2016 NBA Off-Season Thread

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

Except a much better scorer lol

Honestly, we don't know what Scottie's numbers would look like had he not played next to the GOAT.

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

Titles: Larry 3, LeBron 3
Seasons: Larry 13, LeBron 13
All-Star Games: Larry 12, LeBron 12
MVP: Larry 3, LeBron 4
fMVP: Larry 2, LeBron 3
All-NBA 1st Team: Larry 9, LeBron 10
Defensive 1st Team: Larry 0, LeBron 5
Scoring Title: Larry 0, LeBron 1
ROY: Larry 1, LeBron 1

Larry: 24/10/6/2/1
LeBron: 27/7/7/2/1

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

Damn. That's closer than I thought. Still give the edge to Lebron though.

Especially since he's not done.

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

this is a joke ya know?

Pippen is not even close to top 20 of all time. Its insulting to LeBron to even mention the 2 in the same sentence. Pippen never led his team to anything- and then BENCHED HIMSELF in the biggest moment of his non-Michael career.

But, he was not Prime Pippen then.

I with you that he is not comparable to Lebron.

But, I also agree with DJ.

Pippen's stats were compromised by playing with Jordan.

How could they not be?

The question is:

Did it help or hurt? Jordan required 3/4 of the attention on defense.

So, it presented a ton of scoring opportunities for others.

 

[Wamu]

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...where did you get that mic, I thought I broke 'em all!?


signed:

 

[Shaqdaddy11]

signed:

 

[tlance]

Yes, because Kyrie was on a shit Cleveland team and Love was on a shit Minnesota team.
You could argue that if Love went to Cleveland without lebron, the Cavs would make the playoffs too.

You could, but their record without LeBron this year was way below .500. So you don't have any evidence to back that up.

 

[RazorsEdge]

But, he was not Prime Pippen then.

I with you that he is not comparable to Lebron.

But, I also agree with DJ.

Pippen's stats were compromised by playing with Jordan.

How could they not be?

The question is:

Did it help or hurt? Jordan required 3/4 of the attention on defense.

So, it presented a ton of scoring opportunities for others.

Pippen had some great stats playing without Jordan, I definitely feel like his individual career accomplishments suffered.

 

[DJ Fieri]

No Etiwanda High basketball camp this year for Darren Collison, suspected of domestic violence

 

[Shaqdaddy11]

Looks like the Lakers won't be meeting with Durant at all. Now they can move on!

While only an idiot wouldn't want him on their team, I feel that if they had him around, it would severely affect the development and growth of Ingram as a player.

Hope they go all out for a Center and supporting cast.

 

[tlance]

Especially since he's not done.

Also, although the stats look similar, LeBron is definitely the better defender of the two AND the pace of play in the 80s was much faster. The average team scored 110 points per game in 1985, that number is around 102 today and was even lower when LeBron's career began. Pace affects stats.

 

[tlance]

Pippen had some great stats playing without Jordan, I definitely feel like his individual career accomplishments suffered.

Definitely. But the flip side of that argument is would he have developed the same way if he did not ever play with Jordan?

I am sure he would have posted better numbers, but I am equally sure he would not have been the league's best (or second best) player for nearly a decade.

 

[Shanemansj13]

Honestly, we don't know what Scottie's numbers would look like had he not played next to the GOAT.

Yep, all we know is the final product from what we saw.

 

[Shanemansj13]

But, he was not Prime Pippen then.

I with you that he is not comparable to Lebron.

But, I also agree with DJ.

Pippen's stats were compromised by playing with Jordan.

How could they not be?

The question is:

Did it help or hurt? Jordan required 3/4 of the attention on defense.

So, it presented a ton of scoring opportunities for others.

You have a point, while Lebron gets most of the attention even when he played with Wade or even Kyrie.

Well we do know without MJ,Pippen in his prime he went for:

22 8.7 and 5.6...a solid season

Then in the playoffs they took the Knicks to 7 and lost in the 2nd round. His playoff stats were:

22.8 8.3 and 4.6

While Lebron averages in the regular season for his career 27 7 and 6.

His playoff averages in his career 28 9 and 7.


We have one season sample size of Pippen in his prime or around it.

 

[DJ Fieri]

Meeting with Dwight Howard another encouraging sign for Celtics

 

[DJ Fieri]

If the Celtics get DH.....it could negate all the good their young coach has done.

DH is a cancer.

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

Huh.....if that's his price tag, keep him because we have his bird rights.

Dudes always make a ton of money the year after being a good Paul understudy.

But, I would love to see him get a chance to start. Kid can score and has a ton of heart.

He'd be excellent for the Bucks, Philly or Nets.


Brad Turner: Rivers looking at big pay raise, maybe $8 million per season, increase from the $3.3 million he made last season with Clippers, per source

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

If the Celtics get DH.....it could negate all the good their young coach has done.

DH is a cancer.

Adam Himmelsbach: Regarding Dwight Howard, hearing that right now Celtics have no plans for aggressive pursuit. Will always listen to see if a price is right.
– via Twitter AdamHimmelsbach

 

[Shaqdaddy11]

Meeting with Dwight Howard another encouraging sign for Celtics

I really really really hope I goes to Boston

 

[DJ Fieri]

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Adam Himmelsbach: Regarding Dwight Howard, hearing that right now Celtics have no plans for aggressive pursuit. Will always listen to see if a price is right.
– via Twitter AdamHimmelsbach

Very smart. I'd LMAO if he settles for less than the 23 million option he had in Houston.