Eagles post game

[deanpet21]

I think you mean 318 yards against JAX, which is not close to 400. Wentz did have two interceptions that game, He first one led to a FG as the defense held JAX to 19 yards that drive. The second one led to a TD because JAX only had 11 yards to get into the end zone. So yes, Wentz did make the defense look worse.

Nobody has said Wentz doesn’t have more talent than TH. I think you need to reevaluate your understanding of the English language. Having more talent doesn’t make a player better, nor does it make the team better.

Nobody has claimed the OL was playing at a high level early in the season, and I don’t think anybody, other than you, is claiming the OL is playing at a high level now. What I have said is Wentz makes the OL look bad or worse because that is what holding the ball too long and not being able to slide in the pocket does. It makes the OL look bad. The OL is not doing great when the run game averages 3 ypc.

Wentz doesn’t make a single throw that every good QB can’t make. The problem is Wentz misses easy throws that I can make. Does he have more arm talent than TH? Yes he does but Keff George had more arm talent than Brady and Manning so I am not sure how important arm talent is.

GB has been awful this season. They scored 7 against the Vikes, 14 against TB, 10 against the Jets, and 9 against Detroit. The defense was not doing this earlier in the year because Carson Wentz put them in bad positions, could not sustain drives, and sucked.

Nope, Wentz would not have been benched…AND we would not be 3-1 in the last four. I would guess we would have been 0-4 with Wentz.

I agree that TH is not the main reason we are 3-1. I will say TH is the main difference. You still think it is a coincidence that the team plays remarkably better with TH than they do with CW?

Well GB just beat Dallas. So there goes that theory. I believe the oline is giving TH way more time than it did Wentz. I dont see what TH did in the last 4 games that makes him continue to be the starter of this team. 0-4 with Wentz? Really? Yes it's a fact the team is playing better these last 4 games.

How is TH the main difference? Still throws the costly picks in the 4th qtr. He needs the defense to be all world to be in the game. He needs a strong running game to be in games. If we are down by Mutiple scores I dont see TH pulling us back. ? The team is playing better b/c of the defense. Yes TH makes plays not denying that. We will see what RR decides. Plus we don't even know if Wentz is 100%

 

[kbso83432]

Biggest win of the season. Hats off to Ron. Cancer, re-brand, ownership change, his mom, fans calling for his job every week, and all he does is keep grinding.

Scott called his best game. Play action bootleg for TH, recognized the Eagles weakness and attacked their run defense. He called a great game. I called for his head last week, so I have to give him props when he deserves it. JDR's defense continues to perform and it was reported today he's getting Chase back.

I've been saying Heinicke deserves the chance to play his way out of the lineup. He hasn't done that yet. As skinsdad pointed out last night, recovering that horrific snap from Larsen was huge. He should be the starter vs Houston. I believe he will be.

We got preseason Robinson last night. He was the player of the game imo. The time of possession was unreal. Old school Gibbs football last night.

Lucas is really struggling, but other than that the o-line helped control the clock and keep that Eagles offense on the sideline.

This is going to be an elite WR unit once we get a franchise QB and a couple of more offensive lineman.

Logan looked quicker last night. I think we might get some production from him moving forward. I don't want to have to go looking for a TE this off-season. We have too many other needs.

Jaw dropped when Troy Aikman said we had the best DT duo in the league. Love it!

I saw Bostic make a play or two. Davis isn't Parsons, but he's not a bust like I feared he was about eight weeks ago.

Fuller has been good for about a month now. Harris need to teach BSJ how to rub the WR with his shoulder pad and move him that way instead of grabbing and holding. That said, BSJ is really good. Forced fumble, confident as all get out, and has a high ceiling. Wildgoose gave one up.

Forrest had a pick and a FR. I'm not sure safety is really a need THIS off-season. As long as McCain can get where he need to be on time we might be good.

Slye and the whole ST balled. Coverage was great. Hate that holding call on AG's return, but it was the right one.

Have to find a way to get to NY at 7-5. Playoffs are still not probable but have moved from unlikely to possible.

I'm going to the game Sunday. Can't wait.

#HTTR
#SellTheTeam

 

[Brock2005]

The defense is playing alot better now. Plus, they are running more. TH constantly makes the 4th qtr int. I dont think TH is the better QB sorry. He made plays last night but wasnt the reason why we won.

CONCUR!

 

[skinsdad62]

The defense is playing alot better now. Plus, they are running more. TH constantly makes the 4th qtr int. I dont think TH is the better QB sorry. He made plays last night but wasnt the reason why we won.

was he the sole reason we won ? no but the bad snap play , the mac bomb , the kneel down drawing the penalty all were key plays . . and again after a bad play he shook it off and led the team . you cant dismiss that dean nor can you dismiss that wince got blown out by this very same team and falco is now 3-1

 

[deanpet21]

was he the sole reason we won ? no but the bad snap play , the mac bomb , the kneel down drawing the penalty all were key plays . . and again after a bad play he shook it off and led the team . you cant dismiss that dean nor can you dismiss that wince got blown out by this very same team and falco is now 3-1

sure but we are a different team now then we were in Week 3. You can't dismiss that. Why are you saying 3-1 is all on TH. Even gk admitted TH is not the reason for the 3-1 record. IF TH was balling out 300 yards 3 tds every week and we are winning on offense, I would agree with you and leave him in b/c he is on fire. Is TH on fire offensively? No. Wentz wasnt the reason why we were 2-4. If RR and turner went and go get the guy with draft picks and money you would think they really wanted him here to play QB.

 

[skinsdad62]

Well GB just beat Dallas. So there goes that theory. I believe the oline is giving TH way more time than it did Wentz. I dont see what TH did in the last 4 games that makes him continue to be the starter of this team. 0-4 with Wentz? Really? Yes it's a fact the team is playing better these last 4 games.

