2016-17 NBA Regular Season Thread

[WiggyRuss]

What do you consider The Unibrow (27.8 ppg, 11.7 rebs, 2.2 asts, 1.2 stls, 2.3 blks) & Boogie (22.1 ppg, 13.6 rebs, 3.7 asts, 1.4 stls, 1.0 blk)? You know who isn't an elite C? Tristan Thompson (8.1 pts, 9.7 rebs, 1.0 ast, 0.5 stls, 1.1 blks).

i DEFINITELY dont consider Towns or Davis centers- especially "traditional centers".....shit...how many "traditional centers" are there?-- can you call Marc Gasol a "traditional center" when he is raining triples at nearly 40% and 2nd on his team in assists?

like Brook Lopez- traditional center...Andre Drummond, Rudy Gobert, DeAndre Jordan, Blancote, Adams, Valuncuinas, maybe myles turner and greg monroe? anyone else worth mentioning?

Cousins even plays more the style of a PF then a traditional center.

I think in the NBa the center position as a pure label is pretty irrelevant--- i think its much more accurate- especially with the confluene of pg/sg/combo guards to label players in one of three baskets----

guards
wings
bigs

how many "traditional" point guards are there? how many "traditional centers"--- all you are doing when saying these guys are "traditional" centers or "traditional" point guards is that they are too limited to be versatile- and in todays NBA versatility is the name of the game.

 

[CitySushi]

I remember when I told everyone itt that they depleted their bench to get Durant, and it was going to hurt them.

And I was told that it meant nothing and that superstars win titles.

It means nothing with Durant on the court. Of course it's going to hurt when he's out.

No one was complaining about the bench with him being available. Logic is still sound.

 

[TJL]

It means nothing with Durant on the court. Of course it's going to hurt when he's out.

No one was complaining about the bench with him being available. Logic is still sound.

Durant/Steph both are injury prone, when you deplete your bench to have both of them on your team you're automatically taking a risk just in the fact you know one of them might go down for a good stint.

 

[WiggyRuss]

I remember when I told everyone itt that they depleted their bench to get Durant, and it was going to hurt them.

And I was told that it meant nothing and that superstars win titles.

if there 4 stars are healthy- they hae 4 of the top- at LEAST 20, maybe 4 of the top 15 players in the world....thats enough to win a title...

if one of those 4 guys is hurt- the depth they ravaged to sign Durant really shows up. I mean- who do you trust on that team in the playoffs outside of the top 6 guys? (the 4 stars- Iggy, and livingston).

if all 4 of those guys are not healthy- the Cavs will slaughter them.

 

[TJL]

if there 4 stars are healthy- they hae 4 of the top- at LEAST 20, maybe 4 of the top 15 players in the world....thats enough to win a title...

if one of those 4 guys is hurt- the depth they ravaged to sign Durant really shows up. I mean- who do you trust on that team in the playoffs outside of the top 6 guys? (the 4 stars- Iggy, and livingston).

if all 4 of those guys are not healthy- the Cavs will slaughter them.

The Cavs aren't making it out of the first round.

 

[CitySushi]

Durant/Steph both are injury prone, when you deplete your bench to have both of them on your team you're automatically taking a risk just in the fact you know one of them might go down for a good stint.

If either of them goes down, the Warriors aren't winning a championship anyways. This was the Warriors formula. You don't base on contingencies if your stars get hurt. You do your best to build a team around them and hope for the best.

I guarantee even a deep team like the Cavs would be hurting if they lost Kyrie or Lebron. You can't replace those guys.

 

[TJL]

If either of them goes down, the Warriors aren't winning a championship anyways. This was the Warriors formula. You don't base on contingencies if your stars get hurt. You do your best to build a team around them and hope for the best.

I guarantee even a deep team like the Cavs would be hurting if they lost Kyrie or Lebron. You can't replace those guys.

Well, last year, without Durant and a great bench, Curry went down and they still able to make it to the finals with him hobbling around.

You're right though, this year, if either is hurt, they aren't winning a title and probably won't even get there, because they have no bench.


I completely agree that ultimately superstars win titles, but that doesn't mean the bench is irrelevant, which was my whole argument itt when I said the Warriors are not as good as they were last year because they got rid of a lot of solid role players.

 

[Wamu]

i DEFINITELY dont consider Towns or Davis centers- especially "traditional centers".....shit...how many "traditional centers" are there?-- can you call Marc Gasol a "traditional center" when he is raining triples at nearly 40% and 2nd on his team in assists?

like Brook Lopez- traditional center...Andre Drummond, Rudy Gobert, DeAndre Jordan, Blancote, Adams, Valuncuinas, maybe myles turner and greg monroe? anyone else worth mentioning?

Cousins even plays more the style of a PF then a traditional center.

I think in the NBa the center position as a pure label is pretty irrelevant--- i think its much more accurate- especially with the confluene of pg/sg/combo guards to label players in one of three baskets----

guards
wings
bigs

how many "traditional" point guards are there? how many "traditional centers"--- all you are doing when saying these guys are "traditional" centers or "traditional" point guards is that they are too limited to be versatile- and in todays NBA versatility is the name of the game.

Well according to b-ballref.com Davis is listed as a C. He has played the 4 spot but for the last 2 seasons he's listed as a 5. Also b-ballref.com has Boogie listed as a C as well. And every year of Boogie's career he's listed as a C. But then again by your logic Tristan > Whiteside.

