Can Kobe be Best Player Again After Injury

[b_lake]

Really just logical that if Kobe is using then Lebron and Wade are absolutely users - that's the reason they have won two championship titles in a row. In fact Jason Kidd was obviously a user as well when he played

I'm horribly failing to see the logic in your post...Mind pointing it out to me?

 

[True Lakers Fan]

I'm horribly failing to see the logic in your post...Mind pointing it out to me?

Very simpe when you think about it - The others in here have pointed out that without question - That Kobe is a proven doper. My response is that the same evidence in their hands that proves Kobe is a user, also proves that their favorite players are also users.

Remember - I haven't seen their evidence, but I am very confident that the evidence proves likewise for all of the players

 

[True Lakers Fan]

ok first, this is a little high imo I was thinking in the 70s though but then....



If you think that every one is using then the Heat would not have had any unfair advantage so why is that why they won?

Troll fail level 7.

They obviously used twice as much dopes

Besides that drugs and medicine is not a science - what works for one person can go against another person

 

[True Lakers Fan]

Kobe is on PEDs, how do you think he recovered so fadt abd he isn't close to be the best, not in last 5.

So is Lebron and Wade - it's obvious the way they won

 

[True Lakers Fan]

ok first, this is a little high imo I was thinking in the 70s though but then....



If you think that every one is using then the Heat would not have had any unfair advantage so why is that why they won?

Troll fail level 7.

THE BIGGEST TROLL IN HERE CALLING OUT OTHER TROLLS - THAT'S RICH

The pot just called the kettle black

 

[True Lakers Fan]

Oh and by the way - just for the fun of it Blackbelt disciple is an ass

 

[b_lake]

Very simpe when you think about it - The others in here have pointed out that without question - That Kobe is a proven doper. My response is that the same evidence in their hands that proves Kobe is a user, also proves that their favorite players are also users.

Remember - I haven't seen their evidence, but I am very confident that the evidence proves likewise for all of the players

But isn't Kobe the posterboy for some experimental treatment in Germany?

 

[OutlawImmortal]

I'm horribly failing to see the logic in your post...Mind pointing it out to me?

LeBron's publicist just went to a notorious PED clinic to check out a diet, she had no idea the diet had PED's part of the plan. Sure.

 

[b_lake]

LeBron's publicist just went to a notorious PED clinic to check out a diet, she had no idea the diet had PED's part of the plan. Sure.

His publicist? Doesn't that go against just about everything she should be doing to protect his image?

I wouldn't be surprised if he was using, but I'm going to need a little more evidence before he becomes the A-Rod of the NBA...

I still fail to see the logic in that other post...

 

[True Lakers Fan]

But isn't Kobe the posterboy for some experimental treatment in Germany?

Well yes and no - it was actually in it's early stages but no ped's were used. What they did was they take blood from the patient mix it with other fluids and then shoot it into the knee. So basically they were using Kobe's own blood and and etc. Again no ped's were used and again as I have said before - Kobe was up front and open about this. Everybody including the commissioner knew about this and gave it the thumbs up. They gave it the thumbs up by knowing about it and not investigating it or reprimended. Let's not forget that Andrew Bynum also did the same thing and was an epic failure.

I actually trying to show them how ignorant they sounded when mouthing off, but that was my bad, I forgot they are not smart enough to be logical and there is your problem. You're trying to follow their logic. There is none - they make it up as they go and the truth is not relevent

 

[Black Belt Disciple]

THE BIGGEST TROLL IN HERE CALLING OUT OTHER TROLLS - THAT'S RICH

The pot just called the kettle black

Haha, troll retard level 7

You just got owned bitch

 

[Black Belt Disciple]

Well yes and no - it was actually in it's early stages but no ped's were used. What they did was they take blood from the patient mix it with other fluids and then shoot it into the knee. So basically they were using Kobe's own blood and and etc. Again no ped's were used and again as I have said before - Kobe was up front and open about this. Everybody including the commissioner knew about this and gave it the thumbs up. They gave it the thumbs up by knowing about it and not investigating it or reprimended. Let's not forget that Andrew Bynum also did the same thing and was an epic failure.

I actually trying to show them how ignorant they sounded when mouthing off, but that was my bad, I forgot they are not smart enough to be logical and there is your problem. You're trying to follow their logic. There is none - they make it up as they go and the truth is not relevent

Tell us again how EVERY player is PED'ing and yet the Heat won because two players were doping?

You really are stupid and a giant flaming sissy troll.

 

[Jims_Doors]

posting because site won't show me page 2. seeing if this will help


yep...it helped

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

Probably, but don't count Kobe out. He's been the best for a long time, and is the ultimate competitor. Kobe might not be ready to pass the torch just yet...And if he does, I believe Durant's next in line because Durant plays well under pressure and doesn't choke and disappear like Lebron always does.

Pass the torch yet?

You must use a torch to light up the giant amount of shit you must smoke to come up with your babble.

 

[geneh_33]

Let's just get two things straight:

1. Kobe Bryant has never won a title. It takes a total team effort to win a title.

2. Lebron James has never won a title. It takes a total team effort to win a title.

That said, you guys can now finish your argument.