How is TH the main difference? Still throws the costly picks in the 4th qtr. He needs the defense to be all world to be in the game. He needs a strong running game to be in games. If we are down by Mutiple scores I dont see TH pulling us back. ? The team is playing better b/c of the defense. Yes TH makes plays not denying that. We will see what RR decides. Plus we don't even know if Wentz is 100%

dean are you saying wince doesnt need all those things ? and tell me how costly were those ints wince threw ? how costly could those 4th quarter picks be when falco went 3-1 ? not very apparently . if we are down multiple scores you see wince bringing us back ? not very often

falco is 10-9 in his starts , 9-4 in his last 13 so he must be managing the game half way right

recently we have seen falco bounce back from bad plays and then go make plays . wince doesnt do that very often at all

we would be 5-5 with either qb starting and that is why the trade a bad one . is wince better ? perhaps but not by much

 

[Sportster 72]

Trade was bad for the picks given, dad has said that all along and I agree. Typical under Snyder no matter who the GM or whatever they have was. They gave up more than they needed to.

I don't think Wentz gets to that bad snap and throws it away like TH did. Of course being almost half a foot taller with longer arms maybe it doesn't go over Wentz's head.

TH said what he was told to do on that give up play, look for Terry if he isn't available take a knee. He did and the Eagle player made a mistake that helped Washington.

RR would be foolish to change QBs now. Wentz will make mistakes, TH will make mistakes but 3-1 is 3-1 ... there is no other argument.

Like I said yesterday who cares if Elmer Fudd is the QB if they win.

 

[chillerdab]

Who was the last QB that had a winning record on this team????

I believe that last night the announcers said Alex Smith was 11-5 (??!!!??!!) as a starter, and that other than TH, the rest of the starters since Kirk Cousins were 19-37. Take out Alex Smith, and the rest of the qb's were 8-32. Yeesh.

 

[Sportster 72]

Anyone that remembers the 70s will remember this is how George Allen did it back in the day with Larry Brown and Kilmer and Gibbs later with Riggins and Byner.

 

[deanpet21]

dean are you saying wince doesnt need all those things ? and tell me how costly were those ints wince threw ? how costly could those 4th quarter picks be when falco went 3-1 ? not very apparently . if we are down multiple scores you see wince bringing us back ? not very often

falco is 10-9 in his starts , 9-4 in his last 13 so he must be managing the game half way right

recently we have seen falco bounce back from bad plays and then go make plays . wince doesnt do that very often at all

we would be 5-5 with either qb starting and that is why the trade a bad one . is wince better ? perhaps but not by much

Forget the trade that is water under the bridge. Is Wentz 100% healthy? You keep touting the record. Fine. But the whole team has a lot to do with that record. This is going to be interesting. Remember RR and Turner went and go get Wentz. Do they give up on him after 6 games? We will see.

 

[skinsdad62]

sure but we are a different team now then we were in Week 3. You can't dismiss that. Why are you saying 3-1 is all on TH. Even gk admitted TH is not the reason for the 3-1 record. IF TH was balling out 300 yards 3 tds every week and we are winning on offense, I would agree with you and leave him in b/c he is on fire. Is TH on fire offensively? No. Wentz wasnt the reason why we were 2-4. If RR and turner went and go get the guy with draft picks and money you would think they really wanted him here to play QB.

i am saying that the team plays better with falco in there. i have maintained we need a qb

Forget the trade that is water under the bridge. Is Wentz 100% healthy? You keep touting the record. Fine. But the whole team has a lot to do with that record. This is going to be interesting. Remember RR and Turner went and go get Wentz. Do they give up on him after 6 games? We will see.

you didnt say it was a team thing when you were bashing KC now , so there you have it . have a principle Dean and stick to it .

wince doesn’t have it

and the trade is the essence of this whole debate , our record would have been the same with or without wince

 

[kbso83432]

 

[deanpet21]

i am saying that the team plays better with falco in there. i have maintained we need a qb

you didnt say it was a team thing when you were bashing KC now , so there you have it . have a principle Dean and stick to it .

wince doesn’t have it

and the trade is the essence of this whole debate , our record would have been the same with or without wince

I have principal. You want to the team to give up on a guy who they traded for and paid big money too have 6 games.

 

[skinsdad62]

I have principal. You want to the team to give up on a guy who they traded for and paid big money too have 6 games.

I have a hole career of wince to know who he is

 

[skinsdad62]

I have principal. You want to the team to give up on a guy who they traded for and paid big money too have 6 games.

No you don’t , you only use things when it suits you . Teams win games now but not with KC , and Falco doesn’t win games he only loses them

the principle is dean Teams win and lose games ALWAYS, not selectively

 

[deanpet21]

No you don’t , you only use things when it suits you . Teams win games now but not with KC , and Falco doesn’t win games he only loses them

the principle is dean Teams win and lose games ALWAYS, not selectively

sure there are team wins. No doubt. Some games can be selectively diagnosed

 

[skinsdad62]

sure there are team wins. No doubt. Some games can be selectively diagnosed

no they cant and most advanced football fans know this . the fact is you use that " selectivity " because of hate on a player not because of what and how it happens

 

[deanpet21]

no they cant and most advanced football fans know this . the fact is you use that " selectivity " because of hate on a player not because of what and how it happens

no hate. many people said he didnt play well but he wins. I want the team to win no matter who the QB is.

 

[skinsdad62]

no hate. many people said he didnt play well but he wins. I want the team to win no matter who the QB is.

and i know that isnt how you use it . you hate the player and he can do no right

 

[deanpet21]

and i know that isnt how you use it . you hate the player and he can do no right

not true. just b/c i pull out TH flaws that doenst mean im a hater.