2011-2012 offseason plans?

[TKellion]

May be too early but what the hell.Post your wishes for rebuilding our team into a contender this offseason.I dont care if your realistic but others will LOL

 

[TKellion]

POTENTIAL FREE AGENTS
*(OPTION)

First Basemen
Lance Berkman STL
Russell Branyan LAA
Jorge Cantu SD
Prince Fielder MIL
Brad Hawpe SD
Eric Hinske ATL *
Ross Gload PHI
Nick Johnson CLE
Derrek Lee BAL
Xavier Nady ARI
David Ortiz BOS
Lyle Overbay PIT
Carlos Pena CHC
Albert Pujols STL
Jim Thome MIN

Second Basemen
Clint Barmes HOU
Willie Bloomquist ARI *
Orlando Cabrera CLE
Robinson Cano NYY *
Jamey Carroll LAD
Luis Castillo NYM
Alex Cora WAS
Craig Counsell MIL
Mark Ellis OAK
Jerry Hairston Jr. WAS
Aaron Hill TOR *
Omar Infante FLA
Joe Inglett HOU
Kelly Johnson ARI
Adam Kennedy SEA
Felipe Lopez TB
Jose Lopez FLA
Aaron Miles LAD
Brandon Phillips CIN *

Shortstops
Yuniesky Betancourt MIL *
Ronny Cedeno PIT
Adam Everett CLE
Rafael Furcal LAD
Alex Gonzalez ATL
J.J. Hardy BAL
Cesar Izturis BAL
John McDonald TOR
Augie Ojeda ARI
Jose Reyes NYM
Nick Punto STL
Edgar Renteria CIN
Jose Reyes NYM
Jimmy Rollins PHI
Ramon Santiago DET
Marco Scutaro BOS *
Jack Wilson SEA

Third Basemen
Wilson Betemit KC
Casey Blake LAD *
Eric Chavez NYY
Mark DeRosa SF
Greg Dobbs PHI
Edwin Encarnacion TOR *
Wes Helms FLA
Melvin Mora ARI
Aramis Ramirez CHC
Miguel Tejada SF
Omar Vizquel CWS

Catchers
Rod Barajas LAD
Henry Blanco ARI
Ramon Castro CWS
Ryan Doumit PIT
Ramon Hernandez CIN
Jason Kendall KC
Gerald Laird STL
Jose Molina TOR
Yadier Molina STL *
Dioner Navarro LAD
Jorge Posada NYY
Ivan Rodriguez WAS
Brian Schneider PHI
Kelly Shoppach TB *
Chris Snyder PIT *
Matt Treanor KC
Jason Varitek BOS

Outfielders
Bobby Abreu LAA *
Rick Ankiel WAS
Carlos Beltran NYM
Milton Bradley SEA
Pat Burrell SF
Mike Cameron BOS
Coco Crisp OAK
Michael Cuddyer MIN
Jack Cust SEA
Johnny Damon TB
David DeJesus OAK
J.D. Drew BOS
Jeff Francoeur KC *
Kosuke Fukudome CHC
Jonny Gomes CIN
Gabe Gross OAK
Vladimir Guerrero BAL
Carlos Guillen DET
Scott Hairston NYM
Willie Harris NYM
Raul Ibanez PHI
Conor Jackson OAK
Andruw Jones NYY
Austin Kearns CLE
Jason Kubel MIN
Ryan Ludwick SD
Hideki Matsui OAK
Nate McLouth ATL *
Jason Michaels HOU
Laynce Nix WAS
Magglio Ordonez DET
Juan Pierre CWS
Juan Rivera TOR
Cody Ross SF
Grady Sizemore CLE *
Matt Stairs WAS
Nick Swisher NYY *
Marcus Thames LAD
Josh Willingham OAK

 

[TKellion]

I dont want to spend on any pricey FAs.

-Tender Sandoval,Scheirholtz,J Sanchez,Fontenot-Non tender Torres then give him the chance to come back on a cheap contract

-Offer Vogelsong a 2/8 to buy out his arbitration years

-Let Derosa,Cabrera,Ross,Burrell,Stewert and Whiteside walk

-There will be cheap options to fill holes from other clubs non tenders as well as a possible trade

-Keep our pitching staff, Rotation-Lincecum,Cain,Bumgarner,Vogelsong,Surkamp/Sanchez-bullpen Wilson,Romo,Lopez,Ramirez,Casilla,Runzler,Edlefson ,Zito-Let Mota walk excersize the buyout option on Affeldt

CF-?,Torres or trade or cheap FA
RF-Schierholts
C-Posey
3B-Sandoval
1B-Pill
LF-Belt
2B- Sanchez
SS- Crawford
P- Lincecum

Bench:
OF-cheap FA
IF-Fontenot
1B-Huff
C-Sanchez
UT-cheap FA

I would love to see a J Sanchez for G Sizemore swap to fill CF but I dont want to spend on FAs cept for 1 year cheap deals to give guys like Brown,Panik,Dominguez,Peguero,Adrianza and others a chance to rise to the ML level and earn a spot.The big splash predictions I leave to the rest of you

 

[calsnowskier]

I would be against a 2/8 for Vogey. He wavered at the end of the year and has not shown NEAR enough to lock up that kind of scratch. I think a 2/5 should be MORE than enough. Have we forgotten Torres already?

