MBBRL Suicide "B" Draft Grades by the Bandit

[broncosmitty]

I wanted Rodgers in the first round having the tenth pick. Stafford would not have been there after the turn because Smitty was licking his chops to get his QB. Chris Johnson: I was looking at RB and felt he was the best available at that time. I do not like the Knowshon pick, I didn't know at the time about his issues in Miami. The more time that goes by, the more it looks like Pierce will be the starter in Baltimore, and I can live with being lucky if it works out. It came down to Rudolph and Pitta when I needed a TE and couldn't believe that both were still there. I took Rudolph because I already had Pierce and Torry Smith of Baltimore.




All in all a good job Bandit. I enjoyed reading your writeups for both leagues. This being my second draft of this nature, I have found them to be enjoyable even if all my luck was bad in the baseball one.

You definitely wouldn't have got another shot at Staff. That was one of several guys you nabbed right before me. (And thanks for making my second highest score of the week a losing one.)

 

[Bandit]

The only comment i disagree with you at my team is the aaron rodgers/lacy comment... You forget that silverfalco picked andrew luck in the first round... there is no way i would have gotten Rodgers...

That could be true, or he could have just really wanted Andrew Luck and he wasn't a fan of Rodgers, because just going by rankings, Stafford would have been his next logical choice over Luck anyway.

 

[SteelersPride]

awesome write ups, and yeah my rb2 may be weak, but i took richardson and gerhart hoping to hit with one of them the other can stink, but they both have huge oppurtunity

 

[TKOSpikes]

Wicked stuff, Canes! Can't wait for your in-season recaps!

 

[Xponentialchaos]

QB – Robert Griffin III (6) Colin Kaepernick (7)
RB – Eddie Lacy (1) Zac Stacy (3) Andre Ellington (4) Davonta Freeman (12)
WR – A.J. Green (2) Andre Johnson (5) Riley Cooper (9) Danny Amendola (10) Brandin Cooks (11)
TE – Martellus Bennett (13)
D/ST – 49ers (8)
K – Adam Vinitieri (14)

You received a gift when Eddie Lacy fell to you with the 9th pick, but you still had to make it.I like the A.J. Green pick in the 2nd and love the Zac Stacy pick in the 3rd.Ellington in the 4th is right along with his ADP although I’ve already expressed my concerns with his durability.As a RB3 though it was worth the pick.Andre Johnson in the 5th was great value also.Seriously great first 5 rounds.Robert Griffin in the 6th was fine if you think he’s going to have a bounce back year and I understand backing him up immediately with Kaepernick, but I still would have waited at least 2 more rounds and no he wouldn’t have been there but plenty of adequate qb’s would have been.I don’t really think it ended up hurting your draft that much though, all it did was make your WR3 a little weaker than some, but Riley Cooper was a good pick in the 9th and might turn out to be the #1 receiver in Philly.I like Cooks in the 11th and Davonta Freeman was certainly worth a flyer in the 12th given Steven Jackson’s injury history.Waiting until the 13th round left you with Martellus Bennett at tight end, but he’s solid.Overall a great draft.

Best Pick: Zac Stacy with the 33rd pick was a major steal.If I hadn’t gone RB, RB with my first two picks he would have never lasted past me in the 3rd.

Worst Pick: Colin Kaepernick with the 81st pick after taking Robert Griffin III the round before.I understand wanting to have a backup for RGIII given his injury history, but round 7 is awfully early.

Bye Week Issues:Week 4 you won’t have A.J. Green, Zac Stacy or Andre Ellington.You have the backups but it always sucks to not have your 2nd, 3rd, and 4th round picks.

Overall Grade: B+

Prediction: 9-6 (3rd place)

Bandit, you = amazing. This is awesome. Great to have a legitimate fantasy analysis for our very own league. Well done sir.

As for the Kaepernick pick, I agree that this was going to be the move that would be viewed as my worst selection. I certainly could have waited a few rounds for a backup QB, but I really wanted Kaepernick. I'm very optimistic about him this year and it's not just me being a homer.

San Francisco has the best group of wide receivers that we have had in a very long time. Crabtree was Kaep's go-to-guy before he got injured and I loved the chemistry they had. Kaep's running ability along with his now 4 proven receiving targets make me feel that he has a very good shot at going off this year as long as he improves in going through his progressions. I feel similarly about RG3, especially with the addition of Desean Jackson.

I'm expecting to alternate between RG3 and Kaepernick depending on who gets hot. I just couldn't resist going back-to-back QB's. But we will see how it works out.