 

[TJL]

I ignore his posts.
Talks a lot of shit, then all he can do is post a picture of the standings.
A trained chimp could be more entertaining here.

Tbh, a trained Chimp wouldn't let me repeatedly knock him into oblivion, so in my humble opinion, Wiggy is more entertaining.

 

[bksballer89]

I remember when I told everyone itt that they depleted their bench to get Durant, and it was going to hurt them.

And I was told that it meant nothing and that superstars win titles.

Yeah it's hurting them now because Durant is out. Once Durant comes back then they'll be fine. Did you not watch the finals? The Cavs bench did nothing. It was Lebron and Kyrie with some Love and Thompson.

You're getting a little too excited over regular season games when Durant is coming back this season. I don't think Warriors fans think they could win a title without Durant with the way the roster is set up so what's happening now is not all that surprising.

 

[Black Adam]

The Cavs aren't making it out of the first round.

lmao you LOVE seeing Waiters in beast mode...

 

[TJL]

Yeah it's hurting them now because Durant is out. Once Durant comes back then they'll be fine. Did you not watch the finals? The Cavs bench did nothing. It was Lebron and Kyrie with some Love and Thompson.

You're getting a little too excited over regular season games when Durant is coming back this season. I don't think Warriors fans think they could win a title without Durant with the way the roster is set up so what's happening now is not all that surprising.

I'm not excited at all, their bench sucks, it's irrefutable, and until Durant is healthy and we see them play a team like the Rockets/Spurs/Cavs/HEAT, we won't actually know whether I'm right, or you're right.

So don't come at me with some arrogant tone like what you're saying is absolute fact, because it is not.

Respect tho playa

 

[CitySushi]

Yeah it's hurting them now because Durant is out. Once Durant comes back then they'll be fine. Did you not watch the finals? The Cavs bench did nothing. It was Lebron and Kyrie with some Love and Thompson.

You're getting a little too excited over regular season games when Durant is coming back this season. I don't think Warriors fans think they could win a title without Durant with the way the roster is set up so what's happening now is not all that surprising.

Even Warriors twitter is freaking out, because there's a ton of bandwagon idiots who don't understand that the team was constructed for a championship. It wasn't to contend for one, it's to win one.

If a major piece goes down, then realistically the Warriors are looking on the outside in. If healthy, they're dominant. Comes with the territory. Overreaction to a lack of bench losing a game in the regular season is kind of short sighted.

 

[TJL]

lmao you LOVE seeing Waiters in beast mode...

Allah bless

Best Muslim the sport has ever seen

thinking about changing my religion from Atheist to Islam, but I'm afraid for my safety here in the US.

 

[TJL]

Even Warriors twitter is freaking out, because there's a ton of bandwagon idiots who don't understand that the team was constructed for a championship. It wasn't to contend for one, it's to win one.

If a major piece goes down, then realistically the Warriors are looking on the outside in. If healthy, they're dominant. Comes with the territory. Overreaction to a lack of bench losing a game in the regular season is kind of short sighted.

They're a worse team than they were last year.

I'd take last years team, with Speights/Barnes/rest of the bench, over this team with Durant.

Just my opinion, they can obviously still win the title, because the Cavs don't really seem to be meshing at all, I don't think the Warriors will match up well with the Heat tho, in the finals.

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

I remember when I told everyone itt that they depleted their bench to get Durant, and it was going to hurt them.

And I was told that it meant nothing and that superstars win titles.

It has meant nothing when Durant is playing.
This losing isn't about missing Bogut or the others, its about missing the 2nd best player in the world.

 

[bksballer89]

I'm not excited at all, their bench sucks, it's irrefutable, and until Durant is healthy and we see them play a team like the Rockets/Spurs/Cavs/HEAT, we won't actually know whether I'm right, or you're right.

So don't come at me with some arrogant tone like what you're saying is absolute fact, because it is not.

Respect tho playa

Their bench do suck. Whoever said otherwise? Point is they needed to make some moves. There was far too much pressure on Steph and Klay to always be at the top of their game in every single game in late may and June. Barbosa, Speights, and Festus were never going to lead them to a title. They needed to make the kind of move they made.

 

[TJL]

Their bench do suck. Whoever said otherwise? Point is they needed to make some moves. There was far too much pressure on Steph and Klay to always be at the top of their game in every single game in late may and June. Barbosa, Speights, and Festus were never going to lead them to a title. They needed to make the kind of move they made.

lol, they had a game 7 on their home court, and would have won the finals if Draymond doesn't get suspended, what the fuck are you talking about?

 

[Black Adam]

They're a worse team than they were last year.

I'd take last years team, with Speights/Barnes/rest of the bench, over this team with Durant.

Just my opinion, they can obviously still win the title, because the Cavs don't really seem to be meshing at all, I don't think the Warriors will match up well with the Heat tho, in the finals.

man stands behind his team. HUGE respect for that...

 

[bksballer89]

They're a worse team than they were last year.

I'd take last years team, with Speights/Barnes/rest of the bench, over this team with Durant.

They're a worse regular season team because in the regular season being deep matters much more than it does in the playoffs. In the playoffs, rotations shrink and you rely on your top guys much more. As I said before this team (once they're healthy) is more capable of winning the title than the team last year. If not for KD/Russ choking in game 6 then they wouldn't have made it to the finals.