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[duke1861]

who cares about other posters. You are judging him by 6 games. 6!

Then please clarify what Rivera meant when he said quarterback?
I will judge him at 6 games in this offense. It is a third of the season.
As skinsdad said,I also have seen his career and read what other reporters from Philly and Indy have said. They all say the same thing.
You are the only one one here bashing TH and praising Wentz repeatedly. You have a prepackaged list of excuses when Wentz loses such as OLine, receivers and Scott Turner. When TH won, you claimed he tried to give the game away. Wentz literally gave the game away to the Titans yet you were largely silent about it.
The fact is that you don't want to admit you were wrong. You admire wentz and made several assumptions based off of Wentz such as 11 wins and Turner's offense. So far, they are both completely wrong. You claimed the team was a QB away and you were wrong. You claimed Rivera has done a good job and are wrong about that. The bottom line is that if Wentz flops, you will have to explain yourself to the board, as such, your hopee all rest on Wentz.

 

[deanpet21]

Then please clarify what Rivera meant when he said quarterback?
I will judge him at 6 games in this offense. It is a third of the season.
As skinsdad said,I also have seen his career and read what other reporters from Philly and Indy have said. They all say the same thing.
You are the only one one here bashing TH and praising Wentz repeatedly. You have a prepackaged list of excuses when Wentz loses such as OLine, receivers and Scott Turner. When TH won, you claimed he tried to give the game away. Wentz literally gave the game away to the Titans yet you were largely silent about it.
The fact is that you don't want to admit you were wrong. You admire wentz and made several assumptions based off of Wentz such as 11 wins and Turner's offense. So far, they are both completely wrong. You claimed the team was a QB away and you were wrong. You claimed Rivera has done a good job and are wrong about that. The bottom line is that if Wentz flops, you will have to explain yourself to the board, as such, your hopee all rest on Wentz.

everyone bashed Th on gameday for that first half. cmon now. To defend TH from Sunday is delusional. Wentz played well against the TItans he didnt delver at the end. RR might not give Wentz another chance, so how can you tell if Wentz flopped? You said yourself that you dont blame Wentz for the 2-4 record, So how am I wrong? I wanted an upgrade at QB, the whole fan base wanted an upgrade at qb. We got off to bad start and everyone points to Wentz. Im saying that is not fair. The guy played the Bears game on a broken figure. You never say that. How about you were wrong about Denver and Indy this year.

 

[duke1861]

everyone bashed Th on gameday for that first half. cmon now. To defend TH from Sunday is delusional. Wentz played well against the TItans he didnt delver at the end. RR might not give Wentz another chance, so how can you tell if Wentz flopped? You said yourself that you dont blame Wentz for the 2-4 record, So how am I wrong? I wanted an upgrade at QB, the whole fan base wanted an upgrade at qb. We got off to bad start and everyone points to Wentz. Im saying that is not fair. The guy played the Bears game on a broken figure. You never say that. How about you were wrong about Denver and Indy this year.

How was I wrong about denver? I don't worship the afc like you do. The nfc east is better than the AFC west. You claimed it would be easier to win here in the nfc east and I said you were wrong, which you are as usual.
Wentz is not the sole reason for the record, but he beats a good portion of the offensive struggles.
Indy is just 1 game out and I was simply restating what sports pundits said. Most sites and experts had Indy winning the division.
You were wrong because you said Wentz would win in this offense and literally said we found outnqb. Wentz averaged 17 points a game as our QB. He is not a good QB and you refuse to admit it.

 

[deanpet21]

How was I wrong about denver? I don't worship the afc like you do. The nfc east is better than the AFC west. You claimed it would be easier to win here in the nfc east and I said you were wrong, which you are as usual.
Wentz is not the sole reason for the record, but he beats a good portion of the offensive struggles.
Indy is just 1 game out and I was simply restating what sports pundits said. Most sites and experts had Indy winning the division.
You were wrong because you said Wentz would win in this offense and literally said we found outnqb. Wentz averaged 17 points a game as our QB. He is not a good QB and you refuse to admit it.

what? I said the NFC east was going to be good this year and you complained. I said he would have a better shot to get into the playoffs in the NFC vs the AFC. At the time the AFC West was supposed to be the best division in football. I also said Denver and Indy might not make the playoffs this year and you flipped.

