Post Game - Saints @ Skins

[Caliskinsfan]

Glad he's improving for his back up role

 

[Caliskinsfan]

That's Long there...

 

[Caliskinsfan]

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

I really hope Browner is getting called out in New Orleans. What he did, in a 14-14 game, was one of the dumbest plays I can remember.

 

[SoCalWizFan]

I really hope Browner is getting called out in New Orleans. What he did, in a 14-14 game, was one of the dumbest plays I can remember.

He is being called out everywhere. Check out some of the comments from Saints fans in some of the articles on this play. Most of the fans appear to hate the guy - not just for this incident but the numerous other incidents for this clown. His coach also called him out. Seahawks fans also are not fond of this guy.

Remember the Redskins tried to sign this guy twice - thank God they never did.

 

[skinsdad62]

If you offer KC a contract today, you offer him 3 years at 15 million with 7 guaranteed. You tell him he IS the starting QB from day one next season in the process. He may take it...he may not. But the offer is there.

What would a Kirk Cousins contract extension look like?

GK your offer would be borderline ridiculous and flat out insulting . no agent would take that deal

The market is likely to force Cousins to take less per season than most starting quarterbacks will make (a deal averaging $12 million per year would rank 21st among quarterbacks) but he won’t sign a long-term deal at that price. And he will want some incentives and escalators in case he does outperform the contract.

Putting all of that together, we’re looking at something in the neighborhood of three years in the $35-$40 million range with about $15 million guaranteed. Throw in the possibility of adding a couple of million per year in incentives and make the third year void if Cousins plays well and you have the outlines of a deal.

Some of you who are not sold on Cousins as the answer for the future might think that $40 million is an outrageous amount of money to pay him. But quarterbacks are expensive and they are expensive because of simple economics—the demand exceeds the supply. If you don’t pay Cousins, the question becomes who do you pay?


that contract would make him the 21st highest paid qb in the NFL and you want to pay him less then half of that ? huh ? come on wake up and put up some realistic numbers

 

[Caliskinsfan]

What about a reasonable one year extension right now?

 

[gkekoa]

What would a Kirk Cousins contract extension look like?

GK your offer would be borderline ridiculous and flat out insulting . no agent would take that deal

The market is likely to force Cousins to take less per season than most starting quarterbacks will make (a deal averaging $12 million per year would rank 21st among quarterbacks) but he won’t sign a long-term deal at that price. And he will want some incentives and escalators in case he does outperform the contract.

Putting all of that together, we’re looking at something in the neighborhood of three years in the $35-$40 million range with about $15 million guaranteed. Throw in the possibility of adding a couple of million per year in incentives and make the third year void if Cousins plays well and you have the outlines of a deal.

Some of you who are not sold on Cousins as the answer for the future might think that $40 million is an outrageous amount of money to pay him. But quarterbacks are expensive and they are expensive because of simple economics—the demand exceeds the supply. If you don’t pay Cousins, the question becomes who do you pay?


that contract would make him the 21st highest paid qb in the NFL and you want to pay him less then half of that ? huh ? come on wake up and put up some realistic numbers

How is that not realistic? He has proven nothing to this point. If he goes elsewhere, he may not even be guaranteed a starting job. That is more than Fitzpatrick and McCown...it is less than Foles because it should be. When KC has a run of 27 TDs and 2 INTs...then talk to me.

I said as of now...if we offered him a contract now...it should be on the level of McCown. If he plays well the rest of the year, the contract we offer will have to be quite a bit higher. If he falls back down to Earth, he may not get much of a contract at all and no guarantee of a starting gig. He plays against much better competition in the weeks to come.

People like you said we should pay Riley 7 million per season.

 

[Sportster 72]

What about a reasonable one year extension right now?

If I was Cousin's agent and you offered me a one year deal I am talking to every team that needs a QB. Houston, Rams, Browns, Jets and I am probably forgetting two or three. Unless he bombs the last 7 games someone is going to pay him

I believe a three year deal that you can get out of in two years is the way to go.

 

[SoCalWizFan]

Some folks seem to be forgetting that this is these guys livelihood & their window of opportunity to earn a lot of money is short. Sure Cousins would love to stay with the Redskins and grow with this team. However - that won't necessarily be the case if they lowball him, and yes there will be at least one team (rightly or wrongly) that will offer him more if this situation occurs. It is naive to believe otherwise (unless Cousins has a horrible remainder of the season).

BTW - as for the comparison to Foles - you mean the same Foles that was just benched? The same Foles who is putting up poor numbers rt now & has thus far save for that one great year w/ the Eagles?

 

[ehb5]

What would a Kirk Cousins contract extension look like?

