Tough loss

[STBR 27]

I didn't get to see your game this week to be able to comment on the pass interference calls you are talking about, although I did get to see the game last week. I think it's funny how fans in general (I'm sure I'm guilty of it at times too) look at the loses and talk about how we "should have" won that game. But it is rare we look at the wins and talk about how we "should have" lost that game. The texans game should've been a L for you guys if Schaub didn't throw a terrible pass. Only reason I say that is because your offense wasn't clicking in that game (better in the 2nd half yes but not good). I would've put money on texans stopping you guys from a TD in regulation with your battered Oline.. But good teams make plays which Sherman obviously did.

I think most Hawks fans realize we should have beat the Colts, but we also should have lost to the Texans, so in the end it is a wash. Most probably thought we were going to lose at least one of these games anyway and it just worked out the be the opposite than most thought.

We were also hoping the Texans wouldn't roll over and die in SF, but that pick 6 on Schaub's first pass seemed to kill any hopes they had of winning that game.

 

[NinerFan52]

I think the Sherman pick 6 put doubts in the Texan players mind about Schaub. The Niners pick 6 to open the game killed any hope they had. Regardless of the Niners or Seahawks taking advantage, Schaub was the one ultimately responsible for his teams loses and ultimate defeated attitude.

 

[STBR 27]

4 pick 6's in consecutive games will do that to a guy and when the starting QB is struggling, so is the entire team. It will be interesting to see if the Texans will be able to get back on track or if they will continue to struggle.

 

[yossarian]

You are wrong, they will receive an A++ grade for this game and will probably be officiating our first playoff game assuming we get one. The NFL would much rather have the Niners win our division and advance.

Why is that? Let's assume for one second that the NFL instructs it's officials on being favorable to some teams and not others, and let's assume that in all the years that this has been going on no one has really talked about it, despite the number of people that would have had to have been involved. Or better yet, let's assume that this just started the last year when the Seahawks got good and the NFL decided after 80 years of being in the business that all of a sudden no that they didn't want the Seahawks to win and wanted the 49ers to win the division. WHY? The Seahawks have a gorgeous stadium, the 12th man stories would be great leading up to the playoff games if they had homefield advantage, and Paul Allen is the richest owner in the NFL. It would be great for ratings for people to watch the Hawks home crowd break noise barriers. What you're saying makes no sense whatsoever.

 

[octagondd]

The refs were frustrating, both ways, but ultimately I was unhappy with the offensive play calling inside the 30 and I really did not understand why the defense did not adjust to a deeper, keep the play in front of you formation. I would have rathered Luck pick us apart down the field and have a tough time getting it in the endzone, then have big plays beat us over the top. That is our D's real weakness, and they hit it perfectly. It is very tough for teams to score on us in the redzone. I know we pride ourselves on tight coverage and disrupting the routes, but if they are beating it, you have to adjust.

Indy is a tough team, and we dominated them most of the game, but could not get TDs and could not stop the big plays. Overall, I am fairly happy how the team played, considering our O-line issues. Not an excuse, because we have to play with who we have, but knowing we have 5 talented players coming back in the next 3-5 weeks, is a nice thought.

 

[Thisnamewasntaken]

An "L" is an "L" and almost doesn't count but I'm sick of refs. Just call a fair game. I can just see it now if we do make it to the playoffs. It'll be the Superbowl all over again.

 

[Screamin12th]

The Texans laid down and Died for San Fran. I myself believe that had everything to do with the loss the week before. How they lost last week killed them then the pick 6 to start against San Fran and they folded.

 

[DonyellFreak]

I didn't get to see your game this week to be able to comment on the pass interference calls you are talking about, although I did get to see the game last week. I think it's funny how fans in general (I'm sure I'm guilty of it at times too) look at the loses and talk about how we "should have" won that game. But it is rare we look at the wins and talk about how we "should have" lost that game. The texans game should've been a L for you guys if Schaub didn't throw a terrible pass. Only reason I say that is because your offense wasn't clicking in that game (better in the 2nd half yes but not good). I would've put money on texans stopping you guys from a TD in regulation with your battered Oline.. But good teams make plays which Sherman obviously did.

Many people even Seahawk fans are over looking there was still time and timeouts left in that game even if Richard just breaks that pass up it was 3rd down and just beyond field goal range. Russell would have gotten the ball and a chance to get us tied up, that didn't work out so good for fans of the Seahawks yesterday but on the road against a quality team I'm happy if Russell and crew have the ball and a chance to tie or win the game at the end.

 

[Sharkonabicycle]

Seattle just needs to get through week 7, 6-1. Tennessee at home shouldn't be horrible (road might worry me) and the Cards are a bit of a mess this year although they got one if not their best defensive player back.

