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Predict you Rivals 2015 Season

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Because that would be a regression from last season.

How do you figure? Michigan only won 5 games last year. Winning 6 or 7 would be a step in the right direction.
 

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How do you figure? Michigan only won 5 games last year. Winning 6 or 7 would be a step in the right direction.
We have an easier schedule this year. So just because we tack on a garbage game to this season doesn't mean much. It would be a regression because we'd be losing to all the same teams we lost to last year + PSU and BYU. Both of which shouldn't be super great teams this year and PSU we beat last year. It's assuming pretty much a worst case scenario; which is exactly what I predicted for OSU.
 

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Because that would be a regression from last season.

well, it can happen- and your team could actually be better...

We went through this at Texas. Strong's first year was a regression, record-wise, from Mack's last year. But, if you know football and watched both seasons, you can see that the team got better in some of the areas that were lacking in Mack's last three or four teams.

It's taking steps where it's hard, and building a team with a solid foundation, rather than going with the flash that wont last. At least that's the way I see it, and the way I bet it goes at Michigan. Just my :2cents:
 

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Impartial on the west coast and I could see Michigan finishing about the same as last year. you guys have them beating Minn and Rutgers but dont forget they lost to them last year. I have it at 4 wins and 4 swing games that could prob go either way and 4 losses.
 

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well, it can happen- and your team could actually be better...

We went through this at Texas. Strong's first year was a regression, record-wise, from Mack's last year. But, if you know football and watched both seasons, you can see that the team got better in some of the areas that were lacking in Mack's last three or four teams.

It's taking steps where it's hard, and building a team with a solid foundation, rather than going with the flash that wont last. At least that's the way I see it, and the way I bet it goes at Michigan. Just my :2cents:
The situations are different though. Our defensive coordinator stayed on staff and the defensive scheme is staying about the same. Ideally, it should improve with the consistency and returning starters from last year.

The offense was putrid last year. It honestly can't get much worse as we ranked near the bottom of all of football in a lot of major stats. This Iowa QB transfer provides us with at least a decent option at the position, leaps and bounds ahead of what Gardner gave us. Logically, that should mean an improvement on offense. Even if it's a slight one with no other positions improving, we should be a better team than what we saw last season.
 

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We have an easier schedule this year. So just because we tack on a garbage game to this season doesn't mean much. It would be a regression because we'd be losing to all the same teams we lost to last year + PSU and BYU. Both of which shouldn't be super great teams this year and PSU we beat last year. It's assuming pretty much a worst case scenario; which is exactly what I predicted for OSU.

Except your predicting Ohio State losing a game in which they are a 21 point favorite. Michigan isn't favored against Utah and if I had to guess right now they wouldn't be favored against PSU and the MD and Minnesota games would probably be toss up games. Do you see the difference? They're predicting Michigan to lose toss up games along with games we know Michigan won't be favored in(Utah, MSU, OSU) You're predicting they lose as a 21 point favorite.

And regression means decline. If Michigan loses to the same teams its not a regression. I could see Michigan win anywhere from 5-9 games. Anything in between that should be considered "reasonable"
 

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Any prediction under 16 wins for Michigan is an insult because you under estimate Harbaugh's ability.
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The situations are different though. Our defensive coordinator stayed on staff and the defensive scheme is staying about the same. Ideally, it should improve with the consistency and returning starters from last year.

The offense was putrid last year. It honestly can't get much worse as we ranked near the bottom of all of football in a lot of major stats. This Iowa QB transfer provides us with at least a decent option at the position, leaps and bounds ahead of what Gardner gave us. Logically, that should mean an improvement on offense. Even if it's a slight one with no other positions improving, we should be a better team than what we saw last season.

opposite here: defense is what sucked with Mack's last few teams- under Strong, it improved dramatically.

offense got a little worse, because still no experienced quarterback, and offensive line only had 6 guys total. They were not very good, and there was no one else to put in...
 

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Except your predicting Ohio State losing a game in which they are a 21 point favorite. Michigan isn't favored against Utah and if I had to guess right now they wouldn't be favored against PSU and the MD and Minnesota games would probably be toss up games. Do you see the difference? They're predicting Michigan to lose toss up games along with games we know Michigan won't be favored in(Utah, MSU, OSU) You're predicting they lose as a 21 point favorite.

And regression means decline. If Michigan loses to the same teams its not a regression. I could see Michigan win anywhere from 5-9 games. Anything in between that should be considered "reasonable"

Hoke stayed with Ohio State every single year, even with his bad teams. I consider that game a toss up game no matter what the betting sites say. And we have no idea if Michigan will be favored in the games. A national title winner isn't going to come off that and not be favored in most games the next season; despite being highly unlikely that they go undefeated the next year. So...I do consider that a toss up game just like Michigan being a 3-4 point underdog to Utah.
 

