2016-17 NBA Regular Season Thread

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

I gave up on the AS game. The last 2 years been awful.

I watched until the Walking Dead came on.

 

[Robotech]

You could be right.

Evans, Mcelmore, Malachi Richardson, Afflao, Galloway, Buddy....

Way too many sg's.

Lmfao....what are the Kings thinking.

LOL, but now they've solved their problem of having too many centers.

 

[WiggyRuss]

They would have needed to stretch Mosgov, wouldn't they?

Or, throw in Deng for salary?

in order to match - yah i could see that- if they could have traded say Ingram, Zubac/Nance etc. (whatever secondary ancillary pieces they would have wanted), and either one of Deng/Mozgov for Cousins and didnt do it- thats a big time failure in my eyes.

If was Ingram and Randle and Mozgov for Cousins- i think that becomes a tougher conversation. IF they could capitlize in free agency it would be basically Randle, Ingram, mozgov for Cousins and free agent X- but thats a risk.

 

[Bolts]

@Bolts you think the Kings buyout Evans?

that would be an interesting "playmaker" for the Cavs to take a look at....i know they kicked the tires on him last year.

Seems like there could be some interesting names available at the buyout deadline for the elite teams to fight over.

should be interesting.

Sounds like that's the plan, but I could also see them keeping him through the rest of the season with the injuries they've had to deal with. I'd rather watch Tyreke Evans for 25 more games as a King over Matt Barnes.

 

[GNG]

The Greek Freak was sensational in the All Star game. He's a beast.

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

He wouldn't know.

Oh.
He knows.
That's why there's the crickets.

If Whiteside would have melted down we would have seen more words then the

 

[Robotech]

Sounds like that's the plan, but I could also see them keeping him through the rest of the season with the injuries they've had to deal with. I'd rather watch Tyreke Evans for 25 more games as a King over Matt Barnes.

But Barnes is a hometown hero (or home area hero since he's from Carmichael). My friend went to school with him and said he was a real jerk. I guess some things never change. Despite that, I've been happy to see him doing well for the team he probably grew up rooting for.

 

[Bolts]

@Bolts

Nothing really to say, so maybe this will make things better.
I'd send you some if you'd like.

If the Pelicans had thrown some of these into the trade offer, I might have been okay with the deal.

 

[Bolts]

There had to have been a better deal that could've been made. If the league is so concerned about competitive balance (like they are with free agency), the NBA should veto this trade. The scales are so unbalanced on this one. Kings go from decent to horrible, while Pelicans go from below average to possibly a major threat to any team, including Cavs, Spurs, and Warriors. It'll be interesting to see how Davis and Boogie work together, but the sky's the limit.

The only downside of the trade for the Pelicans is having 2 dominant bigs in a guard driven league. If their guards can be average, they'll have a chance to be a real threat. I'm hoping Denver makes the playoffs over them though, Kings could really use that 2nd lottery pick right now.

 

[Robotech]

The only downside of the trade for the Pelicans is having 2 dominant bigs in a guard driven league. If their guards can be average, they'll have a chance to be a real threat. I'm hoping Denver makes the playoffs over them though, Kings could really use that 2nd lottery pick right now.

But they are bigs that you can keep on the court in small ball lineups.

 

[Bolts]

But Barnes is a hometown hero (or home area hero since he's from Carmichael). My friend went to school with him and said he was a real jerk. I guess some things never change. Despite that, I've been happy to see him doing well for the team he probably grew up rooting for.

I was more willing for him to be on the team initially because Joerger knew him from Memphis and could possibly keep him in check. After the night club incident and the multiple tech's he's gotten, I've gotten to the point of being okay with letting the hometown hero go. But right now he's their 1 healthy SF on the roster, so I don't see him going anywhere.

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

The only downside of the trade for the Pelicans is having 2 dominant bigs in a guard driven league. If their guards can be average, they'll have a chance to be a real threat. I'm hoping Denver makes the playoffs over them though, Kings could really use that 2nd lottery pick right now.

I see them as a perfect ying to the Warriors yang.