 

[averagejoe]

Smitty and the Romosapiens

You had me at "Romosapiens." lol

I think bandit based his qb comment on ADP, the only problem with ADP is that all drafts have a life to themselves... IN this particular draft, if you wanted a big QB you needed to pick him early...

That's a nice point, Milk. Certain owners do have specific tendencies that factor into a draft. That said, I still lean towards Bandit's way of thinking. If an owner is deviating from the ADP, then the owner is really deviating from the BPA (best player available). That's their choice. C'est la vie.

 

[SmokingMonkey]

You had me at "Romosapiens." lol



That's a nice point, Milk. Certain owners do have specific tendencies that factor into a draft. That said, I still lean towards Bandit's way of thinking. If an owner is deviating from the ADP, then the owner is really deviating from the BPA (best player available). That's their choice. C'est la vie.

honestly, I try to deviate at least 1-2 times, just to try to hit that HR. I don't fill my roster with those types of picks though. cause they never quite finish like they are ranked at the beginning. Just have to listen to your inner fantasy beast to know when to let one fall and jump up for one.

 

[MilkSpiller22]

You had me at "Romosapiens." lol



That's a nice point, Milk. Certain owners do have specific tendencies that factor into a draft. That said, I still lean towards Bandit's way of thinking. If an owner is deviating from the ADP, then the owner is really deviating from the BPA (best player available). That's their choice. C'est la vie.

but ADP is just an average, hence the A part... all drafts are going to have its own identity... and it will change the ADP... the trick is just not to reach too much... I dont think picking a Big 3 QB in the first round is reaching at all...

I am not sure if BPA is ever the Best way to go! in fantasy!!

Also ADP is based on the consensus of fantasy analysists and others, just because they say something does not make it true... they are wrong as often as any of us...

 

[broncosmitty]

You had me at "Romosapiens." lol

I don't remember what my team is officially named right now. But it's getting changed!

 

[TREFF]

but ADP is just an average, hence the A part... all drafts are going to have its own identity... and it will change the ADP... the trick is just not to reach too much... I dont think picking a Big 3 QB in the first round is reaching at all...

I am not sure if BPA is ever the Best way to go! in fantasy!!

Also ADP is based on the consensus of fantasy analysists and others, just because they say something does not make it true... they are wrong as often as any of us...

Couldn't possibly disagree any more. It's ALWAYS the best way to go.

 

[obxyankeefan]

Couldn't possibly disagree any more. It's ALWAYS the best way to go.

After the first few rounds, I tend to look at a position. Draft the BPA for that position, that doens't put me in a bind in Byes.

 

[Bandit]

but ADP is just an average, hence the A part... all drafts are going to have its own identity... and it will change the ADP... the trick is just not to reach too much... I dont think picking a Big 3 QB in the first round is reaching at all...

I am not sure if BPA is ever the Best way to go! in fantasy!!

Also ADP is based on the consensus of fantasy analysists and others, just because they say something does not make it true... they are wrong as often as any of us...

I agree that each draft has its own identity, but when you get into the really big money leagues with guys that actually make their living doing fantasy football, they almost all use some form of value based drafting taking the best value available player based on his value in that round regardless of position. Some of the algorithm based software is expensive and they plug each pick into the software and it will tell them the percentage of how much value all the players available have usually giving you a choice of the top 4, much like the fantasy pros site will do, but with much more complicated statistical analysis. So, there must be some kind of merit to it. But the problem with drafting a 12 team league like that is there is hardly any variation and it's BORING!!! That's why I enjoy the MBBRL drafts so much because we are all different in our own ways and all like certain players more than others. With that being said though, I can only base my analysis on the average when I have only drafted a league with a few of you. If I was doing the analysis on my home league it would have been a little different.

 

[Bandit]

Couldn't possibly disagree any more. It's ALWAYS the best way to go.

 

[broncosmitty]

On the whole BPA thing.... Do you guys simply leave certain players off your lists altogether. I do in general in fantasy. Even more so in the two Suicides I've done. Some of the confidence in players I just don't see. (This could be on account of numerous reasons. My ignorance being an obvious one.)And to me, missing out on a player and selecting another, who performs/produces less, would not be as frustrating as drafting a player I didn't want, based on BPA, then having them underperform the player I could have reached for. (That was so many commas I've confused myself.)

 

[obxyankeefan]

On the whole BPA thing.... Do you guys simply leave certain players off your lists altogether. I do in general in fantasy. Even more so in the two Suicides I've done. Some of the confidence in players I just don't see. (This could be on account of numerous reasons. My ignorance being an obvious one.)And to me, missing out on a player and selecting another, who performs/produces less, would not be as frustrating as drafting a player I didn't want, based on BPA, then having them underperform the player I could have reached for. (That was so many commas I've confused myself.)