lol you judge him by 6 games which is ridiculous. You are trying to tie our team struggles to Wentz which is crazy.Then you blame everybody who liked getting upgraded at QB. The season isnt over yet. You dont know what RR will do

 

[duke1861]

what? I said the NFC east was going to be good this year and you complained. I said he would have a better shot to get into the playoffs in the NFC vs the AFC. At the time the AFC West was supposed to be the best division in football. I also said Denver and Indy might not make the playoffs this year and you flipped.

lol you judge him by 6 games which is ridiculous. You are trying to tie our team struggles to Wentz which is crazy.Then you blame everybody who liked getting upgraded at QB. The season isnt over yet. You dont know what RR will do

Lol, nobody can follow you dean.
You said it would be easier to win in the nfc than the AFC and criticized Wilson for snubbing wsh. I disagreed and was right. It would be easier to win in the AFC and in the AFC west than in the nfc east.

Indy is at .500 and is th playoff hunt. You don't like Indy because they booted your hero Wentz because he sux.

Wentz is a big part of why the offense sputtered. Everyone sees that but you.

I judged Wentz the day the trade was made and was right from the get go. The trade was a bust the moment it happened. You are the only one banging the Wentz drum if you haven't noticed. Don't get mad at me because I know what I am talking about and you don't.

 

[deanpet21]

Lol, nobody can follow you dean.
You said it would be easier to win in the nfc than the AFC and criticized Wilson for snubbing wsh. I disagreed and was right. It would be easier to win in the AFC and in the AFC west than in the nfc east.

Indy is at .500 and is th playoff hunt. You don't like Indy because they booted your hero Wentz because he sux.

Wentz is a big part of why the offense sputtered. Everyone sees that but you.

I judged Wentz the day the trade was made and was right from the get go. The trade was a bust the moment it happened. You are the only one banging the Wentz drum if you haven't noticed. Don't get mad at me because I know what I am talking about and you don't.

lol. SO now the NFC is stronger than the AFC? Year right. Keep dreaming. You are wrong. I said it was easier to win in the NFC not NFC east. You are wrong about Indy and Denver. Just admit it.

 

[duke1861]

lol. SO now the NFC is stronger than the AFC? Year right. Keep dreaming. You are wrong. I said it was easier to win in the NFC not NFC east. You are wrong about Indy and Denver. Just admit it.

I believe the nfc is better this year yes.

You saying I am wrong is hilarious. You literally said Washington was going to get to 11 wins. Indy is still at .500. what did I say about denver that I am wrong?

 

[deanpet21]

I believe the nfc is better this year yes.

You saying I am wrong is hilarious. You literally said Washington was going to get to 11 wins. Indy is still at .500. what did I say about denver that I am wrong?

the afc is way better. i made a bold prediction. I have balls and made a prediction. you waffled. You had Denver as a super bowl contender, they might not make the playoffs. You are wrong on Indy and Denver this year.

 

[duke1861]

the afc is way better. i made a bold prediction. I have balls and made a prediction. you waffled. You had Denver as a super bowl contender, they might not make the playoffs. You are wrong on Indy and Denver this year.

When did I say Denver was a sb contender?
I might have been wrong on Indy but they are still on the playoff cusp.
I did make a bold prediction, I said wsh would get 7 or 8 wins.
Stop making up stuff. I am constantly having to educate and correct you.

Cousins made the playoffs
We were the only team to contract the colts.
Jon bostic did ok for the team

Do I need to go on?

 

[deanpet21]

When did I say Denver was a sb contender?
I might have been wrong on Indy but they are still on the playoff cusp.
I did make a bold prediction, I said wsh would get 7 or 8 wins.
Stop making up stuff. I am constantly having to educate and correct you.

Cousins made the playoffs
We were the only team to contract the colts.
Jon bostic did ok for the team

Do I need to go on?

there you go. can make a solid prediction. You're a Monday morning QB

 

[duke1861]

there you go. can make a solid prediction. You're a Monday morning QB

Who would you rather have cousins or Wentz?

Check mate.

Happy to help you anytime.

 

[deanpet21]

Who would you rather have cousins or Wentz?

Check mate.

Happy to help you anytime.

what does KC have anything to do with this? WOW!!

 

[duke1861]

what does KC have anything to do with this? WOW!!

You hated and hate cousins but not Wentz.

That literally makes no sense and I am calling you out for it.

 

[deanpet21]

You hated and hate cousins but not Wentz.

