2018-2019 NBA Regular Season Thread

[dtgold88]

Why would a guy who is looking for a 1 year deal so that he can hopefully turn it into a bigger, multi-year deal want to go to a team that is going to give him less playing time?

For those guys, it's not about playing for the Lakers or with Lebron. It's about playing where they can get the most minutes and earn a better contract.

It was that hard for a solid player to earn minutes for his next deal if he had talent? MJ sold Tony Parker on being a backup in Charlotte. Magic couldn't do the same in LA? How about Jeff Green instead of Lance?

 

[dtgold88]

What I find hard to understand is why is he so out of shape? I get he wasn't playing or working out while healing...but since then he hasn't been able to get back? Even when we consider his regimen as being state of the art?

I wonder if it's not that he just lost interest as much as being out of shape? But he does look heavier.

 

[dtgold88]

It's not as simple as just doing the math in this case. They were the 4 seed when he went down & they didn't free fall while he was out either. But since then teams like the Clippers & Kings made major moves at the deadline that helped impact their teams while simultaneously the Lakers were starting to struggle.

This late in the season when a team is on the outside looking in @ playoff seeding making the playoffs is no longer just about what they can do to get there, but also the demise of other teams also in the running.

Correct, though not sure what this had to do with the discussion. someone claimed LA easily makes the playoffs if he goes down. I said how could we know? Even if they went 8-4 instead of 4-8 no lock they'd make it.

 

[LAD]

But I never made mention of the smog, and the river catching fire was before you were born.

Now you call my posts dumb then steal one?

I could not make this up if I wanted to.

First off, I quoted Wiggy's post that had a picture of the smog. From there YOU butted in, as usual, and made your stupid comments.

Also, not sure why you think because it happened before some people were born should make it irrelevant. Does yesterday's history become irrelevant to babies that are born today or tomorrow? See how stupid that sounds?

 

[LAD]

well no doubt.....but it's not getting what you pay for when you could get more for far less.

Yes, it is to some if they want to be in THAT LOCATION.

 

[dtgold88]

I don't need your help with anything. If you think Love putting up 20 -15 on that $h!tty Cavs team means he is the same caliber player he was in his prime I can't help you. That was the same situation he had in Minny.

But as soon as he went to play with other good/great players what happened? And don't give me the excuse that he couldn't perform because of LBJ & Kyrie. LBJ might be many things but a ball hog he is not...and is more than a willing passer. But the onliest problem for Love there was he would have to actually be playing to receive those passes.

The other problem is that we watch three good/great players share the ball & the spot light every night here in the Bay, proof that it CAN actually be done without dimming one's shining star.

Very few people on any team have put up 20, 15 and had three 3s. Ever. Been a lot of great players on shitty teams who have never done this...even in their mid-20s.

Love was pretty much Bosh joining Miami. went from a #1 to a #3. comical each sacrificed his game for the better of the team and you use it as a criticism for Love. Never mind the guy was still going for 15-20 points and 8-11 rebounds most nights.

Please never change.

 

[Black Adam]

Davis could solve that problem.

But, will they get him?

If the Knicks get a top 2 pick, the Lakers are in trouble.

Once it becomes mathematically impossible for them to get in the playoffs, I'd sit anyone who has a broken toenail or worse to get a better pick.

In all honesty, I would love to see the LAkers get the #1 pick just so I can see the internet implode....lol

It would be ANARCHY.

lol, would almost be worth it...

 

[LAD]

I can agree with this.

AGAIN: LeBron, Ingram and Kuz have not been the problem.

It's the rest of the roster.

Mcgee checked out when you brought in Tyson.

Lance checked out when his minutes decreased because of dumb fuckery.

KCP has been hot, and mostly cold, for 2 years.

Rondo......

Some games he looks like the answer.

Other games?

He looks like he forgot the question.

Let's remember, most thought McGee left for LA because he was promised a starting role & more playing time than he was getting with GS. The money wasn't far off between the two clubs.

So, why would they bring in Tyson? At the very least, you bring in a big that will come off the bench to spell McGee.
And at your evaluation of Rondo...but is spot on though.

 

[LAD]

Very few people on any team have put up 20, 15 and had three 3s. Ever. Been a lot of great players on shitty teams who have never done this...even in their mid-20s.

Love was pretty much Bosh joining Miami. went from a #1 to a #3. comical each sacrificed his game for the better of the team and you use it as a criticism for Love. Never mind the guy was still going for 15-20 points and 8-11 rebounds most nights.

Please never change.

See your challenge is staying focused on the debate at hand. You spat the same crap over & over again that you confuse yourself most of the time.

I never said those weren't good numbers. What I said the problem is he CAN'T STAY HEALTHY long enough for it to be consistent work. Yet you want to compare him to other guys that are in their prime that also happen to STAY HEALTHY.

And I also pointed out that SOMEONE on that bad team has to put up numbers....much of what was the same situation when he was in Minny. Why is that so hard for you to understand?

 

[Black Adam]

Random comment of the day

Bamba's defense on 2k19 is absurd. I had five blocks and fourteen boards with the dude in a game to 21 lol

The Lakers just need that.. but you know...in real life

love 2K, but agreed that some of the players' ratings are too high or flat-out ridiculous...