I would be THRILLED to see if they can ink DeRo for a cheap (1/3) deal.

If PTMFB can play, and there is still a spot for a 5th OF at the end of the off season, offer him a 1/1. If not, make him a roving coach (hell, maybe boot BamBam and keep him on the big team there) and fully indoctrinate him into the Giants Alumni Association.

Stewie gets a 1/.75 deal. Take it or leave it. Chez3 will do fine as the backup if needed.

Ross is non-tendered. Try to sign him to a 1/3 OR wait until the end of the off-season and invite him to ST as a non-roster invitee (giving him one of those out-clauses).

Cabrera and Whitey need to RUN through the door, because it will close fast, and they really dont want it hitting them in the ass on the way out.

Torres AT BEST gets a non-roster invite.

 

[OzzieGiant]

Where do people think JJ Hardy will end up and at what price - I would take him over Rollins

 

[filosofy29]

Where do people think JJ Hardy will end up and at what price - I would take him over Rollins

He re-upped with Baltimore for 3 more years iirc.

 

[TKellion]

Where do people think JJ Hardy will end up and at what price - I would take him over Rollins

Actually I forgot to drop him off the list.Orioles exstended him:ballchain:

 

[calsnowskier]

Actually I forgot to drop him off the list.Orioles exstended him:ballchain:

Berkman re-upped with the birdies as well, I believe...

 

[Heathbar012]

He re-upped with Baltimore for 3 more years iirc.

Aw, what might've been if Sabean had listened to tzill and snatched up Hardy over MigE6. It was around this time last year that Mr. Zill convinced me JJ would be a better and cheaper fit than Jhonny Peralta. So goes it. Now Bring Him Susac!

 

[filosofy29]

What do you think the Giants would have to part with to get J.J. Hardy? Would J. Sanchez and a B Prospect get it done?

 

[calsnowskier]

What do you think the Giants would have to part with to get J.J. Hardy? Would J. Sanchez and a B Prospect get it done?

Baltimore JUST signed his extension. He ain't going no where...

 

[Heathbar012]

Baltimore JUST signed his extension. He ain't going no where...

Come on. The ink is dry!

 

[OzzieGiant]

Actually I forgot to drop him off the list.Orioles exstended him:ballchain:

Ok thanks makes sense was suprised no one was talking about him

 

[tzill]

Aw, what might've been if Sabean had listened to tzill and snatched up Hardy over MigE6. It was around this time last year that Mr. Zill convinced me JJ would be a better and cheaper fit than Jhonny Peralta. So goes it. Now Bring Him Susac!

They all eventually come around to see my brilliance....

 

[SF11704]

Since we can 'make stuff up' .....
I think we can't get much of anything without trading something of value ....
Let's say we go to Cleveland and ask about Cabrera (SS) and Sizemore (CF). Sizemore had an off year. He's better than his numbers this year. The question is - what would we be willing to make a deal similar to that. Cleveland needs pitching -

 

[tzill]

I think it'll be Cuddyer and Rollins. Both should be available on 2/16 type deals.

But, I may be wrong on that.....

 

[msgkings322]

Since we can 'make stuff up' .....
I think we can't get much of anything without trading something of value ....
Let's say we go to Cleveland and ask about Cabrera (SS) and Sizemore (CF). Sizemore had an off year. He's better than his numbers this year. The question is - what would we be willing to make a deal similar to that. Cleveland needs pitching -

You'd maybe have a shot at Sanchez and Christian and Pill for Sizemore.

But Cabrera? Whatchoo smokin'? He's arguably the best SS in the AL.

 

[Stokes1931]

You'd maybe have a shot at Sanchez and Christian and Pill for Sizemore.

But Cabrera? Whatchoo smokin'? He's arguably the best SS in the AL.

From TK's original post:

I dont care if your realistic but others will LOL

We are talking about wishful thinking, right?

 

[TKellion]

CF-Peguero
2B-Gillaspie
C-Posey
3B-Sandoval
LF-Belt
1B-Pill
RF-Schierholtz
SS-Crawford.......Sabean and Bochy using last 2 games to evaluate so will Gillaspie be OD 2B if Sanchez not ready?No type A FAs please.They have been doin such a good job with our early draft picks.I dont want to give away a 1st.

 

[msgkings322]

CF-Peguero
2B-Gillaspie
C-Posey
3B-Sandoval
LF-Belt
1B-Pill
RF-Schierholtz
SS-Crawford.......Sabean and Bochy using last 2 games to evaluate so will Gillaspie be OD 2B if Sanchez not ready?No type A FAs please.They have been doin such a good job with our early draft picks.I dont want to give away a 1st.

That might be the lineup come the ASB, but Huff will get a chance to start 2012 at 1B.

And I have to think, just to keep Tim and Matt and Bum from blowing gaskets, that they will spend at least SOME money on FAs, like Crisp and/or Rollins. Also, where's Freddy Sanchez?