.

Hilarious.

 

[dtgold88]

Up until he got hurt, just fine:

But he is also 4 years older, playing overweight and out of shape after missing 5+ weeks and playing with a terrible cast of veteran misfits.

2015 LeBron >>>> 2019 LeBron

And 2015 Kyrie and Love out 11-12 games > Curry hobbled but playing every game and Green out 1 game

when it comes to impact.

 

[Wamu]

wasn't domestic violence as I don't condone that either. Can you "be a fucking man" and admit this gaffe? Maybe if I add an emoji?

Never mind he did walk away.

Well it seems that you do condone it if it can help your team out. All I did was quote you. You're the one that said even though it was a very light kick & every team has a player on the roster who has done worse than what Hunt did.

2x in that comment of yours (# 26382) you made excuses for Hunt for what he did. So stop w/ that nonsense about a gaffe. You've defended him. I haven't.

And now you're playing the same game you always play. You know your own game don't you? Telling people they're wrong when they don't agree w/ you. Like I've said before you've been doing that since the moment you arrived in the NBA threads.

 

[dtgold88]

Or maybe, just maybe

You are the one getting your ass kicked.

I come with facts and hard evidence.

Please don't get me started on the "impact" of Kevin Love.

Your hard evidence is not understanding the "luck" of being without Green for a game and having Curry every game but hobbled is a tad different than Love/Kyrie out for 11 of 12 games.

 

[dtgold88]

Yes and no. It's a combo platter and imo, both make each other.

It doesn't matter how good a QB is if he doesn't have anyone who can get open and catch the ball.

By the same token, it doesn't matter how good a receiver is if the QB can't get him the ball.

Obviously, some QB's are better at throwing a "catchable" ball than others which definitely helps a receiver. But some receivers are better at getting open and making "tough catches" than others, which definitely helps the QB.

I agree great WRs will probably help out a lesser QB, but there is a reason it doesn't seem to matter who plays WR in GB, Indy, NO, Pittsburgh.....as long as the QB remains healthy the O doesn't skip a beat.

However, when that QB goes down, those stud WRs don't do much.

 

[dtgold88]

Well it seems that you do condone it if it can help your team out. All I did was quote you. You're the one that said even though it was a very light kick & every team has a player on the roster who has done worse than what Hunt did.

2x in that comment of yours (# 26382) you made excuses for Hunt for what he did. So stop w/ that nonsense about a gaffe. You've defended him. I haven't.

And now you're playing the same game you always play. You know your own game don't you? Telling people they're wrong when they don't agree w/ you. Like I've said before you've been doing that since the moment you arrived in the NBA threads.

That's not "all you did". You seemed to think what Hunt did was domestic violence and said I condoned domestic violence. If by my game you mean trying to educate you when you are clearly wrong, knowing it's not in you to man up and admit a clear gaffe? I guess I'm guilty.

Let's see if you can answer a direct question as opposed to going right into deflect mode......

Were Hunt's actions in the video domestic violence?

A) yes
B) no
c) you know I wont answer a direct question so here comes my deflection.

 

[Wamu]

That's not "all you did". You seemed to think what Hunt did was domestic violence and said I condoned domestic violence. If by my game you mean trying to educate you when you are clearly wrong, knowing it's not in you to man up and admit a clear gaffe? I guess I'm guilty.

Let's see if you can answer a direct question as opposed to going right into deflect mode......

Were Hunt's actions in the video domestic violence?

A) yes
B) no
c) you know I wont answer a direct question so here comes my deflection.

In that video Hunt pushes her twice & kicks her. So to answer your question A. What do you think domestic violence is? That it's only a crime if it happens in someones home?

 

[tlance]

Your hard evidence is not understanding the "luck" of being without Green for a game and having Curry every game but hobbled is a tad different than Love/Kyrie out for 11 of 12 games.

According to you.

We aren't talking about degrees.

Both teams got lucky. We will never know what would have happened in 2015. Maybe Cleveland was better, maybe they weren't. It sure as hell wasn't the forgone conclusion you Cavs fans want to make
It because of the poor chemistry and lack of bench leadership at the time.

While I know you will continue to argue, yes, Cleveland benefitted from a lot of luck in 2016. You can't deny that.

End of conversation.

 

[dtgold88]

In that video Hunt pushes her twice & kicks her. So to answer your question A. What do you think domestic violence is? That it's only a crime if it happens in someones home?

Yes, she comes after him and he pushes her off of him. Probably should have just stood there and let her hit him.