 

[Jims_Doors]

Well yes and no - it was actually in it's early stages but no ped's were used. What they did was they take blood from the patient mix it with other fluids and then shoot it into the knee. So basically they were using Kobe's own blood and and etc. Again no ped's were used and again as I have said before - Kobe was up front and open about this. Everybody including the commissioner knew about this and gave it the thumbs up. They gave it the thumbs up by knowing about it and not investigating it or reprimended. Let's not forget that Andrew Bynum also did the same thing and was an epic failure.

I actually trying to show them how ignorant they sounded when mouthing off, but that was my bad, I forgot they are not smart enough to be logical and there is your problem. You're trying to follow their logic. There is none - they make it up as they go and the truth is not relevent

So you don't think it's unusual for a player to have some of the best seasons of their career in their early to mid 30's? Go from playing 33mins per game one year to 38mins per game for the next 2yrs at the age of 32-33-34?

2012....."Kobe has been mostly silent on the topic of his arthritic knee — "I'm not talking about my injury" is a constant refrain." That was after he went to Germany twice.

I'm being very logical. What he did (or any other player who would do this) the last 2 years is very unusual and non-characteristic of any past players.

 

[ATL96Steeler]

No...his reign is over

Huh? He's been first team all nba like 12 times....Don't confuse a guy going to a team stacked with STARS as being the best....Kobe's been the best player in the league, offensively & defensively for almost 12 years....If you're a chronic choker like Lebron, you can never be the best in ANY sport.

Peace!!

Not to get into a pissing match over Lebron & Kobe...imo it's like which do you want...the mansion in Bel Air, or the one in West Palm...splitting hairs.

Right now, there's no question Lebron is the best player in the game...OFC, DEF, Low post, off the dribble, midrange and long range jumper, rebound. A willing passer...there's nothing he doesn't do very well on the court.

Kobe...he had his run...I wouldn't say the best the last 12 years...LeBron takes the last 3 or 4 yrs in my book. But...an achilles is no joke...I'm thinking he's going to lose that burst, that explosion to the basket. I think Kobe will play out next season and if they don't look like they can compete in his mind with the top of the West...he's going to call it a career....don't see him playing out the string with a team that can only get to the playoffs.

 

[True Lakers Fan]

So you don't think it's unusual for a player to have some of the best seasons of their career in their early to mid 30's? Go from playing 33mins per game one year to 38mins per game for the next 2yrs at the age of 32-33-34?

2012....."Kobe has been mostly silent on the topic of his arthritic knee — "I'm not talking about my injury" is a constant refrain." That was after he went to Germany twice.

I'm being very logical. What he did (or any other player who would do this) the last 2 years is very unusual and non-characteristic of any past players.

Kobe is an unusual player, but also the most disciplined player in the NBA and has historically worked out more then any other player. I would bet that you never see another Kobe Bryant in many years and Lebron is a good player but has as good as he is, will never be a Kobe Bryant.

Unusual, is not proof or evidence that a player is using player performance drugs and does not even mean it is indicative of such behaviour. Either way If I had been hearing such questions from normal people who have not openly endorsed smoking pot and driving under the influence and had not openly has a passionate hatred for Kobe Bryant and had been historically an objective poster, then I might consider their points to be legimate questions.

But again - unusual actions in the NBA by itself does not suggest crap. To say it does, you're full of shit, so again you're not being logical - just a trolling hater

 

[True Lakers Fan]

The bottom line is that it is quite possible and common for many of the players in the NBA to acheive their goals without ped's. I know that will come a shock to many of you and in fact I am not sure ped's would necessarily help basketball players as much as it does baseball players

In baseball, the ped's gives the players better strength to knock the ball out of the park, but the NBA is extremely different and if a player has no skills to shoot, all of the ped's in the world is not going to give him that talent

 

[Jims_Doors]

Kobe is an unusual player, but also the most disciplined player in the NBA and has historically worked out more then any other player. I would bet that you never see another Kobe Bryant in many years and Lebron is a good player but has as good as he is, will never be a Kobe Bryant.

Unusual, is not proof or evidence that a player is using player performance drugs and does not even mean it is indicative of such behaviour. Either way If I had been hearing such questions from normal people who have not openly endorsed smoking pot and driving under the influence and had not openly has a passionate hatred for Kobe Bryant and had been historically an objective poster, then I might consider their points to be legimate questions.

But again - unusual actions in the NBA by itself does not suggest crap. To say it does, you're full of shit, so again you're not being logical - just a trolling hater

If so.....then why feel the need to get the procedure done "not only once, but reportedly 2x" in the first place? Why didn't all the "extreme workouts", prevent him from blowing out his Achilles or getting major arthritis in his knee?

Under these circumstances with factual proof when it comes to NBA superstars, their ages and the stats they compile at those ages over the years... suggests there's definitely reason for some to wonder and raise a flag, when it comes to Kobe.

I may be a hater, but not trolling considering his play the last 2 seasons compared to the years before his trips to Germany (at his age and years in the league) are the facts right in front of our face to raise question.