Would be a great contrasting of styles in a 1st round matchup.

Think the Smash Bros in Memphis on crack.

They would still lose without improving their roster.

But, it would be fun.

 

[trojanfan12]

it's the kid's first year...

might wanna give him a LITTLE more time...

Just more proof that Wiggy only looks at box scores. Virtually everyone around the NBA see's Ingram as a potential star...but Wiggy thinks he knows more than they do.

The kid is 19 and rail thin. Of course he was going to struggle in his first season, especially since he's also been playing 2 positions most of the season.

He does seem to have the necessary work ethic to maximize his abilities. Of course, that doesn't mean he will, but he certainly should be given longer than until the ASB in his first season to prove himself.

Having said that, if I were to guess, I'd say that the Kings probably wanted more than just Ingram and the Lakers may not have wanted to risk Boogie's attitude messing up their young roster.

Part of the answer would likely be in who backed away from the deal. If it was the Lakers, then the Kings probably wanted too much in addition to Ingram. If it was the Kings, then the Lakers may have been insisting on including Mozgov or Deng.

 

[Heatles84]

I watched until the Walking Dead came on.

I needed to work on something and stay focused last night. I put the all-star game on to help.

 

[Heatles84]

The Greek Freak was sensational in the All Star game. He's a beast.

I would hope so. Zero defense was played that game.

 

[Bolts]

But they are bigs that you can keep on the court in small ball lineups.

The fact that they can both score from the inside and outside makes the dynamic interesting to watch. I haven't really cared to watch much GSW this season because they usually dominate, but I wanna see how this matchup works out.

 

[trojanfan12]

I gave up on the AS game. The last 2 years been awful.

I still watch it (mainly because there's nothing else on). But, last night may have been my last one. I had considered going to a movie instead of watching the game and about halfway through the 2nd quarter I found myself wishing I had gone to the movie.

 

[WiggyRuss]

Just more proof that Wiggy only looks at box scores. Virtually everyone around the NBA see's Ingram as a potential star...but Wiggy thinks he knows more than they do.

The kid is 19 and rail thin. Of course he was going to struggle in his first season, especially since he's also been playing 2 positions most of the season.

He does seem to have the necessary work ethic to maximize his abilities. Of course, that doesn't mean he will, but he certainly should be given longer than until the ASB in his first season to prove himself.

Having said that, if I were to guess, I'd say that the Kings probably wanted more than just Ingram and the Lakers may not have wanted to risk Boogie's attitude messing up their young roster.

Part of the answer would likely be in who backed away from the deal. If it was the Lakers, then the Kings probably wanted too much in addition to Ingram. If it was the Kings, then the Lakers may have been insisting on including Mozgov or Deng.

this is pretty much the consensus that i have read: that guys like Ingram very rarely rebound from such abysmal starts to be stars.

Ten things I like and don't like, including James Harden's TD passes

It has been a rough season for Ingram. He's shooting 36 percent, and just 30 percent on 3s. He hasn't cracked 20 points in a game yet. Most future franchise players don't start out this way. Some teenagers do, though. Check out Dirk Nowitzki's rookie numbers.

With that implausibly spindly body, Year 1 in the NBA was always going to be a tough. Good news: There are no outward signs that fear, panic, or insecurity have infected Ingram's game. He still plays with a calm confidence. He launches from deep when he's open, and dares to explore the possibilities of a pick-and-roll. He sees the floor well.

He hasn't cowered, or gone the opposite direction and pressed to justify his draft slot. He doesn't take bad shots, or rush into reckless drives ending in fancy no-look dishes. He just plays, and there is something refreshing in that for L.A. fans. Ingram may never be a star, but he should be a good player for a long time.

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

I would hope so. Zero defense was played that game.

Yep.
Stats in that game is as meaningful as the world is flat.

 

[bksballer89]

I still watch it (mainly because there's nothing else on). But, last night may have been my last one. I had considered going to a movie instead of watching the game and about halfway through the 2nd quarter I found myself wishing I had gone to the movie.

I had a event to attend so thankfully I only saw the 1st half