Here is the legal definition of domestic violence - n. the continuing crime and problem of the physical beating of a wife, girlfriend or children, usually by the woman's male partner (although may be female violence against a male). It is now recognized as an anti-social mental illness.

You thinking the woman they just met and asked a number of times to leave was his wife, girlfriend or child?

Let me guess, instead of admitting another gaffe by you you'll deflect and play the "this is what you always do" card.

I wouldn't say I always prove you are wrong (as we often agree on topics), but what you "always do" when you are proven to be wrong is never man up and admit your gaffe and then deflect and blame me for you continuing to be wrong so often.

 

[Wamu]

Brickabocker owner James Dolan had a fan ejected yesterday for saying sell the team.

 

[dtgold88]

According to you.

We aren't talking about degrees.

Both teams got lucky. We will never know what would have happened in 2015. Maybe Cleveland was better, maybe they weren't. It sure as hell wasn't the forgone conclusion you Cavs fans want to make
It because of the poor chemistry and lack of bench leadership at the time.

While I know you will continue to argue, yes, Cleveland benefitted from a lot of luck in 2016. You can't deny that.

End of conversation.

Poor chemistry that allowed them to pretty much roll to the Finals?

and, yes, I can deny it. a lot of luck is Curry being hurt but still playing every game and Green missing 1 game. what is the extent of the luck when Kyrie and Love miss 11 of 12 games? Double Secret super Luck?

 

[dtgold88]

Brickabocker owner James Dolan had a fan ejected yesterday for saying sell the team.

would imagine if he did this whenever a fan made this comment the arena would lose most of the fans who bother to show.

 

[Wamu]

Yes, she comes after him and he pushes her off of him. Probably should have just stood there and let her hit him.

Here is the legal definition of domestic violence - n. the continuing crime and problem of the physical beating of a wife, girlfriend or children, usually by the woman's male partner (although may be female violence against a male). It is now recognized as an anti-social mental illness.

You thinking the woman they just met and asked a number of times to leave was his wife, girlfriend or child?

Let me guess, instead of admitting another gaffe by you you'll deflect and play the "this is what you always do" card.

I wouldn't say I always prove you are wrong (as we often agree on topics), but what you "always do" when you are proven to be wrong is never man up and admit your gaffe and then deflect and blame me for you continuing to be wrong so often.

I haven't deflected anything. All I've said is I don't approve of what Hunt did. You're the one that keeps defending him.

You wanna keep this topic going to prove to yourself whatever it is you're trying to prove that's fine. But I've already said how I feel about this topic. And I'm not going to change my mind.

Hunt pushed & kicker her, it's in the video. Not sure how that's being wrong, not manning up or committing some gaffe as you've claimed.

 

[tlance]

Poor chemistry that allowed them to pretty much roll to the Finals?

and, yes, I can deny it. a lot of luck is Curry being hurt but still playing every game and Green missing 1 game. what is the extent of the luck when Kyrie and Love miss 11 of 12 games? Double Secret super Luck?

Yep.

In a year where the East was as bad as it has ever been.

The Bulls were okay. The Hawks were a good regular season team. There was never a realistic option to take out Cleveland that year.

And the chemistry issues were mostly because of drama between the stars and the coach. When Kyrie and Love went down, chemistry issues disappear because the role players quickly got in line behind LeBron.

 

[dtgold88]

I haven't deflected anything. All I've said is I don't approve of what Hunt did. You're the one that keeps defending him.

You wanna keep this topic going to prove to yourself whatever it is you're trying to prove that's fine. But I've already said how I feel about this topic. And I'm not going to change my mind.

Hunt pushed & kicker her, it's in the video. Not sure how that's being wrong, not manning up or committing some gaffe as you've claimed.

deflection. Not surprised.

what was wrong was saying what he did was domestic violence and that I supported domestic violence. Then showing again you don't know what DV is. Then getting the legal definition of DV and not being able to man up and admit your gaffe.

If Hunt has been constantly abusing his wife I would have a hard time with him being on the team. But a woman who was asked to leave more than once by many people who went after him? with him pushing her off of him.

a little different than DV wouldn't you say?

 

[dtgold88]

Yep.

In a year where the East was as bad as it has ever been.

The Bulls were okay. The Hawks were a good regular season team. There was never a realistic option to take out Cleveland that year.

And the chemistry issues were mostly because of drama between the stars and the coach. When Kyrie and Love went down, chemistry issues disappear because the role players quickly got in line behind LeBron.

That's your play now? The role players stepped up? No chemistry issues against the Hawks simply because they weren't good enough?

Ya gotta love this forum.