 

[LAD]

No, but guessing here) getting a 4000-5000 square foot home in a nice suburb in Cleveland, Detroit, Pittsburgh, etc might be nicer than a 1200 square foot home in a not as nice area in LA

Well then you'd be guessing wrong on two fronts.

One, Cali is a much more appealing destination than Ohio. I mean who do you know will buy a home in a suburb & only stay in their house? At some point you will have to venture out and maybe that is the problem.

Two, there are plenty of suburbs in the So Cal and Nor Cal area that are affordable and in good areas.

 

[LAD]

1 acre of land on the Florida intercoastal may be underwater 15 years from now! PROBABLY will be.

This is only believable to those whom also believe in global warming - I happen to agree.

And 15 years is plenty of time to buy, accrue equity and sell.

 

[LAD]

Agree. I can only imagine what they must be thinking. I mean, this is the guy they all wanted to be when they were growing up. Probiably had all of his gear, posters of him on their walls, etc.

They get a chance to play with him, everything is going good and they are playing well. Dream come true for them.

Then, he gets hurt, starts trying to play GM and they all find themselves on the trading block because he wants someone else. I'd imagine that there were some rustled jimmies in that locker room. lol

They're professionals and it comes with the territory. But they are also human and have never been through that before.

How the AD debacle came about & went down- and LBJ's role in it- probably made it easier for the youngsters to relate to Kyrie when he wanted out of a winning situation.

 

[Black Adam]

Agreed.

And in a sense, they have LBJ, Rich Paul & Klutch sports to thank for the implode?

I wasn't gonna say it...

 

[LAD]

Last 2 Seasons, they have started slowly and finished strong.

While being led last year by a rookie. Bouncing OKC in the 1st round was unexpected by many here, remember?

 

[LAD]

seems like with max room available and the lure of LA would think Magic/Pelinka could do better building the roster.

Not really when neither of them had any experience at it & they had no one with any experience helping them get acclimated to those roles.

 

[LAD]

It was a lack of experience on Magic's part.

They should not have allowed Klutch to accelerate their timeline.

With that being said, once Klutch made the Davis trade request public the front office's hand was forced.

Like, really what were their options?

Not throw their hats into the ring and allow him to get traded to a place that he learns to like?

* See Paul George

I think at that point it was time for Jeanie to step in & bring LBJ & Klutch in for a meeting about who is running the team. Once you become one person's doormat others will ensue.

 

[LAD]

All of this.

Do you think he has done some harm to the Lakers chances in free agency?

I don't think guys like Kawhi, Klay, Boogie would care if they wanted to come to LA.

Durant?

Probably.

He's so fucking thin skinned

I think it would bother Klay as well. Think back to when the media was on him when he was in his slump...he clearly was irritated with talking to the media. lol

 

[CitySushi]

@tlance
@dtgold88
@WiggyRuss

I just read a twitter thread that exactly summed up the Curry injury situation in 2016 and that comparison to today's Lebron.

Instead of posting the multiple tweets, I'm going to just post the quotes verbatim:

Steph Curry had arguably one of most statistically impressive seasons in NBA history in 2016 (many say the best ever), got injured early in the playoffs and after coming back too soon, displayed...

...wildly inconsistent performances in both the WCF against Durant’s Thunder and in the Finals against Lebron’s Cavaliers which culminated in a Finals loss.

The Warriors won the first two games in that series with Steph only scoring 11 and 17. Cavaliers scouts even admitted at the time the Steph wasn’t the same post-injury...

...and that was obvious to non-bandwagon Dubs fans because they were scheming less off-ball Steph than normal, something that was instrumental in making the entire Dubs roster, full of league reject role players, flourish.

Fast forward to now. Lebron is now a Laker. Prior to his groin injury, he has the Lakers at a respectable 20-14 record. Not great but they could have predictably finished a 4 or 5 seed once the mid season shakes up, maybe better.

Lebron returns to the Lakers two games above .500, has obviously lost bounce and a step, was consistently getting beat off the dribble, and hanging out in the paint while his man sit on the perimeter. They have gone 4-10 since his return from injury.

Beating a less than 100% Steph has been argued for the greatness of Lebron; but today, like clockwork, Lebron not being 100% is the reason the Lakers season is tanking. There are other variables too: Lonzo Ball being injured, role players not hitting open shots, coaching.

But those variable existed when Steph was less than 100% too with Bogut falling to injury and players like Harrison Barnes, who has less upside than a Brandon Ingram, weren’t hitting shots. They were playing Festus Ezeli in crunch time for gods sake, lol.

But Steph Curry, a 6 “3” guard who hasn’t spent his career elbowing people to the rim doesn’t get the exemptions Lebron does when things fall apart. The end.

 

[LAD]

But I never made mention of the smog, and the river catching fire was before you were born.

Now you call my posts dumb then steal one?

I could not make this up if I wanted to.

One thing about me, I will call a spade a spade. Yes I did call your posts dumb & gave you an example as a supporting factor. The only thing left here for you to do is take accountability & work on being better.

You're welcome.