bears post game

[duke1861]

Ron Rivera went off last night.....LOL.

But, I actually respect him for it. Stood up for his players and QB.

He kinda had to didn't he?

He is going to have to be accountable for his comments on Tuesday. I understand that he apologized but that doesn't mean there are no consequences for his actions. I believe Rivera misspoke and he is well aware of the expose that was realized on gameday.

 

[duke1861]

Last night was embarrassing. RR can get mad all he wants this team along with HIS QB are not even fun to watch. We lose again if the punt isn't muffed, Fields is any better than he was or Mooney catches the goal line pass first go around. How can anyone defend Wentz, Rivera or the product we are watching.
Get a real coach and GM in here at seasons end.

The idea that we were going to "blow out" the Bears was never going to materialize and is just laughable. Pride is the only reason anyone would or is defending Rivera or Wentz. A lot of smack talk occurred over the offseason and people don't want to admit they were completely and totally wrong.

The fact of the matter is that the Bears goofed several times and could have easily won the game as well. IF the punt wasn't muffed and IF Mooney makes a routine catch, the game is over. Both teams can point to a few plays that made the game. Bottom line is that both teams have the same argument and can point to mistakes that led to the outcome. The trend I am seeing is that this team cannot win unless it receives help from the opponent.

For anyone still on the Wentz train, Fields actually outplayed him last night. Let that sink in. A benching should be in the future due to play but also the 2nd round-pick situation. At some point, some of this must be the fault of Wentz. Yes, the Samuels catch is not his fault but you look at simple data and you have to blame Wentz for some of this.

Rivera having a meltdown was predictable. He is trying to make amends for his comments on Tuesday. He is fighting for his job and struggling to know how to handle the Snyder situation. I can honestly say that not many coaches could handle the situation much better regarding the ESPN article. That being said, I believe he is being dishonest with the whole Wentz thing. Snyder has meddled in the QB affairs for 20+ years now. I highly doubt he suddenly stopped. I am guessing Snyder pulled Rivera in and said something like "Wow, Carson Wentz would be a good QB for us, don't you think? Maybe we should look at getting him?" I am sure it was something like that.

I think Sportster may be right...5 games. Maybe 6-8 if a winning streak is put together.

 

[skinsdad62]

just saw the highlights. will watch the game tonight on nfl replay. It was ugly. In all fairness if Samuel makes the TD catch and Slye hits the Fg in the 4th qtr its a different game. Cant blame RR for those two huge plays. Defense with a ton of missed tackled but they kept us in the game. Im happy RR got pissed last night as he should be if these rumors are false. As far as Wentz goes, I will evaluate tonight but how can you blame him for the Samuel drop and they did drive for the late 4th qtr FG. They said he hurt his hand.

I was expecting to blow the Bears out. It was a shity performance, but we got the W. Looks like there are still major issues with the oline.

lets hope its not a case of doth protests too much

 

[deanpet21]

What's laughable is blaming the 2-4 record on Wentz. This whole team has underperformed on every level. We covert against the Titans and 3-3 would be very respectable for what this team has displayed.

 

[skinsdad62]

What's laughable is blaming the 2-4 record on Wentz. This whole team has underperformed on every level. We covert against the Titans and 3-3 would be very respectable for what this team has displayed.

dean your past has been about blaming KC for every loss he ever took . its not like he had great teams here. now if you judge KC on wins then the same must be done with wince by your own standards you held

the real truth is the team is substandard . the o/line bleeding talent , which i warned about , was dismissed . now we know neither replacement is any good and are liabilities . we had the money to sign them but people on this board stubbornly cling to conventional wisdom

worse yet they will advocate the same things when it comes to payne , who is our best all around d/lineman

you cant bleed talent and expect to win especially at the LOS

right now wince is the wrong qb for this team . wince cant climb the pocket , he isnt nimble , he doesnt know where and when to put the ball . he isnt aware of down , distance or situation

on top of that he isnt getting good coaching or he isnt accepting it

right now we are in no better position then what we would have been with falco . and we are less draft picks

 

[duke1861]

lets hope its not a case of doth protests too much

Right

What is really laughable is IF the Bears convert and IF JAX converts, the team is 0-6.

The fact that Turner simply needed "weapons and a good "QB" takes the cake though. Anyone can play the "what if" game. While Wenz is NOT the sole reason, Rivera does bear a lot of the blame. Rivera's poor free agent strategy, Turner's lack of experience, and Wentz's limitations/weaknesses all come in to play. This was stated in the offseason and was dismissed due to being negative propaganda.

 

[duke1861]

dean your past has been about blaming KC for every loss he ever took . its not like he had great teams here. now if you judge KC on wins then the same must be done with wince by your own standards you held

the real truth is the team is substandard . the o/line bleeding talent , which i warned about , was dismissed . now we know neither replacement is any good and are liabilities . we had the money to sign them but people on this board stubbornly cling to conventional wisdom

worse yet they will advocate the same things when it comes to payne , who is our best all around d/lineman

you cant bleed talent and expect to win especially at the LOS

right now wince is the wrong qb for this team . wince cant climb the pocket , he isnt nimble , he doesnt know where and when to put the ball . he isnt aware of down , distance or situation

on top of that he isnt getting good coaching or he isnt accepting it

right now we are in no better position then what we would have been with falco . and we are less draft picks

We were never going to get double-digit wins...many people tried to say that.

