RG3 wasnt ready

[deanpet21]

There is no doubt in my mind that RG3 should have not played this game. We win this game with Kirk Cousins at QB. That is 2 wins shanny blew on us b/c of the bullcrap hype of rg3 coming back. That had to be the worst offensive frist half in Redskins history. A benching was wanrranted but shanny doenst have the balls to do it. Any other qb would have been benched but the hype was too strong for him. Did we even get a first down? All three turnovers were RG3 fault. The pitch play in the endzone was an awful call to start with but rg3 had to put the ball on Morris' numbers he had to reach for it. its on rg3.

His mechanics, velocity on the ball, and decision making were all off last night. Our defense did the best they could to keep us in the game. No doubt in my mind that we win this game with Cousins. I am so disgusted right now. There is no way that the eagles are a good team. We made them look unbeleivabe last night b/c of our inept offense. RG3 put his ego ahead of this teams interests again.

 

[RoboticDreams]

There is no doubt in my mind that RG3 should have not played this game. We win this game with Kirk Cousins at QB. That is 2 wins shanny blew on us b/c of the bullcrap hype of rg3 coming back. That had to be the worst offensive frist half in Redskins history. A benching was wanrranted but shanny doenst have the balls to do it. Any other qb would have been benched but the hype was too strong for him. Did we even get a first down? All three turnovers were RG3 fault. The pitch play in the endzone was an awful call to start with but rg3 had to put the ball on Morris' numbers he had to reach for it. its on rg3.

His mechanics, velocity on the ball, and decision making were all off last night. Our defense did the best they could to keep us in the game. No doubt in my mind that we win this game with Cousins. I am so disgusted right now. There is no way that the eagles are a good team. We made them look unbeleivabe last night b/c of our inept offense. RG3 put his ego ahead of this teams interests again.

I agree with this entire post.

 

[SoCalWizFan]

Time to move on.

First of all - how was the 1st fumble by Morris (not the one in the endzone) RG3's fault? No way. I agree with RG3 playing horribly in the 1st half, but I would put that more on them not playing him at all in the preseason (I was wrong about this one). However - you can't change what already happened. The good play by RG3 in the 2nd half bodes well for the remainder of the season.

I would be very careful about suggesting benching RG3 for reasons other than injury. The would be opening up a can of worms that could have all types of negative consequences. Also - you can't put the entire blame for the Eagles stellar 1st half on RG3. He wasn't the one making poor tackles & not covering anyone.

I would look at this as a learning experience & move on. HTTR

 

[j_y19]

He wasn't ready because he hasn't played. So how is he supposed to get used to playing other than by playing? Do you suggest we should hold him out the entire year so he can get prepared next preseason?

You don't bench your franchise QB because he has a bad half. Give me a freaking break, Dean. Chill out.

 

[JDM]

He was uncomfortable in the pocket and this was the biggest reason he had issues. You have to let him play to get back to form.

He started to settle in after it was a little too late, and this is crucial for the skins to be a contender.

 

[deanpet21]

I meant the pitch play in the endzone was rg3 fault. Obviously the Morris fumble was his fault. That's the problem shany is worried about what other people think and he cant coach this team. The better qb was on the bench last night. Yes the defense missed tackles and blew coverage's but they played good enough to win. The 1st half offense was inexcusable. The eagles should of blew us out but they didn't b/c of our defense.

 

[deanpet21]

j_y19 I never said sit him out for the year but he shouldn't of played last night. If you want to knock the rust off him wait until the Raiders game. How could shanny not see his bad mechanics in practices?? the hype forced him to play. we have a very weak minded coach.

 

[JDM]

Cousins has never, under any circumstances, been a better QB than RG3. RG3 was twice the option cousins was last year with his knee shredded to shit.

 

[deanpet21]

how can you say that? every time Cousins is in the game he produces. We win with Cousins last night no doubt.

 

[SoCalWizFan]

I meant the pitch play in the endzone was rg3 fault. Obviously the Morris fumble was his fault. That's the problem shany is worried about what other people think and he cant coach this team. The better qb was on the bench last night. Yes the defense missed tackles and blew coverage's but they played good enough to win. The 1st half offense was inexcusable. The eagles should of blew us out but they didn't b/c of our defense.

