Weakest division(s) in the AFC?

[Tgann69]

Yes because Cincy and the Browns have been such perenial powerhouses right?

But both teams have made strides this year (off season) still early.

Cincy makes the playoffs....

When was the last team in the AFC East not name New England made it to the playoffs?

 

[NWPATSFAN]

So other divisions will be "sneaking teams in through the backdoor"?

I guess if I were a fan of a team whose the last 10 times making the playoffs were via the wild card, I personally wouldn't be so brazen like some of the Ratbird fans.

Good thing for the WC, hun?

 

[Tgann69]

I guess if I were a fan of a team whose the last 10 times making the playoffs were via the wild card, I personally wouldn't be so brazen like some of the Ratbird fans.

Good thing for the WC, hun?

What's fun is when u say that is you unknowingly prove how WEAK the rest of your division is.... Every year NE is 12-4 or 13-3.. Home field advantage in the playoffs yet just like the Ravens have only won 1 Super Bowl in the last 10 years. see when u play in a weak division u play poorly in the playoffs even at home as Brady.

 

[ATL96Steeler]

And see your post shows that it all depends on how you want to look at things. Numbers wise Manning and Rivers have been much better than Roethlisberger and Flacco. Yes you can look at playoff record but since 2012 the Steelers have been to the playoffs once and didn't make it past the wildcard. The Broncos since 2012 have played in the Divisional round or further every time. Flacco has some argument but of the 4 has the worst regular season stats. So really if we are looking at the last 3 years (time Manning has been with the Broncos) Manning has put up the best stats by far of the 4 with Roethlisberger and Rivers being in a close match for 2nd with Flacco bringing up the rear by quite a bit. Playoff success you would have to go Ravens, Broncos, Chargers, Steelers. Overall team I guess Ravens 1st but even there that is only because they won a Super Bowl. Broncos are the only one to have made the playoffs every single season and have the best overall record by a long ways over the others. So just depends how you want to look at all of this.

Listen I have no problem somebody saying the AFC North is the best division in the AFC. AS we have seen they have a very strong argument for it. I just don't think it is as clear cut as Money seems to be trying to make it.

All in good fun...right now...even though Manning is showing to be in somewhat of a decline (in JAN at least) DEN probably has the most talent on both sides of the ball...after that it starts to get a little fuzzy, but I'm not a huge believer in Smith and KC...D still looks to be solid, but the OFC imo is going to have iron out some wrinkles...SD seems to always be right there, but they never get there.

Steelers and Ravens are retooling after a long stretch of success...this season will tell how far they've come back in terms of a SB run, but I wouldn't be surprised to see two N teams get back and I wouldn't be surprised if only the DIV winner made it.

 

[NWPATSFAN]

Cincy makes the playoffs....

When was the last team in the AFC East not name New England made it to the playoffs?

Was it 2010 when the Jets gave the Steelers a run for thier money in the AFCCG?

Now your turn why not tell me how any team from the AFCN other than the Steelers and Ratbirds have done past the first round?

Weak division gets exposed in playoffs. Beat each other up. Make the playoffs. Lose.

 

[ATL96Steeler]

I guess if I were a fan of a team whose the last 10 times making the playoffs were via the wild card, I personally wouldn't be so brazen like some of the Ratbird fans.

Good thing for the WC, hun?

It would no doubt be nice to own the DIV like NE has and get a home game every year, but I really don't think it matters how you get there, just get to the dance and you have a chance.

 

[Tgann69]

It would no doubt be nice to own the DIV like NE has and get a home game every year, but I really don't think it matters how you get there, just get to the dance and you have a chance.

Agreed but u can't make the claim that ur division is tough when 9/10 years only 1 team goes to the playoffs and the other 3 never do.

 

[ATL96Steeler]

Agreed but u can't make the claim that ur division is tough when 9/10 years only 1 team goes to the playoffs and the other 3 never do.

That's true, but if I'm reading into this right, IDT he's making a case for the E, just one against the N being the toughest.

 

[NWPATSFAN]

What's fun is when u say that is you unknowingly prove how WEAK the rest of your division is.... Every year NE is 12-4 or 13-3.. Home field advantage in the playoffs yet just like the Ravens have only won 1 Super Bowl in the last 10 years. see when u play in a weak division u play poorly in the playoffs even at home as Brady.

How many different ways do you want to bring this up? Guess we're back to you trying to find the silver linning? Is Johnny U coming next for comparison? Well you would only count the good years I'm sure. Considering those numbers aren't really the Raven's numbers.

