Oklahoma and...... Kansas to the Big 10?

[Used 2 B Hu]

Nebraska is a national brand. They have a larger fanbase than almost every other school in the nation. Kansas? Not so much.

That was my assumption, that they wanted the name recognition. All that posturing about akudimmicks means nothing when you can add a premium brand.

 

[Across The Field]

That was my assumption, that they wanted the name recognition. All that posturing about akudimmicks means nothing when you can add a premium brand.

Correct

 

[Codaxx]

Texas will never join a conference with teams that have as much money and power as they do. Stanford and USC would tell Texas to stick the LHN up their ass.

Hey, did you ask Patterson if you could speak?

 

[TexasExes98]

No but Rutgers games are played all over the place in NY. They also are a pretty solid academic institution. Kansas offers neither of these things. From a shear volume standpoint, KC just can't compete.

I take it somebody hasn't been to NY. You are hard pressed to find a Rutgers game being played period. In NYC, your major programs like tOSU, Texas, USC, Penn St, etc have large alumni bases and dominate the bar scene with their alumni clubs. Rutgers didn't bring anything as far as a TV market is concerned to the B1G that wasn't already there before they joined. KC actually brings a better TV market in a sense that is Jayhawk country. Also, you are underestimating the academics of KU.

 

[TexasExes98]

But Ken Starr will sho-nuff SUE yerass if you don't make with them Mint Juleps

This Sho Nuff???

 

[Used 2 B Hu]

I take it somebody hasn't been to NY.

Hey, how was your trip here a few weeks back? Did you walk the Bridge like I suggested?

 

[nddulac]

For a youngin', are you sure you don't see it?

B1G.

The 1 and the G make a 16.

That's not it. 10 is 16 in hexidecimal.

duh.

(Just like the Big XII - they are counting in base 8.)

 

[Across The Field]

I take it somebody hasn't been to NY. You are hard pressed to find a Rutgers game being played period. In NYC, your major programs like tOSU, Texas, USC, Penn St, etc have large alumni bases and dominate the bar scene with their alumni clubs. Rutgers didn't bring anything as far as a TV market is concerned to the B1G that wasn't already there before they joined. KC actually brings a better TV market in a sense that is Jayhawk country. Also, you are underestimating the academics of KU.

Ironically enough I have been to NYC and actually saw a Rutgers game on TV when out with my buddy. We went to visit his sister in college at Fordham, and this was about 6 years ago.

At any rate, getting further penetration into that market and planting the flag for the B1G is way more appealing than planting our flag on the Kansas-Missouri border.

 

[TexasExes98]

Hey, how was your trip here a few weeks back? Did you walk the Bridge like I suggested?

Which one? I've been traveling a lot for work lately......

 

[Used 2 B Hu]

Which one? I've been traveling a lot for work lately......

The one that you remember details of, obviously...

 

[TexasExes98]

Oklahoma has taken the power in the Big 12-2 away from Texas and their puppet commish. Texas is not much of a team these days, nor will they be in the near future. OU is 4-1 in their last 5 meetings against Texas. TCU, Baylor, K-State. and Oklahoma State have also passed Texas. OU goes nowhere without Okie State. That is the way it is in Oklahoma. Texas will be the biggest loser when all is said and done. Baylor and TCU are private schools, so Texas is stuck with tag-along partner Texas Tech. The Pac 12 wants nothing to do with Baylor, or anything that comes close to Waco Texas.

LOL, this is rich coming from a Trojan fan. USC might be the 5th best team in their conference (6th if Stanford comes back this year), can't beat Boston College, loses to god awful WAZZU recently, has Oregon and ASU dropping 60 plus points on their team, and is 0-3 vs. UCLA the last 3 years. Pete Carroll is long gone son.

 

[Hornsstampede2.0]

The AAU maintains a very strict internal ranking system for its academic partners that differs from other lists.
There are several decent ranked schools that don't meet the exclusive needs of the AAU.

And the CIC is a defacto sub-organization within the AAU....a club within the club.
The Big 10 was not very happy at all to see Nebraska get booted immediately from the AAU.

AAU is what the Big 10 wants.
Kansas has that coveted AAU membership.

The Big 10 is not going to budge on that requirement for anyone....Oklahoma is deluding themselves.

 

[Goldbug]

Sorry, the Oklahoma legislature isn't letting you go anywhere without us. We're the fifth wheel on the Sooner Schooner.

