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Melkman doubles in Stewy. 5-2 Rox.
 

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I would be scared if Timmeh didn't have a sub-par game or two during spring training. He does this every year.
 

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I feel like every pitcher needs at least one bad outing, shows that they are trying to see what works, what doesn't.

Then again, if a pitcher goes through spring without one bad outing, I'm not too worried either...
 

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CarGo just singled in two more in the second. 5-1 Rox. Timmy must be "working on things."

This.

For the guys with locked spots, I could give a shit how they do at this point. They SHOULD have VERY specific tasks in mind to accomplish, and putting good stats should NOT be on that task list.
 

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From Eric Karabell, who chose 10 players over thirty-five with the best chance of rebounding this year. Huff made the list:

Aubrey Huff, 1B/OF, San Francisco Giants: Everyone says he's in great shape in March, of course, but I'm kind of buying what Huff is selling, to a degree. He credits offseason Pilates for his resurrection. I've seen a few of his spring at-bats, and a return to 2010's 20 homers and 80 RBIs seems realistic.
 

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Clearly losing focus out there. He's mentally weak.


Not as weak as Jimenez though...

On a serious note, I wonder if Timmeh is still throwing only change-ups and fastballs (like he was in his last outing).
 
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From Eric Karabell, who chose 10 players over thirty-five with the best chance of rebounding this year. Huff made the list:

Aubrey Huff, 1B/OF, San Francisco Giants: Everyone says he's in great shape in March, of course, but I'm kind of buying what Huff is selling, to a degree. He credits offseason Pilates for his resurrection. I've seen a few of his spring at-bats, and a return to 2010's 20 homers and 80 RBIs seems realistic.

Well, in 2010 Huff had 26 Hrs and 86 RBIs but who's counting...what is this guy's internet broken?
 

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It's a little disconcerting to me that Barry Zito's fastball wouldn't even get pulled over on I-280.

Hey, did you guys know that Zito was recently married? Seriously. On a more humorous note, apparently he walked his future wife down the aisle on 4 straight curveballs ...
 

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This.

For the guys with locked spots, I could give a shit how they do at this point. They SHOULD have VERY specific tasks in mind to accomplish, and putting good stats should NOT be on that task list.

I have to agree with this 250%. Spring training, especially the first couple of weeks of games, is about getting in shape AND trying out stuff. I've heard lots of times (well, read in the paper) that a particular player is "working on something specific" and nobody cares about the overall stats. For a pitcher, it might be release spot, or changing arm angle or improving a particular pitch. For a batter, he might be working on identifying a particular pitch and trying to do a specific something with it. So bad outings in spring don't bother me at all.

Of course, I'm a guy who has said for years that ST stats are completely useless, so take the above with a grain of salt.
 

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Hey, did you guys know that Zito was recently married? Seriously. On a more humorous note, apparently he walked his future wife down the aisle on 4 straight curveballs ...

:drum:
 

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Panik looked like the real deal. Fought off some tough 0-2 pitches then smoked a triple. Went the other way for a single in his first ab. Both hits against lefties.

Panik 3-3 so far... doesn't mean shit but he is one guy I am hoping will pan out so I'll take it!

Melky looking good so far... so is Pill he keeps it up it's gonna be hard to keep him off the roster... Hector doing his best too... Zito doing his best too? Unicorn!
 

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Panik 3-3 so far... doesn't mean shit but he is one guy I am hoping will pan out so I'll take it!

Melky looking good so far... so is Pill he keeps it up it's gonna be hard to keep him off the roster... Hector doing his best too... Zito doing his best too? Unicorn!

I tell you, Panik's bat looks more advanced to me than does Gary Brown's.
 

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It's spring training, it don't mean shit. If you doubt, look at spring stats for El-gordo Al-Fatso, or Eliezer Alfonzo's, or Todd Linden's, or so many other former Giants red-hot springs.

Heck, look at Huff's stats just last year : .369/.391/.692/1.084

Man did HE have a great season last year or what!
 

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It's spring training, it don't mean shit. If you doubt, look at spring stats for El-gordo Al-Fatso, or Eliezer Alfonzo's, or Todd Linden's, or so many other former Giants red-hot springs.

Heck, look at Huff's stats just last year : .369/.391/.692/1.084

Man did HE have a great season last year or what!

I think we're just giving our first impressions of the players as we see them. Not basing anything on the stats themselves. Using more of a scout's eye, if you will.
 

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It's spring training, it don't mean shit. If you doubt, look at spring stats for El-gordo Al-Fatso, or Eliezer Alfonzo's, or Todd Linden's, or so many other former Giants red-hot springs.

Heck, look at Huff's stats just last year : .369/.391/.692/1.084

Man did HE have a great season last year or what!

That is in fact why I said, and I quote, ahem... "Panik 3-3 so far... doesn't mean shit but he is one guy I am hoping will pan out so I'll take it!" And so it was said and so it was done.

:welcome:

And like gp said just first impressions. Although my take on Zito is the final word - he's just looking great with his 2 runs 4 hits in 2 innings, just where he left off last year. Oh I can hardly wait for the 5th day of the rotation when we get to endure the former greatness. Hold onto your hats boys! I feel an 81 mph heater coming!
 

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It is good to see the kids doing well, though. When I said I don't give a shit about performance in ST, I was 98% speaking of the vets. The kids, I want to see kill it.
 

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That is in fact why I said, and I quote, ahem... "Panik 3-3 so far... doesn't mean shit but he is one guy I am hoping will pan out so I'll take it!" And so it was said and so it was done.

:welcome:

And like gp said just first impressions. Although my take on Zito is the final word - he's just looking great with his 2 runs 4 hits in 2 innings, just where he left off last year. Oh I can hardly wait for the 5th day of the rotation when we get to endure the former greatness. Hold onto your hats boys! I feel an 81 mph heater coming!

Probably should add that to the title of this thread: Spring Training 2012 - Doesn't Mean Shit
 

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I do like to see the kids do well. They are facing true MLB pitching. While it's not exactly MLB pitchers on top of their game, it's still the best pitching they've seen. Though I don't put much stock into it, I'd rather see the young guys crushing the ball than struggling.

Also, as gp mentioned, using our own scouting eye is fun too. I like to see/hear, for example, "Panik fought off a couple of tough 0-2 pitches from a lefty and ended up smacking a triple"(which actually happened) rather than "player X hit a double off a first pitch fastball"(hypothetical).
 
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