How many different posters not just NE fans have pointed out that it depends on SoS. Which really should be determined after the year for that current year. Because SoS today is a guess. Sure ithey update a couple times during the year but it should be after the season when all the games are finished. You'd get a better measuring tool. Anyway I regress. When you play the NFCS and the AFCS chances are you may do better? That doesn't hold true for what you like to refer to as the weak AFCE though does it?

I have an idea how about beating the Pats and other quality teams outside your division and maybe you can get HFA. There is no ruls against going 16-0. I think if you do that you would clinch HFA

 

[NWPATSFAN]

Agreed but u can't make the claim that ur division is tough when 9/10 years only 1 team goes to the playoffs and the other 3 never do.

That reading comprehension thing is really kicking your butt, hun?
Please show me one post where I said the AFCE is tough? The closest you will find is me saying something to the effect that the 4 teams in the AFC E play each other tough.

I'm simply discrediting your OP. Other posters as well have come here and discredited you. Again divisions like the AFCS NFCS...

Why not back off, lick your wounds again and start another post tomorrow? You're over your head.

 

[Tgann69]

That reading comprehension thing is really kicking your butt, hun?
Please show me one post where I said the AFCE is tough? The closest you will find is me saying something to the effect that the 4 teams in the AFC E play each other tough.

I'm simply discrediting your OP. Other posters as well have come here and discredited you. Again divisions like the AFCS NFCS...

Why not back off, lick your wounds again and start another post tomorrow? You're over your head.

^jist learned the AFC east is weak. He'll be ok.

 

[NWPATSFAN]

^jist learned the AFC east is weak. He'll be ok.

^^MASTER OF DEFLECTION^^
^^Never answered a question he didn't like^^
^^Loser^^

 

[blstoker]

Last 20 years the AFC Champion has come from:

AFCE 7 times
AFCN 6 times
AFCW 4 times
AFCS 3 times

Interestingly, The Patriots have won 7 AFC championships during that span, followed by the Steelers with 4 and the Broncos with 3.
Infer what you want but these facts clearly show this troll post as an epic fail.....

I'm just gonna skip the next 5+ pages, assuming its more back and forth about barely related items and just address this post.

First, it's hardly fair to go back 20 years, since the current system has only been in place for 13. Second, having one really good team in a division (i.e. conference champ) doesn't mean the entire division is good. Personally, I feel the best way to determine how good a division is overall, is to look at their non division games.

So, going back 13 years, here's how they rank (winning percentage wise, includes playoff games).

AFCE - .545
AFCN - .525
AFCS - .502
AFCW - .471

Now, since nearly every division has 1 team that has basically dominated it, here's how they rank without their top team.

AFCN (Pittsburgh)- .499
AFCE (New England)- .468
AFCS (Indianapolis) - .454
AFCW (San Diego) - .446

Other interesting facts:

1. New England has the highest in division winning percentage (.775). Indianapolis (.769) and Pittsburgh (.699) round out the top 3.
2. New England has the highest out of division winning percentage (.747). Indianapolis (.627) and Pittsburgh (.602) round out the top 3.
3. Cleveland has the worst in division winning percentage (.253). Oakland (.333) and Buffalo (.372) round out the top 3.
4. Oakland has the worst non-division winning percentage (.331). Cleveland (.400) and Buffalo (.438) round out the top 3.
5. The AFCW has 3 teams (Denver, Oakland & San Diego) who have better records against their division than they have outside it. The rest of the AFC has a total of 3 (Indianapolis, Pittsburgh & New England).
6. Without the 2011 season, Indianapolis has an astonishing 80% winning percentage versus division opponents.
7. The AFCW has the two closest teams in terms of record. Denver is 49-30 in division while San Diego is 48-31. At the same time San Diego is 77-64 non Division while Denver is 79-69. All told, their winning percentages over the last 13 years are separated by a mere .004.
8. No team, other than New England, has a winning record in any area (division, non-division, overall) in the AFCE. The same can be said about Indianapolis and the AFCS.

 

[TP76]

Cincy makes the playoffs....

When was the last team in the AFC East not name New England made it to the playoffs?

Jets 2009 & 2010 made it to the Conference Championship game two years in a row as a wildcard

Miami 2008 Division winner tied with Pats

Buffalo... well, they haven't sniffed the playoffs since 1999, but I think they're going this year. They've got a great defense that Rex will make even better.

 

[NWPATSFAN]

I'm just gonna skip the next 5+ pages, assuming its more back and forth about barely related items and just address this post.

First, it's hardly fair to go back 20 years, since the current system has only been in place for 13. Second, having one really good team in a division (i.e. conference champ) doesn't mean the entire division is good. Personally, I feel the best way to determine how good a division is overall, is to look at their non division games.

