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The Bears 2025 Draft Thread

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I want to make an official prediction right now that we're going to take Ashton Jeanty.

I don't know why, but that has been in my gut for 2-3 weeks now.
You could very well be right. I'd like to believe tho that we'll take Jeanty only because we signed at least two starters on the OL in free agency.
 

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Or a major run of OL taking before pick #10
I really don't see that happening.....but then again I didn't see Philly's pass rush being able to decimate what was supposed to be a solid OL for KC.
 

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I've been seeing some mocks here and there that have the Bears trading UP........but thankfully not with the #10 pick, which I think most, if not all of us think should never happen. To the contrary a few of these mocks have the Bears trading BACK on #10 and getting an extra 2nd rounder. Then bundle one of those along with a mid-later round for instance, to move up into the late 1st round. All this assumes there are willing trade partners, but I like the basic concepts of these ideas.
 

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I've been seeing some mocks here and there that have the Bears trading UP........but thankfully not with the #10 pick, which I think most, if not all of us think should never happen. To the contrary a few of these mocks have the Bears trading BACK on #10 and getting an extra 2nd rounder. Then bundle one of those along with a mid-later round for instance, to move up into the late 1st round. All this assumes there are willing trade partners, but I like the basic concepts of these ideas.

It would be very hard to get better than 3 of the top 40 players.....so I dont see where we can get better than that.

I dont wanna see no trade downs,especially to where our first pick is in the late first round.......
Now if Poles was 1000% sure that the player he was targeting at 10 was still gonna be there at 11 or 12,then I guess take that chance by trading down 1 or 2 spots,but no lower.....but then he is taking that chance that some team doesnt trade up into our spot and take said player....

Id rather have the quality than quanity.....
 

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I am leaning towards the running back. For years we hear how first round is too high to draft a center, but when the combine hits and the real wing span numbers come out for Campbell, he is most likely going to be a guard in the NFL. It wont be the Tunsil gas mask bong that makes him drop, it will be the arms. Is 10 too high to draft a guard? They are saying all the top OT's have short arms.

Pretty sure Allen is looking for 275 plus DE's for his defense and the two from Texas A&M ranked 4th and 7th are the only ones in the top 14 that fit that bill. Do we take the 4th best DE Shemar Stewart at 10?

Would you rather have a game changing running back or end up picking a guard at 10? Extremely weak draft for centers this year. Dont want to see another year of Shea McClellan getting drafted, the system changing and then telling him he needs to get up to 285 to play if they pick the better DE prospect who is 245 soaking wet.

Another question I have, is if Wright is the best tackle we have, why isnt he getting a chance at the left side? They will get their starters via free agency again, pencil them in with little competition for the starting job. Hopefully one year deals and they fill up the line with their second round picks.
 

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It would be very hard to get better than 3 of the top 40 players.....so I dont see where we can get better than that.

I dont wanna see no trade downs,especially to where our first pick is in the late first round.......
Now if Poles was 1000% sure that the player he was targeting at 10 was still gonna be there at 11 or 12,then I guess take that chance by trading down 1 or 2 spots,but no lower.....but then he is taking that chance that some team doesnt trade up into our spot and take said player....

Id rather have the quality than quanity.....
In general I agree with you, but in a couple of the scenarios I've seen, it's possible, if not likely, that we could end up with two 1sts and two 2nds. There are always a bunch of 'ifs' involved in something like that, so it's not like I'm putting a ton of stock in any of it. Just really more discussing options than anything.
 

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FWIW

Detroit ran the ball 47% of the time (2nd most). Bears ran the ball 38% of the time (5th least).

When it came to passing targets, Detroit targeted the RB 20% (3rd most) while the Bears targeted the RB 14% (3rd least).

RB seems to be a feature of a Ben Johnson offense.
 
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Detroit ran the ball 47% of the time (2nd most). Bears ran the ball 38% of the time (5th least).

When it came to passing targets, Detroit targeted the RB 20% (3rd most) while the Bears targeted the RB 14% (3rd least).

RB seems to be a feature of a Ben Johnson offense.

Jeanty it is........
 

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Jeanty it is........
Not sure if it will be Jeanty, altho if the Bears are set on taking him, then it will have to be done with the 10th pick, because he'll never make it out of the top 20. I thought from the moment we hired Johnson for the HC job a RB would be selected with one of our top picks. I still believe what would lock Jeanty in as our 1st rounder is that Poles landed at least two OL starters in free agency. I just find it hard to believe that if we're still in dire need of OL help by draft day, then I don't see how we'd avoid taking one at #10.
 

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Not sure if it will be Jeanty, altho if the Bears are set on taking him, then it will have to be done with the 10th pick, because he'll never make it out of the top 20. I thought from the moment we hired Johnson for the HC job a RB would be selected with one of our top picks. I still believe what would lock Jeanty in as our 1st rounder is that Poles landed at least two OL starters in free agency. I just find it hard to believe that if we're still in dire need of OL help by draft day, then I don't see how we'd avoid taking one at #10.

I was kidding actually.....lol

Im for olineman first pick,if we get one or two in freeagency,then Im for def lineman at one.
If we get that also,then Id be for Ashton.....which I highly doubt happens anyways.
AJ would be a luxury pick that we dont have......yet
 

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I was kidding actually.....lol

Im for olineman first pick,if we get one or two in freeagency,then Im for def lineman at one.
If we get that also,then Id be for Ashton.....which I highly doubt happens anyways.
AJ would be a luxury pick that we dont have......yet
Well, it's actually a realistic possibility that Jeanty could be our pick at #10. But again, I'd like to think that if he ends up as our choice, the OL would be all but completely addressed by draft day. Much easier said than done.
 

