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Oklahoma and...... Kansas to the Big 10?

Lance Armstrong

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I just gave you the numbers. Please explain how come the SEC and B1G have higher ratings in both years than the other three conferences, if the B1G isn't on TV? How come the PAC 12 is listed in 5th if they are on TV so much?


I guess I'll type slower. The PAC and BIG 12 have the most TV coverage, I don't care about ratings. I'm talking with 16 team conferences who would have the best chance to be on TV the most. Don't worry, I'm sure the Big would still own the ESPN 11am slot.
 

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If they were to stay in a conference, Texas could only be so lucky as to be part of the B1G.

Again, nothing about Kansas academically is better than Rutgers or Maryland, and actually they're nowhere near their academic level. Not only that, but Rutgers brings the NYC market, which is far more than Kansas can offer. Kansas has nothing to offer the B1G. It just doesn't make any sense for us to split money with a school that offers little to nothing in return.

hahahahaha you've never been to new York. Rutgers is in New Jersey, and NYC couldn't care less about college football. Only college sport NYC follows is Big East basketball.
 

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I guess I'll type slower. The PAC and BIG 12 have the most TV coverage, I don't care about ratings. I'm talking with 16 team conferences who would have the best chance to be on TV the most. Don't worry, I'm sure the Big would still own the ESPN 11am slot.
The "most" as in sq/mi or the "most" as in number of TV's?
 

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Pac 16

Northwest division
Washington
WSU
Oregon
OSU
Stanford
Cal
USC
UCLA

Southwest division
AZ
ASU
Utah
Colorado
Texas
tech
Baylor
TCU

Original Pac schools in 1 division, with cali as a recruiting base. Southwest division has Texas as a main recruiting base, and this conference has so many major TV markets its scary. the SEC takes West Virginia and Okie light, ACC gets their choice of Iowa State, k state, or UConn. Everybody wins.
 

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I guess I'll type slower. The PAC and BIG 12 have the most TV coverage, I don't care about ratings. I'm talking with 16 team conferences who would have the best chance to be on TV the most. Don't worry, I'm sure the Big would still own the ESPN 11am slot.
So what you are saying is that despite being on more channels no one cares to watch Big12 and PAC games? Congrats on that.
 

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Pac 16

North division
Washington
WSU
Oregon
OSU
Stanford
Cal
Utah
Colorado


South division
AZ
ASU
USC
UCLA

Texas
tech
Baylor
TCU

Original Pac schools in 1 division, with cali as a recruiting base. Southwest division has Texas as a main recruiting base, and this conference has so many major TV markets its scary. the SEC takes West Virginia and Okie light, ACC gets their choice of Iowa State, k state, or UConn. Everybody wins.

I like that better
 

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The "most" as in sq/mi or the "most" as in number of TV's?

Most as in networks. Off the top of my head, this is how I think it breaks down. If I'm wrong, sorry just correct me

Pac 12-Fox, Fox sports 1, Fox sports, ABC, ESPN, 2, U, pac 12 network

Big 12-Fox, Fox sports 1, Fox sports, ABC, ESPN, 2, U, team networks

SEC-CBS, ESPN, 2, U, SEC network (do they play on CBS sports network)

Big-ABC, ESPN, 2, U, Big ten network

ACC-ABC, ESPN, 2, U
 

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So what you are saying is that despite being on more channels no one cares to watch Big12 and PAC games? Congrats on that.

I think it is based on Big 10 putting some tier 2 games on BTN. That lowers the national televised numbers
 

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Most as in networks. Off the top of my head, this is how I think it breaks down. If I'm wrong, sorry just correct me

Pac 12-Fox, Fox sports 1, Fox sports, ABC, ESPN, 2, U, pac 12 network

Big 12-Fox, Fox sports 1, Fox sports, ABC, ESPN, 2, U, team networks

SEC-CBS, ESPN, 2, U, SEC network (do they play on CBS sports network)

Big-ABC, ESPN, 2, U, Big ten network

ACC-ABC, ESPN, 2, U
I am curious as to numbers of households they all add up.
 

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I am curious as to numbers of households they all add up.

Except for the conference networks, all the other networks are on every tv with basic cable. Of course Fox, ABC, and CBS are on every tv in America.
 

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Most as in networks. Off the top of my head, this is how I think it breaks down. If I'm wrong, sorry just correct me

Pac 12-Fox, Fox sports 1, Fox sports, ABC, ESPN, 2, U, pac 12 network

Big 12-Fox, Fox sports 1, Fox sports, ABC, ESPN, 2, U, team networks

SEC-CBS, ESPN, 2, U, SEC network (do they play on CBS sports network)

Big-ABC, ESPN, 2, U, Big ten network

ACC-ABC, ESPN, 2, U
If the league is getting full coverage (all games televised) it doesn't really matter how many different networks they are on. The B1G televises all games between the channels you mentioned. Having games on FS1 and regional Fox Sports Networks is no different than having games on the Big Ten Network. FS1 does not have a very big viewership yet, and the regional Fox Sports channels are only available in certain areas. I just don't think more networks = better.
 

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Except for the conference networks, all the other networks are on every tv with basic cable. Of course Fox, ABC, and CBS are on every tv in America.
I already responded once before I saw this, but Fox Sports is a series of regional networks if I am not mistaken. FS1 is the Fox national sports channel, so if something is on Fox Sports (eg Fox Sports Midwest) it is not nationally televised.
 

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I already responded once before I saw this, but Fox Sports is a series of regional networks if I am not mistaken. FS1 is the Fox national sports channel, so if something is on Fox Sports (eg Fox Sports Midwest) it is not nationally televised.


You're only half right. Yes, fox breaks it up regionally, but everybody has their own version of it. Where I live its called Fox sports southwest, but its called something different everywhere. But if USC is playing on Fox sports LA, it is shown nationally on everybody's "regional" fox sports. So yes, I get all the pac 12 games on my Fox sports southwest channel. So yes, its a national broadcasted game.
 

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You're only half right. Yes, fox breaks it up regionally, but everybody has their own version of it. Where I live its called Fox sports southwest, but its called something different everywhere. But if USC is playing on Fox sports LA, it is shown nationally on everybody's "regional" fox sports. So yes, I get all the pac 12 games on my Fox sports southwest channel. So yes, its a national broadcasted game.
Strange. The only games I can get on mine (Fox Sports Midwest) seem to be Big 12 games, typically KU or TTU or some other meaningless Big 12 game :noidea:
 

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Strange. The only games I can get on mine (Fox Sports Midwest) seem to be Big 12 games, typically KU or TTU or some other meaningless Big 12 game :noidea:


That's because its the only games you notice, because Nebraska fans are for some reason obsessed with the big 12.
 

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That's because its the only games you notice, because Nebraska fans are for some reason obsessed with the big 12.
I'm a pretty big fan of college football in general, and love ending my college football Saturdays with a late night PAC game or two, and I've never noticed them being on. I wasn't trying to jab at the Big 12 with that "meaningless" comment, I just meant that the teams playing were usually the conference bottom feeders (because the better teams are usually on ESPN or whatever else). I could be mistaken, but I don't think I get nearly as many PAC games on that channel as you do. Could it be because you have FS SouthWEST so they figure you're more interested in what is going on out west?
 
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