First of all - the two previous posters made a good pt about RG3 needing to play to shake off the rust - you can't put that off forever. Also - it is not simply a matter of Shanahan worrying about what other people think (if you believe that then you must not know him very well - along with Belichick he is probably the last NFL coach who cares what people think).

If you bench RG3 (for reasons other than injury) you are risking things such as 1.) dividing the team & 2.) almost daring RG3 to revert back to the more risky style in an effort to pull out games. It is not as easy as you think. Stop creating a QB controversy where one does not exist.

Do you really believe that Shanahan cannot coach this team? Are you for real? Do you remember the previous coaches before him? Get real. This is as good as this team has been for some time. Sure they have issues (like every team), but they are heading in the right direction. Let's just wait & see how they react over the next several games before going overboard.

 

[JDM]

No, you don't. The eagles ran all over you.

You also set griffin back for probably 2 weeks or more by benching him.

 

[SoCalWizFan]

how can you say that? every time Cousins is in the game he produces. We win with Cousins last night no doubt.

That is just plain crazy. Cousins may be a good backup & probably can start for several teams, but no way is he at RG3's level. If that is the case why did he slide so far in the draft? Also - Cousins has a very small sample size in terms of results & you are also forgetting the Falcons game where he made several mistakes.

Again - Cousins appears to be pretty good but stating that he is as good as RG3 is nuts.

 

[deanpet21]

im not creating a controversy. rg3 is not ready. there is intense outside pressure for him to start week1. did you look at his mechanics last night? even gruden was bashing him. If I seen that in practice there is no way he starts in week 1. Not when you have a good backup qb to go to. Cousins wins this game no problem. im not saying cousins should be the full time starter but you can wait to bring back rg3. what was the rush??

Right now Cousins is the better QB. That first half was inexcusable. Stop making excuses for rg3. I love him but he shouldn't of been out there.

 

[Brock2005]

I disagree completely. RG3 was CLEARLY rusty in the first half. He was afraid of the rush and delivering the ball off of his back foot alot. It was like a preseason game for him. Fortunately, in the second half he settled down, showed good mobility, moved the team and looked like himself. Benching him would not have helped us long term Cousins is NOT our starter. The only way to get RG3 on track was to play it out. It's only one loss. We don't need to overreact and do dumb shit to try and win one game. The season is a marathon, not a sprint.

 

[JDM]

His mechanics were bad because he wasn't comfortable in the pocket and wasn't comfortable stepping into his throws. The only way to get that back is to see live action. You can't simulate that in practice.

 

[SoCalWizFan]

No, you don't. The eagles ran all over you.

You also set griffin back for probably 2 weeks or more by benching him.

I think it is fans letting their emotions get the best of them. I was the same way in the middle of the game last night. Having had some time to think about this I can be a bit more objective. Like all games - the answers are not always black & white. The loss was a combination of things including poor play by RG3 & the offense in the 1st half, poor tackling & coverage by the Skins D, horrible special teams play especially in the return game & just flat out being outcoached for much of the game.

As I alluded to previously - I agree with your second point. You don't bench a QB like that (unless he was hurt or if he had a really bad game - something like 5 Ints in a half where even RG3 would want to be benched).

Time for everyone to calm down.

 

[JDM]

I don't bench a guy after 5 picks in a half, either. Injury is the only reason you bench an established starter.

 

[Kevin12773]

Whole team (- Kerrigan) sucked period.
I think that's all that needs said.

 

[RobBase]

how can you say that? every time Cousins is in the game he produces. We win with Cousins last night no doubt.

Kirk Cousins doesn't play defense. Don't be fooled by the bogus "comeback" the Skins produced while the Eagles sat back in prevent defense for most of the 2nd half. You guys took a tough loss to a good team. It happens. Next week is a new game.

 

[Warpath]

He's going to have to knock off the rust. Can only do that with in game reps. Sit him on the bench and when you put him in 4 weeks later there would still be the issue of rust.