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I threw up a little bit in my mouth after I typed that but, yes, they are going to be hell on wheels for a couple of reasons. First, they have a super QB and in the Big 12 that's about all you need if the rest of the O is reasonably talented. OSU will score points by the bushel. And the second reason is Mike Gundy has it going right now. I've talked to some people who are tight with the OSU coaching staff and they say they've seen Mike Gundy really develop in the past year. I also listened to his long interview with the Sports Animal and I couldn't believe it was Mike Gundy talking; he was loose....he was confident....he wasn't the least bit defensive and he actually sounded happy. I'm afraid the Cowboys are going to be hard, hard, hard to handle this year if they get on a roll.

Who is the super QB? I did not see a super QB play for OSU last year
 

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opposite here: defense is what sucked with Mack's last few teams- under Strong, it improved dramatically.

offense got a little worse, because still no experienced quarterback, and offensive line only had 6 guys total. They were not very good, and there was no one else to put in...

That was the biggest problem and is still a major issue. The OL has more bodies, but still not enough to foster proper competition. Without competition and the ability to sit people, coaches are impotent
 

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The offense was putrid last year. It honestly can't get much worse as we ranked near the bottom of all of football in a lot of major stats.

Man, that's a dangerous thing to say...you should never assume you've hit rock bottom. No matter how bad things may seem, they can always get worse.
 

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Golson to visit Michigan this week
 

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opposite here: defense is what sucked with Mack's last few teams- under Strong, it improved dramatically.

offense got a little worse, because still no experienced quarterback, and offensive line only had 6 guys total. They were not very good, and there was no one else to put in...


Jefe, you're being too kind, bud. The offense didn't get a little worse, the offense went down as the 2nd worst offense in UT history. Ranked #110 in total offense (out of 125 schools), #106 in scoring offense, was shutout for the 1st time since 2004 and produced the 2nd worst total offense in a game EVER!!!! (59 yds vs. Arky). Not to mention, I think we set the Guiness Book of World Records on offense for 3 and outs in a season. Then you have bonehead coaching from our shitty OC throughout the season (he lost us the UCLA game after we recovered that fumble with 4 minutes left to go with the lead and instead of running time off the clock, his dumbass was still running no huddle and went 3 and out and burned like 40 seconds off the clock). You know my disdain for Watson, so anytime I can call him out I'll take advantage of it. He should have been fired immediately after the bowl game. He will be the reason this team loses 5-6 games this year and might be Strong's downfall if he stays loyal to Watson.
 

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Hoke stayed with Ohio State every single year, even with his bad teams. I consider that game a toss up game no matter what the betting sites say. And we have no idea if Michigan will be favored in the games. A national title winner isn't going to come off that and not be favored in most games the next season; despite being highly unlikely that they go undefeated the next year. So...I do consider that a toss up game just like Michigan being a 3-4 point underdog to Utah.

You're still trying to compare what you're doing, picking against them as a 21 point favorite, as the same thing when they are picking Michigan to lose toss up games(and win a toss up game too) You are being completely more unreasonable.
 

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Jefe, you're being too kind, bud. The offense didn't get a little worse, the offense went down as the 2nd worst offense in UT history. Ranked #110 in total offense (out of 125 schools), #106 in scoring offense, was shutout for the 1st time since 2004 and produced the 2nd worst total offense in a game EVER!!!! (59 yds vs. Arky). Not to mention, I think we set the Guiness Book of World Records on offense for 3 and outs in a season. Then you have bonehead coaching from our shitty OC throughout the season (he lost us the UCLA game after we recovered that fumble with 4 minutes left to go with the lead and instead of running time off the clock, his dumbass was still running no huddle and went 3 and out and burned like 40 seconds off the clock). You know my disdain for Watson, so anytime I can call him out I'll take advantage of it. He should have been fired immediately after the bowl game. He will be the reason this team loses 5-6 games this year and might be Strong's downfall if he stays loyal to Watson.

yes, they were historically bad. We basically flip-flopped our 'worst' from defense to offense. No doubt, the worst I've ever watched at Texas :L
 

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Who is the super QB? I did not see a super QB play for OSU last year

Mike Gundy screwed up big time last season. He didn't play Mason Rudolph until the very end of the season when he finally played the freshman out of a sense of desperation to turn the season around. He sent Rudolph into the Baylor game for his first start and Rudolph promptly threw for more yards than Bryce Petty even though Baylor won. He looked very good. Then he started against OU and won that game. He went into his third start in the bowl game against Washington and won that one too going 17/26 for nearly 300 yards. This kid is a winner.
 

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You're still trying to compare what you're doing, picking against them as a 21 point favorite, as the same thing when they are picking Michigan to lose toss up games(and win a toss up game too) You are being completely more unreasonable.
I just don't see what odds have to do with this discussion? It's a proven fact that Mich and OSU is a close game almost every year outside of the Rich Rod era. It's irrelevant to what the odds makers think 6 months away from the game being played.
 
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