Nick Saban blocking transfers

[TrustMeIamRight]

So a special request by 1 player > all the other players on the team?

All other players on the team aren't asking for a transfer

 

[4down20]

What does it matter really? I mean is this guy gonna be a game changer on the field? Utah let Steve Tu'ikolovatu transfer to USC. Alabama was runner up to sign him. He will play this year. Same division in the conference.

He was a starter/got playing time for Alabama since he was a true freshman.

 

[4down20]

All other players on the team aren't asking for a transfer

But he's not supposed to act in the best interest of the team?

There is a reason these rules exist. Is everyone in the future supposed to be allowed to leave on a whim and change teams without sitting out a year?

 

[MarkOU]

What does it matter really? I mean is this guy gonna be a game changer on the field? Utah let Steve Tu'ikolovatu transfer to USC. Alabama was runner up to sign him. He will play this year. Same division in the conference.

That's my whole point. You are not going to play Georgia. There is a chance of course both teams have to make the SEC title game which that isn't set in stone. Add that to the fact that they allowed another player to go to Missouri.

This runs deeper. I think, IMO, Saban has plans for this guy. To play certain downs, certain situations and if he leaves, then that fucks shit up. Makes his D vulnerable in some situations. It's out of self interest on Sabans part that he is not allowing the waiver. He wants to force him to sit a year or stay and serve Lord Saban. It's leverage.

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

So a special request by 1 player > all the other players on the team?

Also, as you've said REPEATEDLY on here. At Bama, scholarships are only 1 year at a time. If Saban or any coach with one year scholarships can pull it from a player. The player should have every right to walk away and transfer whenever they want.

This isn't jail. This is college.

And before you say UM would do the same. We let a sophomore OL (that earned all-b1g honors) transfer to OHIO STATE, because he was unhappy with the new coach hired. It'd be like Bama granting a transfer to an all-SEC linemen to Auburn or LSU

 

[4down20]

Also, as you've said REPEATEDLY on here. At Bama, scholarships are only 1 year at a time. If Saban or any coach with one year scholarships can pull it from a player. The player should have every right to walk away and transfer whenever they want.

This isn't jail. This is college.

And before you say UM would do the same. We let a sophomore OL (that earned all-b1g honors) transfer to OHIO STATE, because he was unhappy with the new coach hired. It'd be like Bama granting a transfer to an all-SEC linemen to Auburn or LSU

You can't prevent players from transfering. Of issue is if they have to sit out a year or not. He can play for Georgia if he wants - in 2017, not 2016.

The best part of all this - Kirby Smart wouldn't even let a guy transfer to Miami. But Saban is the bad guy - as always.

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

But he's not supposed to act in the best interest of the team?

There is a reason these rules exist. Is everyone in the future supposed to be allowed to leave on a whim and change teams without sitting out a year?

If they can graduate early. Yes. They can transfer and play immediately. If they haven't graduated. They sit out a year, pay their own tuition for that year and play the following year.

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

You can't prevent players from transfering. Of issue is if they have to sit out a year or not. He can play for Georgia if he wants - in 2017, not 2016.

The best part of all this - Kirby Smart wouldn't even let a guy transfer to Miami. But Saban is the bad guy - as always.

Either he can graduate or he can't. That is a NCAA rule, not a SEC rule. Bama can't grant him college credits for classes he hasn't taken. So he either took the classes required to graduate or he didn't. If he did -- he can play next year. If he didn't, he has to sit out a year.

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

You can't prevent players from transfering. Of issue is if they have to sit out a year or not. He can play for Georgia if he wants - in 2017, not 2016.

The best part of all this - Kirby Smart wouldn't even let a guy transfer to Miami. But Saban is the bad guy - as always.

You can prevent them from transferring to certain schools or within the conference. If you are school who chooses to do 1 year scholarships, you should lose all of those rights and should have no say where a player transfers too.

The school has guaranteed them nothing but one year. If they play that one year, it should be the players choice if they want to continue at the school and go elsewhere. If coaches can decide to pull a scholarship on a year to year basis -- the players should have the choice to accept or not accept the scholarship on a year to year basis.

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

You can't prevent players from transfering. Of issue is if they have to sit out a year or not. He can play for Georgia if he wants - in 2017, not 2016.

The best part of all this - Kirby Smart wouldn't even let a guy transfer to Miami. But Saban is the bad guy - as always.

This isn't even about graduating or not. I just read the guy is graduating this month. And after reading how ridiculous the Bama players have been -- throwing his clothes in the trash, texting him not to show up at the facility, lunch, etc. you'd think they would just grant him his release and let him go to any school.

