Well heres OU's new Defensive staff

wazzu31 · Jan 16, 2019

You guys got Manning too? Wow, a big fuck you Oklahoma. Grinch and Manning are what made our defense full of little guys good.

4down20 · Jan 17, 2019

romeo212000 said:
Well I would certainly see we’ve been under performing for our talent level. That’s all coaching and culture.

Chasing stars didn't work out so well for Mack Brown.

Codaxx · Jan 17, 2019

4down20 said:
Chasing stars didn't work out so well for Mack Brown.

Really? National title and 10 years or something of 10 wins or more. Guy is in the hall of fame. Yes, sucked to be Mack Brown.

romeo212000 · Jan 17, 2019

4down20 said:
Chasing stars didn't work out so well for Mack Brown.

Deep Creek · Jan 17, 2019

Jtrain80 said:
The talent has to pan out also. 5* athletes w 2* brains & attitude happen all the time

Then why recruit them?

Deep Creek · Jan 17, 2019

4down20 said:
At the end, chasing stars didn't work out so well for Mack Brown.

It worked okay for a while. :fify:

At the end, not only did it not work out, it was a complete disaster.

Codaxx · Jan 17, 2019

Deep Creek said:
It worked okay for a while.

At the end, not only did it not work out, it was a complete disaster.

That happens to most coaches. If you stay at a place for 10 years that is pretty much a home run for any coach. I am not a huge Mack fan, but the guy had a great career as a coach.

romeo212000 · Jan 17, 2019

Codaxx said:
That happens to most coaches. If you stay at a place for 10 years that is pretty much a home run for any coach. I am not a huge Mack fan, but the guy had a great career as a coach.

Yep. He just got complacent and comfortable.

Deep Creek · Jan 17, 2019

Codaxx said:
That happens to most coaches. If you stay at a place for 10 years that is pretty much a home run for any coach. I am not a huge Mack fan, but the guy had a great career as a coach.

romeo212000 said:
Yep. He just got complacent and comfortable.

Think Mack will be better at UNC than than what happened in the latter years at Texas?

Shanemansj13 · Jan 17, 2019

drbuck10 said:
Like I said, I wouldn't put TOO much stock into this season to say he can't be very successful(he did well at Washington State). I don't think he's a great recruiter though and he didn't put much effort into recruiting Texas(which has recently become a Buckeye pipeline and a DEFINITE OU pipeline). Hell we even had a prospect beg Ohio State to recruit him since Grinch didn't even attempt to:

5-star prospect asks Ohio State to recruit him after Grinch exit

Yeah a lot of Buckeye fans aren't too high on Grinch and I can see why.

romeo212000 · Jan 17, 2019

Shanemansj13 said:
Yeah a lot of Buckeye fans aren't too high on Grinch and I can see why.

A lot of buckeye fans are like every other college fan base and have ignorant and uninformed opinions. Your defense was bad last year, so let’s blame the guy who spent one year on campus and wasn’t calling plays and who’s schemes weren’t being used.

Codaxx · Jan 17, 2019

Deep Creek said:
Think Mack will be better at UNC than than what happened in the latter years at Texas?

No. I think the game has just passed him

Deep Creek · Jan 17, 2019

Codaxx said:
No. I think the game has just passed him

A few of these "old successful coaches" at new schools have worked out a little, but not many.

I just don't see Mack or Miles working out at the new places. We shall see.

Codaxx · Jan 17, 2019

Deep Creek said:
A few of these "old successful coaches" at new schools have worked out a little, but not many.

I just don't see Mack or Miles working out at the new places. We shall see.

I think they generally work out for what the programs want. I think hiring a name guy as a coach is more a message to recruits and the media that “we care about football”. Brings media in. It worked for South Carolina. Holts brought them to respectability

4down20 · Jan 17, 2019

Codaxx said:
Really? National title and 10 years or something of 10 wins or more. Guy is in the hall of fame. Yes, sucked to be Mack Brown.

And then Saban broke him and your program has been broke since.

And at that time, Saban had 0 #1 recruiting classes.

Codaxx · Jan 17, 2019

4down20 said:
And then Saban broke him and your program has been broke since.

And at that time, Saban had 0 #1 recruiting classes.

You make me laugh. Just admit you said something stupid. It certainly isn’t the first time and I am 100% positive it won’t be the last.

4down20 · Jan 17, 2019

Codaxx said:
You make me laugh. Just admit you said something stupid. It certainly isn’t the first time and I am 100% positive it won’t be the last.

I'm not changing my opinion that chasing stars is what killed Mack Brown or Texas, and I really don't give a shit if you agree with that or not.

Gene Chizick has won a national championship, so fucking what.

Codaxx · Jan 17, 2019

4down20 said:
I'm not changing my opinion that chasing stars is what killed Mack Brown or Texas, and I really don't give a shit if you agree with that or not.

Gene Chizick has won a national championship, so fucking what.

Guy is in the fall of fame, so hard to say something killed him. Chasing stars didn’t kill Brown. You are simply talking out your ass per usual

4down20 · Jan 17, 2019

Codaxx said:
Guy is in the fall of fame, so hard to say something killed him. Chasing stars didn’t kill Brown. You are simply talking out your ass per usual

From 2013, the year he was run off and could have paid Saban $10 million if you wanted, but as usual didn't.

Mack Brown a game-changer in recruiting

The Longhorns have landed 51 ESPN 150 recruits since 2009 and 77 four- and five-star recruits since 2010. Brown's 2013 roster had just as many former four-star recruits as Alabama.

And yet you went 8-5 that year. You had talent and after Texas lost to Alabama, they no longer had a clue what to do with it. And if you go back to what I was responding to in the first damn place, it was a discussion about Oklahoma having good talent and poor results.

So say what you want, don't care - not changing my position. Yes I know you won a national championship with Vince Young, and Gene Chizik won a national championship with Cam Newton. That doesn't take away the rest of their careers.

Codaxx · Jan 17, 2019

4down20 said:
From 2013, the year he was run off and could have paid Saban $10 million if you wanted, but as usual didn't.

Mack Brown a game-changer in recruiting

And yet you went 8-5 that year. You had talent and after Texas lost to Alabama, they no longer had a clue what to do with it. And if you go back to what I was responding to in the first damn place, it was a discussion about Oklahoma having good talent and poor results.

So say what you want, don't care - not changing my position. Yes I know you won a national championship with Vince Young, and Gene Chizik won a national championship with Cam Newton. That doesn't take away the rest of their careers.

Your position is always the same. Say something ignorant and when called out “well, Saban beat him”. It’s like arguing with a child, it always ends up “my dad can beat up your dad”

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