NFL upholds Brady's 4 game suspension

[HaroldSeattle]

By the way, what do you think of Wilson signing the extension?

Big relief. Figured it would happen, but nice to have it done with.

 

[BigKen]

Stop trying to make sense. Facts don't work on the Hoop

I know, but I love to watch the haters refute expert information.

The best example is when MIT took 12 balls, inflated them to 13.5 PSI and placed them on a table.. Gave something like 3 or 4 or 5 men three separate oppotunties to insert a needle in the balls and deflate them to roughly 12-12.5 PSI. They did it to see how fast anyone could deflate 12 footballs. The fastest time was something like 132 seconds.

Considering that the Patriots ball attendant went into a bathroom and came out in 94 seconds, MIT said that going into the bathroom, removing 12 balls from a bag, deflating them and putting them back in the bag and walking out in 94 seconds was near impossible. Their conclusion was that he went into the bathroom, set down the bag, unzipped his pants, urinated, zipped his pants, rinsed (not washed) his hands, dried them, picked up the bag and walked out the door. Why did they say that? Because they observed over 100 men at MIT, entering the mens room carrying an object (book, notebook, backpack) urinating, wshing or rinsing hands and either drying with paper towels or using the blower. The average use was something like 87 seconds.

But when confronted with the information, on hater simply said that the ball attendant was a professional ball handler and could do the dirty deed in less time.

Facts are useless, unless the haters want to use them.

 

[The Oldtimer]

I know, but I love to watch the haters refute expert information.

The best example is when MIT took 12 balls, inflated them to 13.5 PSI and placed them on a table.. Gave something like 3 or 4 or 5 men three separate oppotunties to insert a needle in the balls and deflate them to roughly 12-12.5 PSI. They did it to see how fast anyone could deflate 12 footballs. The fastest time was something like 132 seconds.

Considering that the Patriots ball attendant went into a bathroom and came out in 94 seconds, MIT said that going into the bathroom, removing 12 balls from a bag, deflating them and putting them back in the bag and walking out in 94 seconds was near impossible. Their conclusion was that he went into the bathroom, set down the bag, unzipped his pants, urinated, zipped his pants, rinsed (not washed) his hands, dried them, picked up the bag and walked out the door. Why did they say that? Because they observed over 100 men at MIT, entering the mens room carrying an object (book, notebook, backpack) urinating, wshing or rinsing hands and either drying with paper towels or using the blower. The average use was something like 87 seconds.

But when confronted with the information, on hater simply said that the ball attendant was a professional ball handler and could do the dirty deed in less time.

Facts are useless, unless the haters want to use them.

Good comment, but how did the Pat's footballs get deflated?

 

[Manster7588]

I know, but I love to watch the haters refute expert information.

The best example is when MIT took 12 balls, inflated them to 13.5 PSI and placed them on a table.. Gave something like 3 or 4 or 5 men three separate oppotunties to insert a needle in the balls and deflate them to roughly 12-12.5 PSI. They did it to see how fast anyone could deflate 12 footballs. The fastest time was something like 132 seconds.

Considering that the Patriots ball attendant went into a bathroom and came out in 94 seconds, MIT said that going into the bathroom, removing 12 balls from a bag, deflating them and putting them back in the bag and walking out in 94 seconds was near impossible. Their conclusion was that he went into the bathroom, set down the bag, unzipped his pants, urinated, zipped his pants, rinsed (not washed) his hands, dried them, picked up the bag and walked out the door. Why did they say that? Because they observed over 100 men at MIT, entering the mens room carrying an object (book, notebook, backpack) urinating, wshing or rinsing hands and either drying with paper towels or using the blower. The average use was something like 87 seconds.

But when confronted with the information, on hater simply said that the ball attendant was a professional ball handler and could do the dirty deed in less time.

Facts are useless, unless the haters want to use them.

And I love watching Patriot fans try to pull expert information out of their asses.

 

[Southieinnc]

Good comment, but how did the Pat's footballs get deflated?

You start out before the game indoors with footballs inflated to 12.5 pounds. You walk outdoors into the cooler weather and the pressure drops.