Yes

 

[obxyankeefan]

On the whole BPA thing.... Do you guys simply leave certain players off your lists altogether. I do in general in fantasy. Even more so in the two Suicides I've done. Some of the confidence in players I just don't see. (This could be on account of numerous reasons. My ignorance being an obvious one.)And to me, missing out on a player and selecting another, who performs/produces less, would not be as frustrating as drafting a player I didn't want, based on BPA, then having them underperform the player I could have reached for. (That was so many commas I've confused myself.)

Figured just a "Yes" would confuse you even more.


I have certain players I will not draft no matter what. I will just ignore them no matter where they are on the ADP. Then I have certain players I like to overreach for. (Like a crtain Marlins pitcher that I can't do that for anymore, because I am in too many drafts with Tigers fans)

 

[broncosmitty]

Figured just a "Yes" would confuse you even more.


I have certain players I will not draft no matter what. I will just ignore them no matter where they are on the ADP. Then I have certain players I like to overreach for. (Like a crtain Marlins pitcher that I can't do that for anymore, because I am in too many drafts with Tigers fans)

Hahaha. Thanks for clarifying obx. My head might have exploded! (Satellite goes out just as the Derby Is getting good. I think, I don't know... Stupid complete signal loss.). The guys Id normally shy away from due to injury concerns, team changes, regime changes and whatnot I just left off my radar all together. (I always was a sucker for Dontrelle too: )

 

[MilkSpiller22]

On the whole BPA thing.... Do you guys simply leave certain players off your lists altogether. I do in general in fantasy. Even more so in the two Suicides I've done. Some of the confidence in players I just don't see. (This could be on account of numerous reasons. My ignorance being an obvious one.)And to me, missing out on a player and selecting another, who performs/produces less, would not be as frustrating as drafting a player I didn't want, based on BPA, then having them underperform the player I could have reached for. (That was so many commas I've confused myself.)

this was my point, I dont use an actual ADP list, i use What player do i want and will he fall to me at a later round game... If i want someone and i dont think he will fall to me at my next pick, i am not afraid to go off ADP... Because again, ADP is only an average it is not set in stone, in fact it constantly changes... How can you follow a constantly changing list that have different variations from site to site?? I know i cant... So, with that i dont believe there is one BPA...


Canes, i hope you dont think i am criticizing you... i am not, i should probably start this in a new thread, just so it doesnt look like i am not appreciative for our write-ups... Again, i think they are very impressive and i agree with 90% of what you wrote...

 

[obxyankeefan]

Hahaha. Thanks for clarifying obx. My head might have exploded! (Satellite goes out just as the Derby Is getting good. I think, I don't know... Stupid complete signal loss.). The guys Id normally shy away from due to injury concerns, team changes, regime changes and whatnot I just left off my radar all together. (I always was a sucker for Dontrelle too: )

Not Dontrelle. I have always enjoyed watching Anibel pitch.

 

[broncosmitty]

this was my point, I dont use an actual ADP list, i use What player do i want and will he fall to me at a later round game... If i want someone and i dont think he will fall to me at my next pick, i am not afraid to go off ADP... Because again, ADP is only an average it is not set in stone, in fact it constantly changes... How can you follow a constantly changing list that have different variations from site to site?? I know i cant... So, with that i dont believe there is one BPA...


Canes, i hope you dont think i am criticizing you... i am not, i should probably start this in a new thread, just so it doesnt look like i am not appreciative for our write-ups... Again, i think they are very impressive and i agree with 90% of what you wrote...

I'll use ADP as a loose guideline. But there always are players that Im like "Psssshhhh, prolly freakin' not." ranked above players that seem to have a great opportunity to excel. I also feel very much out of my league at times on here fantasy wise. (I wasn't kidding when I mentioned my ignorance in the last post.). So Im more or less trying to soak up as much as I can with drafting season drawing near. (Atleast nearer compared to when we started this.). So many aspects to what it is that makes up a strong draft have came out in our B draft and from reading the Adraft thread. Im just trying to figure out how much of my old ways I should keep and how much I should throw away. (Same thing happened thanks to the thread where you discussed keepers. Specifically receivers. I would have blindly went keeper. Knee jerk reaction style.). But like you said, maybe another thread. But that's what I like about the Suicide, and Bandits breakdown. The DRAFT is so important. Really gets the mind working.