GK your offer would be borderline ridiculous and flat out insulting . no agent would take that deal

The market is likely to force Cousins to take less per season than most starting quarterbacks will make (a deal averaging $12 million per year would rank 21st among quarterbacks) but he won’t sign a long-term deal at that price. And he will want some incentives and escalators in case he does outperform the contract.

Putting all of that together, we’re looking at something in the neighborhood of three years in the $35-$40 million range with about $15 million guaranteed. Throw in the possibility of adding a couple of million per year in incentives and make the third year void if Cousins plays well and you have the outlines of a deal.

Some of you who are not sold on Cousins as the answer for the future might think that $40 million is an outrageous amount of money to pay him. But quarterbacks are expensive and they are expensive because of simple economics—the demand exceeds the supply. If you don’t pay Cousins, the question becomes who do you pay?


that contract would make him the 21st highest paid qb in the NFL and you want to pay him less then half of that ? huh ? come on wake up and put up some realistic numbers

I'm with GK. That's right about where it should be.

 

[ehb5]

What would a Kirk Cousins contract extension look like?

GK your offer would be borderline ridiculous and flat out insulting . no agent would take that deal

The market is likely to force Cousins to take less per season than most starting quarterbacks will make (a deal averaging $12 million per year would rank 21st among quarterbacks) but he won’t sign a long-term deal at that price. And he will want some incentives and escalators in case he does outperform the contract.

Putting all of that together, we’re looking at something in the neighborhood of three years in the $35-$40 million range with about $15 million guaranteed. Throw in the possibility of adding a couple of million per year in incentives and make the third year void if Cousins plays well and you have the outlines of a deal.

Some of you who are not sold on Cousins as the answer for the future might think that $40 million is an outrageous amount of money to pay him. But quarterbacks are expensive and they are expensive because of simple economics—the demand exceeds the supply. If you don’t pay Cousins, the question becomes who do you pay?


that contract would make him the 21st highest paid qb in the NFL and you want to pay him less then half of that ? huh ? come on wake up and put up some realistic numbers

I'm with GK. That's right about where it should be.

 

[Caliskinsfan]

If I was Cousin's agent and you offered me a one year deal I am talking to every team that needs a QB. Houston, Rams, Browns, Jets and I am probably forgetting two or three. Unless he bombs the last 7 games someone is going to pay him

I believe a three year deal that you can get out of in two years is the way to go.

You are probably right. I was thinking, maybe if your Kirk, you build in a guaranteed year (when your stock is highest right now) without the pressure of betting on yourself for the remainder of the season. If you have some so-so games down the road (which will most likely happen -you don't face the Saints D in another game) you've created a cushion for yourself.

But can't imagine most competitive players wouldn't bet on themselves.

 

[SoCalWizFan]

I'm with GK. That's right about where it should be.

So - you are stating that Cousins would just accept this? That is what really matters. It certainly doesn't matter what you, I or anyone else here believes that he is worth.

 

[ehb5]

So - you are stating that Cousins would just accept this? That is what really matters. It certainly doesn't matter what you, I or anyone else here believes that he is worth.

We don't know. But that's about what I'd offer. If he's close you can probably go a little higher but if he wants $12 million a year or something we're gonna need to see more from him first.

 

[Caliskinsfan]

 

[SoCalWizFan]

We don't know. But that's about what I'd offer. If he's close you can probably go a little higher but if he wants $12 million a year or something we're gonna need to see more from him first.

Just remember that this is not about what somebody believes that somebody is worth. This is about supply and demand (as Skinsdad alluded to). If Cousins has a productive remainder of season there will be an increased demand for his services and that lowball contract likely won't be enough regardless of what any of us believe that he is worth.

 

[skinsdad62]

We don't know. But that's about what I'd offer. If he's close you can probably go a little higher but if he wants $12 million a year or something we're gonna need to see more from him first.

this is foolishness , 12 mil a year makes him the 21st highest paid qb in the NFL as a starter and you and GK think he will accept a 5 mil a year offer that is less then half of that ? and you BELIEVE that is right and you BELIEVE he would take that ???????

when this season shakes out i expect he will fall between 13- 25 in the qb ratings overall but you want to pay him like a scrub ? you arent signing him for 5 mil people

 

[Sportster 72]

It is really simple math Skins have no one else ready to play next year, Cousins would most benefit by playing in the same system for a third straight year = they have to make the equation work. X = $__

 

[SoCalWizFan]

Quarterback Contracts and Salaries | Over The Cap

Here you go - here are the QBs by salary. If you paid Cousins $5M / yr you would be putting him in the Hoyer, McCown, Sanchez territory - that is an insult since most of these guys are either backups or should be backups.

Sure Cousins doesn't deserve to be in the top tier making $20M+ /yr. However - assuming a decent amt of success for the remainder of the season - he deserves a lot more than to be say the 30th highest paid QB in the NFL. The numbers that some are suggesting would have been appropriate perhaps for last offseason when there were more unknowns.