Absolutely nothing happened yesterday

[RedSoxWorrld]

So he wasnt juicing his rookie year or in the minors? Or does it just suck Ortiz is a dirty filthy cheater and you wish Davis were the same?

Did Davis just stop roiding the non "cherry picked years" and decide to start juicing again last year when he hit 33?

you could have just said "ORTIZ IS ON THE RED SOX, ASSHOLE"

and saved us all time

 

[Mike Oxlodge]

you could have just said "ORTIZ IS ON THE RED SOX, ASSHOLE"

and saved us all time

They're all juicing was my point. But with Ortiz, it could have been something he took at GNC. You're right, he is on the Red Sox. So we're good.

 

[RedSoxWorrld]

You skipped the part where Boston fans were wishing cancer on the families of those that merely suggested Ortiz was cheating, before he got outed

somethign else that never happened that happened according to dirt

 

[Kate Upton]

Wasn't it Rock who said that Manny only started juicing when he went to LA?

Or was that Henry?

 

[black francis]

Red Sox have one starter in the ASG and he is by far the best at his position

"designated hitter is a position"

-boston

 

[RedSoxWorrld]

LOL @ uneducated.

You crack me up. He's a dirty cheater. Just like Bautista, just like Manny, just like Pettite, just like Rocker....etc..

Thats it, Chris Davis is taking something from GNC. Cereal see? There you go. Davis is clean.

bautista is a cheater but davis isnt?

 

[Down38st8]

Not known by who?

Me? You? Who gives a shit?

based on your rants the past couple of weeks? You care deeply...

The Patriots knew, which is exactly why you've been making a jackass of yourself for the last week.

Yes...the patriots knew about the 2007 bar fight...and subsequent investigation involving a gun...it's probably what prompted a number of teams to drop him from their boards, and what prompted them to reach out to his college coach, a close personal friend to the HC and GM, and get a character reference.



Add in 3+ years of model behavior as a patriot? And what we're left with? Is a guy that appeared to have moved on from his past...

When they signed him to the extension (why Kraft felt duped), they didn't know about the shooting in florida, the double murder (which hernandez's possible involvement wasn't known until a few weeks ago) or the Odin Lloyd murder, as those 3 all happened after the fact...


This has all be explained numerous times...and I fully expect something along the lines of "Down is surprised when a stripped cheats on her boyfriend" or similar stupidity...why? because you have absolutely NOTHING to offer to refute it...

 

[RedSoxWorrld]

Sounds like Ellsbury is about to be an Ex Red Sox

he's not getting 100 million plus in Boston

so yeah......he's gone

100 percent

 

[Mike Oxlodge]

bautista is a cheater but davis isnt?

Rock said earlier, (go back and read) that Ortiz could have taken something from GNC.

So can Davis.

 

[Rock Strongo]

They're all juicing was my point. But with Ortiz, it could have been something he took at GNC. You're right, he is on the Red Sox. So we're good.

it sure could be GNC

it was pre-CBA, and that test was to see what a majority of positives tests are for, so they could work on eliminating those

we dont know what he failed for...could have been joe weider weight gainer for all we know

 

[Down38st8]

Wasn't it Rock who said that Manny only started juicing when he went to LA?

Or was that Henry?

Considering you're the source? I'm going with neither...

 

[black francis]

he failed a test that was never meant to go public (litmus test for the league) and was pre-CBA. we also dont know if that "banned substance" was steroids or a more benign GNC thing that may have since been alowed by said CBA.

no one knows but papi

but technically, in the eyes of the uneducated masses he failed a PED test *

your first sentence said he failed a test, now you say the uneducated think he actually failed a test?

just because it was never meant to be public doesnt mean he was really clean

 

[RedSoxWorrld]

Yeah, except I've been saying that last year too. Don't project your "honor and tradition" hocus pocus view of baseball on me. I'm a realist.

ditto

was saying Ellsbury walks after his huge year cuz the Sox werent paying him Crawford money, which is what it was back then

Now it is somewhere around 100 million and I doubt he wants to be here anyway

 

[Down38st8]

we dont know what he failed for...could have been joe weider weight gainer for all we know

This, coupled with the fact we knew right away what Arod tested positive for that same year, has always intrigued me...I'd just like to know what it was...it would eliminate the last cloud of doubt, as Rock is still able to play this card...because there is some plausibility remaining that he was of the false positives...or tested positive for a "lesser" ped like Andro...

 

[RedSoxWorrld]

Quite frankly I don't remember mine or anyone else's stance on Ellsbury in 2011

But I'm willing to bet my entire savings account on the fact that in 2011, when posters were saying "Ellsbury is juicing", the response from RSN was NOT "I agree"

was juicing does not equal might be

i know I sure as hell thought it

 

[Rock Strongo]

your first sentence said he failed a test, now you say the uneducated think he actually failed a test?

yes

he did fail a test*

and yes, the uneducated think he failed an actual PED test under CBA guidelines

 

[Down38st8]

Rock said earlier, (go back and read) that Ortiz could have taken something from GNC.

So can Davis.

There are probably a thousand over the counter GNC products that you'd fail an MLB/USADA/WADA drug test if you take them...

 

[cerealboi]

ditto

was saying Ellsbury walks after his huge year cuz the Sox werent paying him Crawford money, which is what it was back then

Now it is somewhere around 100 million and I doubt he wants to be here anyway

When he gets signed by the Yankees, I think Dirt will drop the Gardner > Ellsbury routine.

 

[Rock Strongo]

This, coupled with the fact we knew right away what Arod tested positive for that same year, has always intrigued me...I'd just like to know what it was...it would eliminate the last cloud of doubt, as Rock is still able to play this card...because there is some plausibility remaining that he was of the false positives...or tested positive for a "lesser" ped like Andro...

this has been my long standing point

i in no way believe he didnt cheat...but what he "cheated" with, is another topic

we dont know

 

[RedSoxWorrld]

They're all juicing was my point. But with Ortiz, it could have been something he took at GNC. You're right, he is on the Red Sox. So we're good.

one Sox fan in here has ever said that

i'm in the "everyone's guilty" camp

everyone