So, going back 13 years, here's how they rank (winning percentage wise, includes playoff games).

AFCE - .545
AFCN - .525
AFCS - .502
AFCW - .471

Now, since nearly every division has 1 team that has basically dominated it, here's how they rank without their top team.

AFCN (Pittsburgh)- .499
AFCE (New England)- .468
AFCS (Indianapolis) - .454
AFCW (San Diego) - .446

Other interesting facts:

1. New England has the highest in division winning percentage (.775). Indianapolis (.769) and Pittsburgh (.699) round out the top 3.
2. New England has the highest out of division winning percentage (.747). Indianapolis (.627) and Pittsburgh (.602) round out the top 3.
3. Cleveland has the worst in division winning percentage (.253). Oakland (.333) and Buffalo (.372) round out the top 3.
4. Oakland has the worst non-division winning percentage (.331). Cleveland (.400) and Buffalo (.438) round out the top 3.
5. The AFCW has 3 teams (Denver, Oakland & San Diego) who have better records against their division than they have outside it. The rest of the AFC has a total of 3 (Indianapolis, Pittsburgh & New England).
6. Without the 2011 season, Indianapolis has an astonishing 80% winning percentage versus division opponents.
7. The AFCW has the two closest teams in terms of record. Denver is 49-30 in division while San Diego is 48-31. At the same time San Diego is 77-64 non Division while Denver is 79-69. All told, their winning percentages over the last 13 years are separated by a mere .004.
8. No team, other than New England, has a winning record in any area (division, non-division, overall) in the AFCE. The same can be said about Indianapolis and the AFCS.

Thanks for posting this blstoker. Somee of us enjoy statistical facts not just bs.

69 what are your thoughts on this?

 

[Manster7588]

I'm just gonna skip the next 5+ pages, assuming its more back and forth about barely related items and just address this post.

First, it's hardly fair to go back 20 years, since the current system has only been in place for 13. Second, having one really good team in a division (i.e. conference champ) doesn't mean the entire division is good. Personally, I feel the best way to determine how good a division is overall, is to look at their non division games.

So, going back 13 years, here's how they rank (winning percentage wise, includes playoff games).

AFCE - .545
AFCN - .525
AFCS - .502
AFCW - .471

Now, since nearly every division has 1 team that has basically dominated it, here's how they rank without their top team.

AFCN (Pittsburgh)- .499
AFCE (New England)- .468
AFCS (Indianapolis) - .454
AFCW (San Diego) - .446

Other interesting facts:

1. New England has the highest in division winning percentage (.775). Indianapolis (.769) and Pittsburgh (.699) round out the top 3.
2. New England has the highest out of division winning percentage (.747). Indianapolis (.627) and Pittsburgh (.602) round out the top 3.
3. Cleveland has the worst in division winning percentage (.253). Oakland (.333) and Buffalo (.372) round out the top 3.
4. Oakland has the worst non-division winning percentage (.331). Cleveland (.400) and Buffalo (.438) round out the top 3.
5. The AFCW has 3 teams (Denver, Oakland & San Diego) who have better records against their division than they have outside it. The rest of the AFC has a total of 3 (Indianapolis, Pittsburgh & New England).
6. Without the 2011 season, Indianapolis has an astonishing 80% winning percentage versus division opponents.
7. The AFCW has the two closest teams in terms of record. Denver is 49-30 in division while San Diego is 48-31. At the same time San Diego is 77-64 non Division while Denver is 79-69. All told, their winning percentages over the last 13 years are separated by a mere .004.
8. No team, other than New England, has a winning record in any area (division, non-division, overall) in the AFCE. The same can be said about Indianapolis and the AFCS.

Nice job. Did you put this all together yourself, or is there a site you can share with us lazier folks.

 

[blstoker]

Nice job. Did you put this all together yourself, or is there a site you can share with us lazier folks.

Oh, I enjoy stats, so I spent some time putting this together on a spread sheet. I would have posted this about 4 pages ago, but I had to work on the kitchen remodel we're doing.

 

[Manster7588]

Oh, I enjoy stats, so I spent some time putting this together on a spread sheet. I would have posted this about 4 pages ago, but I had to work on the kitchen remodel we're doing.

Screw the kitchen this is more important, I don't care if your wife gets mad at you or not.

Great job putting this together.

 

[Dude]

I wager that AFCE will be the strongest this upcoming season, any bettors=

 

[Dude]

No bets? well good night then maybe tomorrow someone will accept this gauntlet ... the glove has been thrown down