I don't even see the big deal about letting him go to Georgia. Bama doesn't even play them this year and It isn't like he will give Georgia some secret info on Bama they don't have already -- Kirby Smart is their damn coach. If they are worried about players leaving in bunches if they let one guy do it. There are serious issues with the program then. Seems pretty simple to me -- if you have graduated, you can go wherever you'd like to play your last year of eligibility.

 

[trojanfight]

If it's true someone threw out all his stuff and he can't work out at facility and all that I don't see how you come back from that.

 

[Texas Jefe]

Sounds like a Saban and KirbySmart turf battle to me

or is that pissin match...

 

[4down20]

This isn't even about graduating or not. I just read the guy is graduating this month. And after reading how ridiculous the Bama players have been -- throwing his clothes in the trash, texting him not to show up at the facility, lunch, etc. you'd think they would just grant him his release and let him go to any school.

I don't even see the big deal about letting him go to Georgia. Bama doesn't even play them this year and It isn't like he will give Georgia some secret info on Bama they don't have already -- Kirby Smart is their damn coach. If they are worried about players leaving in bunches if they let one guy do it. There are serious issues with the program then. Seems pretty simple to me -- if you have graduated, you can go wherever you'd like to play your last year of eligibility.

He can go to any school.

Just how dumb are you?

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

He can go to any school.

Just how dumb are you?

If that is the case -- I'm sure we will be reading how Saban and Bame will allow him to go play for Georgia without sitting out a year, since he will be a graduate transfer and Bama doesn't even play Georgia.

 

[4down20]

If that is the case -- I'm sure we will be reading how Saban and Bame will allow him to go play for Georgia without sitting out a year, since he will be a graduate transfer and Bama doesn't even play Georgia.

Nope.

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

Nope.

Saban isn't a cut throat coach -- no way would he deny granting a waiver for a graduate transfer to play immediately for a team Bama doesn't even play.

Smith can just come back to Bama -- Saban will hand out internal discipline to the players who threw all his locker belongings and personal items in the trash, as well as the guys who sent him text messages saying not to show his face at the facilities or lunch.

 

[4down20]

Saban isn't a cut throat coach -- no way would he deny granting a waiver for a graduate transfer to play immediately for a team Bama doesn't even play.

Smith can just come back to Bama -- Saban will hand out internal discipline to the players who threw all his locker belongings and personal items in the trash, as well as the guys who sent him text messages saying not to show his face at the facilities or lunch.

He can go to 113 teams in the college football world if he wants to play this year, or he can sit out a year.

As is the norm.

He's not getting any special waiver is what this is about. And it looks to me like him and his mom are trying to use the media to get their way, so fuck em even more.

He was a significant players on our team and waits until 3 months before the season starts to transfer, after the Alabama staff has trained him during the spring, spent the resources for that, gameplanned this season expecting to be here, and then he just bails on them. And the reward for that is supposed to be Alabama saying - oh yeah sure, you just screwed over the team but here you can go play for another SEC team right away.

If anything Saban is being pretty generous allowing him to transfer to any non SEC school after this. He completely blindsided everyone.

Oh, and it's looking like his claims of having his stuff thrown in the trash and not being able to use the facilities is bullshit. Here's a picture of him working out with the DB's after all the stuff supposedly happened.

 

[ralphiewvu]

So a special request by 1 player > all the other players on the team?

Ahh was Saban not doing that by allowing the kid to transfer to mizzou without missing a year?

But hell no to another kid (more talented) that wants to go to Georgia?

It's 100% hypocritical to pick and choose who can go where when the same standards don't apply to all.

 

[ralphiewvu]

In a sense, it's true. Too good for most. Not all. Pandering with the dolts a couple times a month may provide some comedy.

Oregon 2014 13-2, you didn't leave this site

Oregon 2015 9-4, you stopped posting

I swear it's the darndest thing.

 

[4down20]

Ahh was Saban not doing that by allowing the kid to transfer to mizzou without missing a year?

But hell no to another kid (more talented) that wants to go to Georgia?

It's 100% hypocritical to pick and choose who can go where when the same standards don't apply to all.

Chris Black wouldn't be getting playing time, so it makes sense.

Mo would get playing time, and is screwing the team over by doing this. Why should Saban cut him a favor beyond allowing him to go anywhere other than an SEC team.

If people want to change the rules, then change the rules. Otherwise, as this is what happens the majority of time, I'm going to think it's just people crying because it's Saban.