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I’m starting to warm up to drafting Josh Simmons. He could be the best olineman taken in this draft and I think we can bring him along slowly if we get some quality guards in FA. When he’s ready, he might even come in and play iOL.

I wouldn’t mind practically any Olineman or Mason Graham either.
 

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I’m starting to warm up to drafting Josh Simmons. He could be the best olineman taken in this draft and I think we can bring him along slowly if we get some quality guards in FA. When he’s ready, he might even come in and play iOL.

I wouldn’t mind practically any Olineman or Mason Graham either.
Just about every draft site has Graham listed as a top 5 pick. However, there have been some reports trickling out recently that his stock may fall a bit if his measurables don't impress at the combine, such as his arms length. Doubt he'd drop out of the top 10 regardless, and if he's still there when the Bears are on the clock, it would be awfully tough to pass on him.
 

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Since we hired Ben I'm less worried about the direction we go in the draft. There are less option in free agency for a RB compared to OL.
 

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FWIW

Detroit ran the ball 47% of the time (2nd most). Bears ran the ball 38% of the time (5th least).

When it came to passing targets, Detroit targeted the RB 20% (3rd most) while the Bears targeted the RB 14% (3rd least).

RB seems to be a feature of a Ben Johnson offense.
I dont think its really a feature. Alot of what I remember seeing was the running back staying in the backfield to pick up the blitz, then as soon as they hit the guy, it was two steps and get the football. The blitzer was past that running back with nobody left to cover him. Not saying it was every time, just alot of times. They also sent everyone deep just to have the running back sprint past the cover LB and be wide open. We all know, that only happens if you actually connect on deep balls.
I think Caleb is going to watch alot of Goff this offseason, we just need to hope that Caleb is good enough to throw some of those balls Goff did. I swear, there were times he threw the ball between three defenders with no receiver, just to have the receiver dart in and catch the ball. Its the perfect, what the hell are you doing that turns into a what a throw. The trust with a non mobile QB like goff knowing where he could hit his running back was pretty amazing. I am really not sure its going to work on this team with a mobile quarterback since there was usually a spy. Maybe thats why the bears constantly take mobile quarterbacks and try to make them pocket passers.
 

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My too early Top 10 list of potential picks for our #10. Too early because who knows what the combines will produce numbers-wise, and what happens first in free agency could very well dicatate who gets taken and when. It should also be noted that I only focus on a number of positions instead of a true BPA, because for instance there's no way we're looking at the QB spot to fill, so why waste one of the top 10 on this. The same to a lesser extent at the WR, LB, CB, S spots, altho these positions might be a factor depending on free agency and cuts.

1. Abdul Carter, DE/Edge
2. Mason Graham, DT

3. Ashton Jeanty, RB
4. Will Campbell, OT
5. Kelvin Banks, OT
6. James Pearce, DE/Edge
7. Josh Simmons, OT
8. Mykel Williams, DE/Edge

9. Kenneth Grant, DT
10. Walter Nolan, DT

I think our sweet spot will be somewhere in the 3-7 rankings here, at least with respect to who could still be on the board at #10, and whether they merit that pick. I expect Carter and Graham to be taken well before we're on the clock. Williams, Grant, and Nolan are likely more suited for later in the 1st round or into the 2nd round. If we do some kind of trade back, one of these guys or others not listed could come into play.
 

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I’m just like the little old lady from the Wendy’s commercials going into this offseason.

“Where’s the beef?!?”
 

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My too early Top 10 list of potential picks for our #10. Too early because who knows what the combines will produce numbers-wise, and what happens first in free agency could very well dicatate who gets taken and when. It should also be noted that I only focus on a number of positions instead of a true BPA, because for instance there's no way we're looking at the QB spot to fill, so why waste one of the top 10 on this. The same to a lesser extent at the WR, LB, CB, S spots, altho these positions might be a factor depending on free agency and cuts.

1. Abdul Carter, DE/Edge
2. Mason Graham, DT

3. Ashton Jeanty, RB
4. Will Campbell, OT
5. Kelvin Banks, OT
6. James Pearce, DE/Edge
7. Josh Simmons, OT
8. Mykel Williams, DE/Edge

9. Kenneth Grant, DT
10. Walter Nolan, DT

I think our sweet spot will be somewhere in the 3-7 rankings here, at least with respect to who could still be on the board at #10, and whether they merit that pick. I expect Carter and Graham to be taken well before we're on the clock. Williams, Grant, and Nolan are likely more suited for later in the 1st round or into the 2nd round. If we do some kind of trade back, one of these guys or others not listed could come into play.
Carter is on the list of too small for this defense list. What he did at 260 works great for a 3-4. Pearce at 243 might be able to replace Edmunds when he leaves. This was the Shea McClellan problem. Instead of seeing if the guy could have been the next urlacher, he was told to get to 285. The guys that use Parsons and Verse are allowing them to roam free and building a defense around him. We have Hardy and Booker as 2 260 pound DE's that already do not play enough. Only the Texas A&M guys fit the bill for a quick spot.
I dont know if they resign Sanborn, who was used so incorrectly last season. Great run stopper, firm pass on coverage, and they have him chasing running backs in coverage with those two stud cover linebackers in Edwards and Edmunds playing the short zone and spy games.
I really hope Allen looks at the talent and tries to make the defense fit the skills. Thats how the great defenses are born. Then your picks are spot on. But if he comes in here like Fangio did, its going to be a long year waiting for the roster to turn over. We can only hope that Allen saw how Fangio learned his lesson.

And again, if Campbell ends up a starting guard for us, was 10 too high to pick a guard?
 
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