2016 World Junior Hockey discussion

[juliansteed]

Pretty sure the Lindros year should be 1987

Even then he's not quite 14. I'm thinking 1991.

 

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Even then he's not quite 14. I'm thinking 1991.

lol - I didn't even bother to check his birthdate and do the math. I think you are correct sir.

/I was assuming just a transposition of the last two digits.

 

[forty_three]

There are two reasons I want him to be a Penguin: he's good; watching Leafs fans lose their shit. It won't happen, but still.

Goes without saying.

 

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I sure like that Olli Juolevi kid, if he's still around when the Flames go to the podium, I want to hear his name.

 

[pixburgher66]

Goes without saying.

I'm now envisioning this...lottery happens, the ping pong balls are lining up for Toronto. Down to the final two...Toronto and Pittsburgh. Already Leaf fans are uneasy. They know...they Know they should have both picks. The drama is just so great.

 

[juliansteed]

lol - I didn't even bother to check his birthdate and do the math. I think you are correct sir.

/I was assuming just a transposition of the last two digits.

I thought the same at first but then I remembered 1991 was his draft year so I knew something didn't seem right.

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

There are two reasons I want him to be a Penguin: he's good; watching Leafs fans lose their shit. It won't happen, but still.

I'd be more than fine with taking the Pens' 1st rounder next season instead. Spread out the picks for the rebuild. Hell, right now I'd even like them to trade the package for Drouin.

But having said that, I still think the Pens get into the playoffs. Looks like Sid is waking up, Kessel's scoring, they'll get injured players back etc.

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

I'm now envisioning this...lottery happens, the ping pong balls are lining up for Toronto. Down to the final two...Toronto and Pittsburgh. Already Leaf fans are uneasy. They know...they Know they should have both picks. The drama is just so great.

The Star had a story the other day about the McDavid lotto and the Leafs actually had a much better chance than any other team as of the final ball and one of the Leaf balls was actually headed into the slot but it bounced out at the last second and the Coil ball fell in.

 

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Team Sweden is reporting that William Nylander is done for the tourney.

 

[DragonfromTO]

I'd be more than fine with taking the Pens' 1st rounder next season instead. Spread out the picks for the rebuild. Hell, right now I'd even like them to trade the package for Drouin.

But having said that, I still think the Pens get into the playoffs. Looks like Sid is waking up, Kessel's scoring, they'll get injured players back etc.

You want to know something crazy that I didn't even realize until last night?

Sidney Crosby has 29 points in 37 games and every headline about him is "OMG what happened? He's trash now"

Meanwhile, Jonathan Toews has 24 points in 39 games. The narrative? "OMG he has OT goals and faceoff wins, soooooo clutch best player evar!"

 

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"I thought our team was very well prepared, I thought we had as good a coaching staff at the competition as anyone," Renney said in defending head coach Dave Lowry and his staff. "There's no doubt in my mind that our guys put the time and effort in to have the team ready to go. There is a point in time where that transfer of responsibility goes from the coach to the player. We're talking about teenagers that have to cope and deal with situations in the spontaneity of hockey that sometimes work against you and sometimes don't.


"The bottom line is the coaching staff did an excellent job."

I get that Renney doesn't want to throw anybody under the bus, but this was not a well coached team.

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

You want to know something crazy that I didn't even realize until last night?

Sidney Crosby has 29 points in 37 games and every headline about him is "OMG what happened? He's trash now"

Meanwhile, Jonathan Toews has 24 points in 39 games. The narrative? "OMG he has OT goals and faceoff wins, soooooo clutch best player evar!"

One averages 109 pts per season, the other 72.

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

"I thought our team was very well prepared, I thought we had as good a coaching staff at the competition as anyone," Renney said in defending head coach Dave Lowry and his staff. "There's no doubt in my mind that our guys put the time and effort in to have the team ready to go. There is a point in time where that transfer of responsibility goes from the coach to the player. We're talking about teenagers that have to cope and deal with situations in the spontaneity of hockey that sometimes work against you and sometimes don't.


"The bottom line is the coaching staff did an excellent job."

I get that Renney doesn't want to throw anybody under the bus, but this was not a well coached team.

Agreed, and really when shit goes this far south like it did at this tournament it's probably for the best that coaching falls on the sword rather than try to pass the buck onto a bunch of 18 and 19 year olds.

 

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When Lowry was asked yesterday if he considered pulling Blackwood, he responded, "It never entered my mind".

Really? Not even after that stinky one that tied the game 3-3?

 

[pixburgher66]

You want to know something crazy that I didn't even realize until last night?

Sidney Crosby has 29 points in 37 games and every headline about him is "OMG what happened? He's trash now"

Meanwhile, Jonathan Toews has 24 points in 39 games. The narrative? "OMG he has OT goals and faceoff wins, soooooo clutch best player evar!"

One averages 109 pts per season, the other 72.

You just don't understand leadership, obviously. I actually saw a tweet the other night that said "maybe Crosby just said 'I wonder what would happen if I produced at a Toews level' for a few months." I lol'd. Toews is good, very good, but that teams success has been how it's been built around him and Kane.

 

[pixburgher66]

The Star had a story the other day about the McDavid lotto and the Leafs actually had a much better chance than any other team as of the final ball and one of the Leaf balls was actually headed into the slot but it bounced out at the last second and the Coil ball fell in.

That's just cruel...I mean, missing out hurts, but why even create that visual, hahaha.

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

That's just cruel...I mean, missing out hurts, but why even create that visual, hahaha.

We self-flagellate in these parts as often as possible.

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

You just don't understand leadership, obviously. I actually saw a tweet the other night that said "maybe Crosby just said 'I wonder what would happen if I produced at a Toews level' for a few months." I lol'd. Toews is good, very good, but that teams success has been how it's been built around him and Kane.

They're very different players who do the things they do exceptionally well, and I agree that the team around those two is definitely the reason for those Cups because no two players on earth can win Cups on their own. Pittsburgh is a great example of that.

 

[pixburgher66]

They're very different players who do the things they do exceptionally well, and I agree that the team around those two is definitely the reason for those Cups because no two players on earth can win Cups on their own. Pittsburgh is a great example of that.

Yep, on both counts. People compare them often and cite how Crosby isn't good defensively (really not sure where that comes from?) but never seem to state the large difference in their offensive abilities. Winning makes player infallible I suppose.

 

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I'm sorry to my American friends, but I just can't cheer for a team that is coached by that asshat Ron Wilson.