That said, if we get through week 7, 6-1 - we will have Harvin, Unger, Giac back and Irvin will have had plenty of time to wear rust off. Hopefully we get Okung back during the tough stretch against Atlanta, NO, San Fran @.

 

[SeattleOspreys]

expect more crooked officiating to negate any SHOULD BE wins.
That combined with Bevell and his league worst play calling, I cant assume any game is a win.

If there is one Hawk concern, it's still is and will be Bevell. He's not going to call a perfect game and I'm not expecting it, but Bevell is weak. The guy's sole purpose is to construct a game plan based on our current OL weakness vs an oppositions strengths or areas to exploit.

I see none of that. It appears Bevell wakes up on Sunday after a week in Hawaii, picks up his laminated play sheet and says let's go boys.

Does he not understand how effective a screen game can be? Lynch in space is deadly. You screen at the op's best pass rusher. RWill is most effective when Bevell has to scrap the original playbook when we're behind. Pats, Chicago, Skins, last Houston drive. I don't want to put all of the blame on Bevell but it's not a coincidence that our past 2 years worth of losses were all decided by 7 or less. Football coordinators have more impact on the team's success than any other sport.

I'm not sure what Pete sees in Bevell. That is my one concern in what is a f'in kick ass team that is a blast to watch on Thurs/Sun/Mon and if that's my only complaint, life is good in Hawkville.

 

[seattlefan75]

i totally agree the only reason why i havent been bashing bevell more is because last year our running game looked very good, now so far this season it has been average and its really exposing our passing game.

with that being said i think its time to look at different options at TE because zach miller isnt doing to much with this offense and neither is willison, maybe its because there used more as blocking TEs in this offense or what but they are non existant in this passing game unless were in the redzone

 

[dude82]

i totally agree the only reason why i havent been bashing bevell more is because last year our running game looked very good, now so far this season it has been average and its really exposing our passing game.

with that being said i think its time to look at different options at TE because zach miller isnt doing to much with this offense and neither is willison, maybe its because there used more as blocking TEs in this offense or what but they are non existant in this passing game unless were in the redzone

Almost 160 yards per game on the ground is average? It's good for second best in the league. Lynch is 3rd in the league in yards, 5th in yards per game and tied for 4th in rushing touchdowns. He's also tied for 2nd in rushes over 20 yards and tied for 5th in first downs. If those numbers are average, I'd love to see what great numbers look like. Consider, too, that opposing defenses pretty much know we can't pass the ball with much effectiveness and those rushing numbers look even more impressive.

The TE situation is disappointing, but as usual, it's not because the tight ends we have are incapable of being offensive threats. If we didn't have to keep using them as blockers all the time, we'd be getting more output from them. That's not their fault.

Our passing game is getting exposed because our offensive line started the season looking shoddy even with everyone healthy and has looked even worse ever since guys started going down with injuries. You should also keep in mind that the pass defenses we've been facing so far have been some of the best in the league. We've faced the #'s 1, 2, 6, 8 and 10 pass defenses in the league this year and Tennessee comes in at #9. You face six of the top 10 pass defenses in the league in the first six weeks of the season with a shoddy/banged up offensive line and your passing offense isn't going to look that good.

 

[SeattleOspreys]

Almost 160 yards per game on the ground is average? It's good for second best in the league. Lynch is 3rd in the league in yards, 5th in yards per game and tied for 4th in rushing touchdowns. He's also tied for 2nd in rushes over 20 yards and tied for 5th in first downs. If those numbers are average, I'd love to see what great numbers look like. Consider, too, that opposing defenses pretty much know we can't pass the ball with much effectiveness and those rushing numbers look even more impressive.

The TE situation is disappointing, but as usual, it's not because the tight ends we have are incapable of being offensive threats. If we didn't have to keep using them as blockers all the time, we'd be getting more output from them. That's not their fault.

Our passing game is getting exposed because our offensive line started the season looking shoddy even with everyone healthy and has looked even worse ever since guys started going down with injuries. You should also keep in mind that the pass defenses we've been facing so far have been some of the best in the league. We've faced the #'s 1, 2, 6, 8 and 10 pass defenses in the league this year and Tennessee comes in at #9. You face six of the top 10 pass defenses in the league in the first six weeks of the season with a shoddy/banged up offensive line and your passing offense isn't going to look that good.

Bevell has no passing game plan, dude. It's extremely obvious even with our OL issues. It's not all on him but if he calls plays that RWill can't audible out of and has to execute against a formation that isn't condusive to success, what do you call it?