Archangel, you know I support the Pokes on this board (to the chagrin of some of my Sooners brethren) and I'm a Mike Gundy fan but you're dead wrong that there could never be a divorce between OU and OSU if things stayed roughly the way they are now. Please read post #113. If it got down to the nut cutting, OU could make the break if we really wanted to do it. It would be a serious move for us but OSU can't rely on being "Jr." forever. You've got to keep plugging away, like you are already doing, and your brand will be strong enough to earn a conference bid based on who you are and not who you're related to. If you hadn't pissed away a chance to play for a NC none of this would even be a matter for discussion.

 

[Archangel]

Archangel, you know I support the Pokes on this board (to the chagrin of some of my Sooners brethren) and I'm a Mike Gundy fan but you're dead wrong that there could never be a divorce between OU and OSU if things stayed roughly the way they are now. Please read post #113. If it got down to the nut cutting, OU could make the break if we really wanted to do it. It would be a serious move for us but OSU can't rely on being "Jr." forever. You've got to keep plugging away, like you are already doing, and your brand will be strong enough to earn a conference bid based on who you are and not who you're related to. If you hadn't pissed away a chance to play for a NC none of this would even be a matter for discussion.

If we get relegated to a lesser conference we'll be Boise State on steroids.

 

[Used 2 B Hu]

If we get relegated to a lesser conference we'll be Boise State on steroids.

Better go ahead and gimmick up yerselves an orange field

 

[Shanemansj13]

(Doesn't read whole thread.)

As much as I would love to read 10 pages...no thanks

 

[The Derski]

We will trade Colorado for someone.. Anyone.

-OD

 

[nddulac]

If we get relegated to a lesser conference we'll be Boise State on steroids.

T. Boise Pickins.

 

[Red_Alert]

I take it somebody hasn't been to NY. You are hard pressed to find a Rutgers game being played period. In NYC, your major programs like tOSU, Texas, USC, Penn St, etc have large alumni bases and dominate the bar scene with their alumni clubs. Rutgers didn't bring anything as far as a TV market is concerned to the B1G that wasn't already there before they joined. KC actually brings a better TV market in a sense that is Jayhawk country. Also, you are underestimating the academics of KU.

The out of touch arrogance of Texas fans never ceases to amaze me. The LHN is NOT even available on any cable or satellite service tier in New York. You couldn't get it if you wanted it.

Getting Rutgers into the Big 10 opened the door for BTN to be bundled into the basic packages of every cable and satellite carrier in NY. ALL states that have a Big 10 team have BTN bundled into their basic packages. Whether people watch Rutgers athletics or not is a moot point as it is available with the click of the remote and BTN gets a piece of the pie. It's not an opt in or out. it's just there.

Nebraska, Oklahoma, and Kansas don't have big populations and networks by themselves wouldn't be attractive to bundle in other states or even as a sports package option. However they each have a national brand that when coupled with other Big 10 teams makes for an attractive national sell. Nobody outside of Texas cares about having LHN bundled into their basic cable or satellite packages. They would scream bloody murder if their carriers tried to charge them for it. The SEC and PAC networks are in my standard $15/month sports package. LHN isn't available on any tier or package period. I couldn't get it if I wanted it.

Enjoy the LHN being aired for the population of Texas. However it will never be bundled into packages nationally like BTN, SEC, and PAC networks are.

BTN is currently bundled into 90 million households and available to 100 million more via sports package. Adding Oklahoma (1.7 million) and Kansas (1.5 million w/KCMO) as bundle will only increase the national brand and the attractiveness of BTN to sports package customers in states where it's not bundled.

What's good for the University of Texas (in Texas) is not good for the rest of the Big 12.

Is LHN even bundled into all 10 million households of Texas, or is it just a package option for the vast majority of them?

 

[Cowboyinexile]

If we get relegated to a lesser conference we'll be Boise State on steroids.

It's unlikely. Despite what the ou fans want to believe it would be really tough politically for both schools to go their separate ways with OSU left in the dust. It might not be perfect but I highly doubt we get UCONNed if something were to happen. Plus if I remember right from when the PAC 16 deal almost went down a few years ago it was not only that but Boone's relationship with some of the insiders at Texas that kept us in the loop.

All that being said if we get 4 conferences of 16 that is 64 teams.

You take current P5 members plus ND and you get 65. If your name is Wake Forest or maybe a Vandy or Utah I'd be a little worried if things go nuts again. The rest of us will end up fine.