Ideal gas law - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[NEPatsfan]

1) why won't the phone come up in hearings, you claiming theirs a agreement not to bring it up?

2) yes the phone was physically destroyed, not buying the argument that the full data is still available and neither the NFL or the judge will buy that.

3) oh please, anyone with common sense knows that was taken out of context

1. Because it's not relevant to what's being argued. The NFLPA is arguing the CBA being violated, and the phone is personal property and not part of that.

2. Actually the full data is available. And it doesn't matter what the NFL or Judge say at this point, it's not part of the case.

3. Out of context was the intent of the NFL.

 

[The Oldtimer]

You start out before the game indoors with footballs inflated to 12.5 pounds. You walk outdoors into the cooler weather and the pressure drops.

Ideal gas law - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Then why weren't the Ravens' footballs deflates??

 

[The Oldtimer]

Then why weren't the Ravens' footballs deflates??

Correction-: Then why weren't the "Colts" footballs deflate??

 

[realityball]

Correction-: Then why weren't the "Colts" footballs deflate??

Correction: the Colts footballs were deflated

 

[HaroldSeattle]

1. Because it's not relevant to what's being argued. The NFLPA is arguing the CBA being violated, and the phone is personal property and not part of that.

2. Actually the full data is available. And it doesn't matter what the NFL or Judge say at this point, it's not part of the case.

3. Out of context was the intent of the NFL.

Your right, the court is going to judge whether or not the procedures follow the CBA and contract law.
It's not about whether or not TB is guilty.

So you were right and I was wrong...enjoy.

 

[The Oldtimer]

Correction: the Colts footballs were deflated

Link???

 

[realityball]

Link???

Here's one:

Wells Report: More Probable Than Not Colts Played With Under-Inflated Footballs

 

[The Oldtimer]

Here's one:

Wells Report: More Probable Than Not Colts Played With Under-Inflated Footballs

The refs checked the Pat's footballs at halftime and found they were under inflated. I don't recall the refs finding any of the Colts footballs under inflated. The article you posted doesn't tell my anything about the Colts, being caught with under inflated footballs. The Pats are the ones being charged, not the Colts.

 

[realityball]

The refs checked the Pat's footballs at halftime and found they were under inflated. I don't recall the refs finding any of the Colts footballs under inflated. The article you posted doesn't tell my anything about the Colts, being caught with under inflated footballs. The Pats are the ones being charged, not the Colts.

Stop your bullshit ... you asked why weren't the colts balls "deflated."

 

[The Oldtimer]

Stop your bullshit ... you asked why weren't the colts balls "deflated."

LOL, I'm still asking, "why weren't the Colts footballs deflated during the ACCG"? The refs checked both the Pats and the Colts footballs at halftime and only found the Pats footballs were under inflated. Why is that?

 

[GNG]

I feel the same, but I think the NFL wanted to make sure the punishment wasn't over the top and went with a mild suspension. They want to make sure TB doesn't have a legal leg to stand on. The NFL really wants to win this one, unlike some other battles that were just PR moves.

Everyone outside of New England thinks Brady got a mild suspension.

 

[GNG]

The refs checked both the Pats and the Colts footballs at halftime and only found the Pats footballs were under inflated. Why is that?

Because they were.

 

[sonnyblack65]

LOL, I'm still asking, "why weren't the Colts footballs deflated during the ACCG"? The refs checked both the Pats and the Colts footballs at halftime and only found the Pats footballs were under inflated. Why is that?

OT if you read that link posted , it is showing that 3 out of the Colts balls were under the 12.5 and that the reason that they didn't check them all is because they ran out of time, so the Colts balls were deflated too. @tedman2012 small hands Luck must have hand them deflate the balls

 

[realityball]

LOL, I'm still asking, "why weren't the Colts footballs deflated during the ACCG"? The refs checked both the Pats and the Colts footballs at halftime and only found the Pats footballs were under inflated. Why is that?

You got me ... you're laughing out loud but no one can hear ya ...


... you should ask yourself why that is ...

 

[sonnyblack65]

Everyone outside of New England thinks Brady got a mild suspension.

Sure the biggest fine in football history and first time suspension for equipment violation, they got off easy. G&G you do crack man?