2015-16 NBA Eastern Conference OFFICIAL THREAD

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

Wow...this is harsh!

Sounds like a mutiny.

Report: No Cavaliers veterans liked David Blatt

 

[bksballer89]

Wow...this is harsh!

Sounds like a mutiny.

Report: No Cavaliers veterans liked David Blatt

Started by Lebron

 

[CitySushi]

Blatt definitely has his role in this whole ordeal too. He immediately deferred to Lebron instead of trying to win over the team in general. That was his mistake. If you already know your superstar doesn't buy into the system, especially one that thinks he knows more than you, you don't try to win him over. You win over the other guys. You make it so that the team rallies and can convince your star to change his position.

As a coach your job isn't just to manage minutes, rotations and game plan. It's about managing egos as much as anything else. When Blatt didn't criticize Lebron in film study, that showed the rest of the team that they are beneath Lebron. The team isn't going to take that out on Lebron, they're going to take it out on the coach. When you don't clearly define roles to the Veterans, they're going to get upset.

Blatt's biggest fault is his communication with his players.

 

[gordontrue]

Wow...this is harsh!

Sounds like a mutiny.

Report: No Cavaliers veterans liked David Blatt

I'm always careful to treat Windhorst articles with a grain of salt... but this comes off as measured, careful, and fair... though ultimately just his opinion from what he (Windhorst) observed.

As much as everyone wants to put the complete onus for the lack of a good relationship between coach and players 100% on LeBron (understandable to some degree due to his role as leader).... there were at least 16 other individuals with some responsibility in the failed relationship, including Blatt.

 

[trojanfan12]

I'm always careful to treat Windhorst articles with a grain of salt... but this comes off as measured, careful, and fair... though ultimately just his opinion from what he (Windhorst) observed.

As much as everyone wants to put the complete onus for the lack of a good relationship between coach and players 100% on LeBron (understandable to some degree due to his role as leader).... there were at least 16 other individuals with some responsibility in the failed relationship, including Blatt.

I get what you're saying, but the bulk of the responsibility falls on Lebron's shoulders because of his position within that team. As the leader of the team, it was up to Lebron to accept Blatt as coach and at least give the man a chance. He didn't do that.

For example, while no one is exactly enamored with Byron Scott as the Lakers coach, Kobe has been very supportive of him. The result has been that the young guys have listened and handled what Byron has been doing, even when they don't like it. If Kobe wasn't so supportive, the Lakers might have a mutiny of their own because of Byron's old school style.

That's my biggest issue with this whole thing. Blatt was never given a chance to succeed because Lebron never supported him.

To be completely fair though, some of that blame rests with Blatt as well because he should have recognized what Lebron was doing and called him on it. That would have let Lebron and everyone else know who's coaching the team. By deferring to Lebron and even going as far as changing a play he drew up because Lebron didn't like it and was shaking his head no at him during a timeout, just enabled and emboldened Lebron's behavior.

 

[LAD]

You should have the ability to edit posts for 5 minutes after each post. It shows as a pencil in the lower left hand corner under your avy. If it's not there, you may not have enough posts yet.

Ahh, that's what that is? Thanks for the tip!

I always wondered how a post that I just read would be different after a few minutes had gone by.

 

[trojanfan12]

Ahh, that's what that is? Thanks for the tip!

I always wondered how a post that I just read would be different after a few minutes had gone by.

 

[lakersrule]

A Beasley sighting!!

Beasley being the voice of reason? I've seen it all

 

[LAD]

well obviously he couldnt institute his own systems- if he could we would already have those sets for Love in training camp...i cant wait to see Love playing a little more with the 2nd unit and running things from the elbow....should be fun!

Its already been fun watching them run a little more- i think itll hurt their defense in the short term because of their conditioning- -- but they got a lot of easy baskets in transition yesterday..lets hope it continues!

More pace with LeBron and Irving- and Love will typically be the trailer drilling 3's on the break- AND he will be the focal point of the 2nd unit....its ognna be fun....it might hurt them in the short term a little bit getting all this stuff instituted but itll be good long term!

Well then obviously he wasn't coaching, he was assisting which is what his job was at the time.

 

[LAD]

Blatt definitely has his role in this whole ordeal too. He immediately deferred to Lebron instead of trying to win over the team in general. That was his mistake. If you already know your superstar doesn't buy into the system, especially one that thinks he knows more than you, you don't try to win him over. You win over the other guys. You make it so that the team rallies and can convince your star to change his position.

As a coach your job isn't just to manage minutes, rotations and game plan. It's about managing egos as much as anything else. When Blatt didn't criticize Lebron in film study, that showed the rest of the team that they are beneath Lebron. The team isn't going to take that out on Lebron, they're going to take it out on the coach. When you don't clearly define roles to the Veterans, they're going to get upset.

Blatt's biggest fault is his communication with his players.

I can agree but we don't know what was said to Blatt from the FO once LBJ agreed to go back to Cleveland. I am more inclined to believe they would tell Blatt to "stand down" for lack of a better term- when it came to communication with LBJ-especially in front of the other guys. I just can't see them warning LBJ to take it easy on Blatt though & asking for his patience while he learned how to coach in the league.

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

I'm always careful to treat Windhorst articles with a grain of salt... but this comes off as measured, careful, and fair... though ultimately just his opinion from what he (Windhorst) observed.

As much as everyone wants to put the complete onus for the lack of a good relationship between coach and players 100% on LeBron (understandable to some degree due to his role as leader).... there were at least 16 other individuals with some responsibility in the failed relationship, including Blatt.

Sounds like it was just about everyone. But, if Bron would have been onboard everyone else would probably have followed.

Blatt also didn't do himself any favors.

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

Started by Lebron

Fair or not, yes.

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

Beasley being the voice of reason? I've seen it all

Beasley is always the voice of reason.
Half of his problem is that at times he's said what he felt was the truth vs just saying what some wanted to hear.

 

[bksballer89]

With Atlanta losing to Indy tonight that now means ATL, MIA, BOS, and Detroit are all tied in the loss column

 

[bksballer89]

Wizards lose to Denver. How soon until Wittman is fired?

 

[Black Adam]

Started by Lebron

he don't know shit...remember...?

 

[WiggyRuss]

wow...Stanley Johnson just scored on a drive to end the half and Lebron and TT GOT INTO it...kyrie was trying to mediate....

 

[Bolts]

wow...Stanley Johnson just scored on a drive to end the half and Lebron and TT GOT INTO it...kyrie was trying to mediate....

Lue can't keep his players together, fire him.

 

[trojanfan12]

Lue can't keep his players together, fire him.

Nah, it's Blatt's fault.

 

[bksballer89]

Heat win their 3rd straight work. Funny how soon as we started to get healthy, we began to win again.