What Should be Roughing the passer

Guys are just going to have to get used to the fact that putting a hurt on someone is no longer going to be considered a legitimate part of the game... and that's everywhere on the field. Nearly all of it is completely unnecessary to make the play.

These guys know what they're doing, but they've been doing it that way for so long it will take awhile to get used to it. Even Matthews hit, which I think should not have been a penalty, he could have avoided landing directly on him while making that play. But that's just been an intentional part of the deal for so long it's instinctual.

Vegas said:

This is what roughing the passer looks like:

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well if this was like Baseball, the bears defense should have gone & spiked the Packers QB. (using a 5th string DLineman of course)

shopson67 said:

They're trying to keep the starting QBs healthy. Nobody wants to watch a Glennon/Dobbs Monday night game.

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I get that. But it's now to the point where QBS need to wear flags or touch sensors. I don't want to watch football where you can't actually play football. I don't care who the QBS are if I'm watching flag football.

Mac_Bridger said:

I get that. But it's now to the point where QBS need to wear flags or touch sensors. I don't want to watch football where you can't actually play football. I don't care who the QBS are if I'm watching flag football.

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Flags may be the only way they can make this work.

eaglesnut said:

The Eagles’ front four has been a buzzsaw

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HAHAHAHA

This could almost be classified as a sexual assault

If they really don't want their QBs getting hurt, they should go back to making them wear shoulder pads.

Ideally, my guidelines for RTP calls would be:

1. No blatantly hitting the QB via tackling or an obvious hard shove type of motion to knock him down after he has clearly thrown the football. If a defender is already in the process of starting the dive of a tackle on the QB as the QB is releasing, the defender is not flagged. The flag only results from this if the defender could have reasonably seen that the ball was completely out of the hands of the QB before delivering a hit. Light pushes done as a means of slowing down momentum would not be called, and a QB flopping around like a fish out of water from such would not draw a flag just for theatrics.

2. No intentional helmet to helmet contact, just like hitting/tackling any other player. Don't call anything that looks like incidental contact.

3. QB slides make a QB off limits and the run is considered over as the QB begins the slide, as the per the current rules. But don't call defenders for lightly tapping/brushing against a QB during a slide. Only call legit intentional contact that occurs during QB slides.

4. Blatant late hits on the QB that is clearly targeting them with the intention of causing damage and not just making a play should result in the standard RTP penalty, plus the ejection from the game and 2 game suspensions of the defenders who do it. Up suspensions to 4, 6, 8, 16 games and finally banishment from the league for repeat offenders. One of the most classic examples I can think of is the high-low hit on Favre in the 2009 NFC Championship by the Ayodele and McCray of the Saints, which was wrongfully not called at all. Another I can think of is that time that Joyner of the Rams blatantly knocked Teddy Bridgewater out with an elbow to the head when he was sliding. I'm sure everyone can think of plenty of examples from their own teams.

5. Make the calls consistently for all QB's across the board, none of the obvious favoritism we've seen for so long.


Not very realistic, but that's how I'd generally determine RTP calls.

Hank Kingsley said:

Talk about whatever the fuck you want.

I say everybody does it so why not QBs.

I don't care.

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So what do you consider roughing the passer?

When a rule waters down the game to the point. A penalty has more of an impact on the game than the players. You should care.Do you think teams shouldn't be allowed to play defense. This is supposed to be professional football......

If you have bad breath like Clay Mathews, then getting within 12 ft of the QB should be a penalty. Its gross.

Wazmankg said:

Guys are just going to have to get used to the fact that putting a hurt on someone is no longer going to be considered a legitimate part of the game... and that's everywhere on the field. Nearly all of it is completely unnecessary to make the play.

These guys know what they're doing, but they've been doing it that way for so long it will take awhile to get used to it. Even Matthews hit, which I think should not have been a penalty, he could have avoided landing directly on him while making that play. But that's just been an intentional part of the deal for so long it's instinctual.

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Well, that's what I thought the last time I made a pass at a girl. Talk about roughing the passer!!!

I didn't read this whole thread, but this is my take.

1. There should be no foul for hand grazing the QB's helmet. If there was a solid shot to the head and looked malicious definitely call it.

2. If you hit a QB between the shoulder pads, and above the knees and the defensive player keeps his head up (not launching or using the crown of his helmet) then it is not a penalty.

3. If the defender runs straight into the QB with his head up and lands on the QB, no penalty as that is the least likely way a QB will ever get hurt getting hit. Yes, it is weight landing on him, but as long as he is not picked up and driven into the ground with the shoulder of the defender, it should never be a penalty.

4. If you grab a QB, have complete control of him, and the defensive player picks the QB up and throws him to the ground like he is throwing him out of a WWF ring, that is a penalty.

5. If a defensive player picks a QB up, and body slams him to the ground with his weight landing on him, that is a penalty.

6. If the defensive player launches himself at the QB while he is in the pocket and makes contact with the front or side of the calves that is a penalty. However, if he hits the QB from behind below the knees it is okay because that is the direction in which the knees bend, so less likely to sustain injury. If the QB is outside the pocket running with the football, normal rules now apply to him as any RB with the ball.

7. Facemasks, crown of the helmet hits and all normal rules still apply.

Eliminate the "roughing the passer" penalty altogether. The quarterback is a football player and penalties against him should be consistent with penalties to other players. Illegal hits fall under "personal foul/unnecessary roughness".

Judge Fudge said:

What should the Penalty be because it is so controversial right now?

I want input from other fans so @Rex Racer , @NWPATSFAN ,@Chewbaccer

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Unless there is blood....no foul.