That literally makes no sense and I am calling you out for it.

never hated KC. He didn't want to be here and i accepted it unlike others.

 

[duke1861]

never hated KC. He didn't want to be here and i accepted it unlike others.

Completely untrue as skinsdad and everybody else pointed out.it was. It was only after Bruce insulted him and burned the bridge did he want out because he was not wanted.

Oh yeah, I remember correcting you on that as well. You said cousins wanted to be the highest paid QB while he was here. I posted the proof about that.

Wrong again.

 

[gkekoa]

yes b/c duke couldn't believe i was the only one in the world not giving up on Wentz. He is in a new team he should get more than 6 games to prove himself. Plus, after the draft pick investment it should be a longer leash for him. I could be wrong. RR could pull the plus but it just makes him look like even more of an ass. IMO he looks like an ass starting TH. The only way RR looks like a genius is if TH balls out and beats his next three opponents. Could it happen? Yes! But from last week, TH hasn't shown much. Hopefully it changes this week

If Wentz we’re making mistakes related to being on a new team, in a new offense, you may have a point. Wentz is not making those mistakes. He is making the same mistakes he has made throughout his career. Wentz holds the ball far too long, can’t see plays developing, and once he gets hit he becomes very inaccurate.

The draft pick investment should have no bearing on evaluation. You evaluate the play…you do not say “oh my gosh, we gave up so much to get him we have to punish everyone until he doesn’t suck.” The draft pick investment is actually why you pull him sooner. The draft picks become more as he hits 70%.

TH is not good either, but he isn’t scared. This alone makes him better than Wentz. That being said, we are in the best division in football apparently. TH won’t be winning enough games for us to make the playoffs. Realistically, RR is gone either way.

I would be playing Howell right now. Then again, I thought he was the #1 QB in the class. He plays with swagger. I want to know what he has.

 

[skinsdad62]

dean you were the head of the abcers

 

[deanpet21]

Completely untrue as skinsdad and everybody else pointed out.it was. It was only after Bruce insulted him and burned the bridge did he want out because he was not wanted.

Oh yeah, I remember correcting you on that as well. You said cousins wanted to be the highest paid QB while he was here. I posted the proof about that.

Wrong again.

True but KC never counted which means he didnt want to stay here. We were fools for not trading him after that.

 

[deanpet21]

If Wentz we’re making mistakes related to being on a new team, in a new offense, you may have a point. Wentz is not making those mistakes. He is making the same mistakes he has made throughout his career. Wentz holds the ball far too long, can’t see plays developing, and once he gets hit he becomes very inaccurate.

The draft pick investment should have no bearing on evaluation. You evaluate the play…you do not say “oh my gosh, we gave up so much to get him we have to punish everyone until he doesn’t suck.” The draft pick investment is actually why you pull him sooner. The draft picks become more as he hits 70%.

TH is not good either, but he isn’t scared. This alone makes him better than Wentz. That being said, we are in the best division in football apparently. TH won’t be winning enough games for us to make the playoffs. Realistically, RR is gone either way.

I would be playing Howell right now. Then again, I thought he was the #1 QB in the class. He plays with swagger. I want to know what he has.

I agree with you that Howell should be playing right now. I totally disagree with RR on the call to play TH. Duke thinks im all in on RR but im not. I just dont think it's fair to give up on Wentz after 6 games. RR and Turner wanted this guy, he should have a bigger leash. IF we are 4-6 then Wentz comes back and brings us to 6-6, there is a road to get to 9 or 10 wins and might get the 7th playoff spot.

 

[gkekoa]

I agree with you that Howell should be playing right now. I totally disagree with RR on the call to play TH. Duke thinks im all in on RR but im not. I just dont think it's fair to give up on Wentz after 6 games. RR and Turner wanted this guy, he should have a bigger leash. IF we are 4-6 then Wentz comes back and brings us to 6-6, there is a road to get to 9 or 10 wins and might get the 7th playoff spot.

Why should Wentz have a bigger leash? If the coaches wanted Wentz, shouldn’t they extend the leash if they want? What has Wentz done to make you think he deserves a longer leash? It is not his familiarity with the offense that has made him look bad. It is the same thing that has plagued him everywhere he has been that makes him look bad, no pocket presence and a lack of accuracy when pressured (he hears footsteps). He also has six fumbles.

Wentz was 2-4. If we make it to 6-6, you don’t think we should roll with the 4-2 QB?