I'd call it a poor Offensive game plan by our O-Co. Good O-Co's can compensate with that passing protecting OL, especially when we are pounding the rock so successfully. If we couldn't run the ball then it makes it impossible to pass but a pound the rock O allows a team to pass effectively ( even against quality D's) because they have to focus more on the run.

I don't want to get in a pissing match about Bevell because I love this squad and support them 99.9%, it's that .1% of Bevell up against a good D that he looks overmatched and scares the crap out of me come playoff time. His 1st half play calling at Atlanta was atrocious. Down by 20, sure, he scrapped the lamination and it was open it up w/ little rushing attack. It can be done, dude. You just have to look for it.

 

[dude82]

Bevell has no passing game plan, dude. It's extremely obvious even with our OL issues. It's not all on him but if he calls plays that RWill can't audible out of and has to execute against a formation that isn't condusive to success, what do you call it?

I'd call it a poor Offensive game plan by our O-Co. Good O-Co's can compensate with that passing protecting OL, especially when we are pounding the rock so successfully. If we couldn't run the ball then it makes it impossible to pass but a pound the rock O allows a team to pass effectively ( even against quality D's) because they have to focus more on the run.

I don't want to get in a pissing match about Bevell because I love this squad and support them 99.9%, it's that .1% of Bevell up against a good D that he looks overmatched and scares the crap out of me come playoff time. His 1st half play calling at Atlanta was atrocious. Down by 20, sure, he scrapped the lamination and it was open it up w/ little rushing attack. It can be done, dude. You just have to look for it.

I'm not gonna pretend that Bevell is great or anything, but by putting so much of the blame for the failures of the passing offense on his shoulders, it kind of glosses over the fact that you can't have a consistently effective passing game if your quarterback has to keep running for his life. We're putting up 27 points a game, so either he's not getting as much credit as he should be getting or the players have done a really, really good job of covering up his ineptitude. With the second best rushing attack in the league (remember he's in charge of calling those plays too), maybe it's a little of both.

 

[seattlefan75]

as far as the running game goes marshawn on paper has been doing pretty well but you can look at it the other way too. he has scored a total of 4 TDs this season 3 of which was in 1 game so that means 3 of our 5 games played he didnt get in the endzone and he is avg 82 yards a game (i dont count RW's scrambling yards) which isnt bad but its not great either especially if the goal is to win a superbowl this year....

maybe we should look to get michael robinson back instead of the deaf guy playing FB

 

[dude82]

as far as the running game goes marshawn on paper has been doing pretty well but you can look at it the other way too. he has scored a total of 4 TDs this season 3 of which was in 1 game so that means 3 of our 5 games played he didnt get in the endzone and he is avg 82 yards a game (i dont count RW's scrambling yards) which isnt bad but its not great either especially if the goal is to win a superbowl this year....

maybe we should look to get michael robinson back instead of the deaf guy playing FB

That 82 yards per game is still good for 5th in the league and whether you personally want to count Wilson's yards or not, they do count on the stat sheet and they've been crucial yards in a lot of situations. The "deaf guy", as you call him, has a name... it is Derrick Coleman. I'm sure he'd appreciate it if you used his name instead of calling him "the deaf guy". I'd like to see Lynch get into the endzone more too, but I'd like to see anybody on the offense get into the endzone more. The point is... the rushing attack is way better than "average" and isn't the problem on offense, nor is it "exposing" the passing game. The passing game is exposing itself.

 

[octagondd]

I think the issue is the run game seems to be fine between the 20s, but inside the redzone, either Bevell is calling pass, or we are not making lanes for Beast. I would have to go back and look at the play by plays, but it is my assumption that we have gone to more of a pass offense in the redzone which is weird since our receivers can't get open unless RW scrambles.

 

[geneh_33]

Tough loss? You guys don't have any idea what a tough loss is. Please. You lost one stinking game. Just get your crap back together again and go out and kick ass like you've been doing. I don't want to hear any more Seattle guys crying about a "tough loss" again.

 

[boogiewithstu2007]

Tough loss? You guys don't have any idea what a tough loss is. Please. You lost one stinking game. Just get your crap back together again and go out and kick ass like you've been doing. I don't want to hear any more Seattle guys crying about a "tough loss" again.

lol... There are always areas teams need to improve ... Right now we just need to get our O-line back and healthy down the stretch...

 

[Perpetual_Beast_Mode]

I'm not gonna pretend that Bevell is great or anything, but by putting so much of the blame for the failures of the passing offense on his shoulders, it kind of glosses over the fact that you can't have a consistently effective passing game if your quarterback has to keep running for his life.

Very true. I was listening to a sports talk show on AM 1090 and they said that Russell Wilson was under duress on 22 of his 42 pass attempts, which is more than half, of course.