The reports of Wentz struggling with coaching were mocked as we claimed Turner would address it and the "weapons" would be all he needs. When the weak OLine was brought up, it was dismissed.

 

[deanpet21]

dean your past has been about blaming KC for every loss he ever took . its not like he had great teams here. now if you judge KC on wins then the same must be done with wince by your own standards you held

the real truth is the team is substandard . the o/line bleeding talent , which i warned about , was dismissed . now we know neither replacement is any good and are liabilities . we had the money to sign them but people on this board stubbornly cling to conventional wisdom

worse yet they will advocate the same things when it comes to payne , who is our best all around d/lineman

you cant bleed talent and expect to win especially at the LOS

right now wince is the wrong qb for this team . wince cant climb the pocket , he isnt nimble , he doesnt know where and when to put the ball . he isnt aware of down , distance or situation

on top of that he isnt getting good coaching or he isnt accepting it

right now we are in no better position then what we would have been with falco . and we are less draft picks

KC had a way better oline and running game. I know the oline would regress but not like this. The secondary is just god awful. The list goes on and on. I made my prediction on being if everything goes right. Im not saying Wentz is playing at a high level. No QB would with this oline and current play caller. To pin the failures on him is just crazy to me. The whole team is failing, Pointing the finger at just Wentz is not right.

We are in no better position now b/c of our whole team not just Wentz. The whole team has failed and again we could be 3-3.

 

[skinsdad62]

https://twitter.com/i/broadcasts/1dRJZMWnPLmGB

wince presser

 

[skinsdad62]

KC had a way better oline and running game. I know the oline would regress but not like this. The secondary is just god awful. The list goes on and on. I made my prediction on being if everything goes right. Im not saying Wentz is playing at a high level. No QB would with this oline and current play caller. To pin the failures on him is just crazy to me. The whole team is failing, Pointing the finger at just Wentz is not right.

We are in no better position now b/c of our whole team not just Wentz. The whole team has failed and again we could be 3-3.

you unfairly judged KC by wins and now wince is getting it because of wins

 

[duke1861]

you unfairly judged KC by wins and now wince is getting it because of wins

Wentz was NOT the reason we won and everybody knows that. As you said, the defense won it.

The problem is that the losing is a combination of several things: Rivera, defense, Turner, Wentz and SNYDER

Some fans/posters want to win so badly that they believe in anything. Once Wentz got here, you saw that. Outlandish comments were made and challenges were made to anyone who didn't believe the team would get 11 wins. Nobody is solely blaming Wentz.

The bottom line is, on the field, Rivera drew up the overall strategy. He weakened the OLine and DLine, hired an inexperienced OC, is loyal to a DC who is struggling, and he put the team in the hands of QB who is on his 3rd team in 3 years. It was a recipe for disaster and most people saw that

Rivera should be fired, Wentz should be released and we will have to start over yet again. Anyone wanting to retain Rivera and Wentz is doing it to save face and not admit they were simply wrong during the offseason.

 

[skinsdad62]

Wentz was NOT the reason we won and everybody knows that. As you said, the defense won it.

The problem is that the losing is a combination of several things: Rivera, defense, Turner, Wentz and SNYDER

Some fans/posters want to win so badly that they believe in anything. Once Wentz got here, you saw that. Outlandish comments were made and challenges were made to anyone who didn't believe the team would get 11 wins. Nobody is solely blaming Wentz.

The bottom line is, on the field, Rivera drew up the overall strategy. He weakened the OLine and DLine, hired an inexperienced OC, is loyal to a DC who is struggling, and he put the team in the hands of QB who is on his 3rd team in 3 years. It was a recipe for disaster and most people saw that.

the funny thing is the same people clamor for an elite qb . the abcers ran off KC because he wasnt " elite " but somehow prostrate themselves at the alter of wince

 

[deanpet21]

you unfairly judged KC by wins and now wince is getting it because of wins

I did not unfairly judge KC. He had a nack of throwing the huge int's also. Im saying Wentz has no time at all to throw. No QB would be successful behind this oline.

 

[skinsdad62]

I did not unfairly judge KC. He had a nack of throwing the huge int's also. Im saying Wentz has no time at all to throw. No QB would be successful behind this oline.

last week wince did the very same thing and KC was under pressure as well

 

[deanpet21]

last week wince did the very same thing and KC was under pressure as well

i said he made a very bad read. The fact that we had a chance to win that game was remarkable.

 

[skinsdad62]

3 reasons Commanders should start fire sale after TNF embarrassment

The Commanders beat the Bears on Thursday night, but the embarrassing performance proved the franchise needs to start a fire sale.

riggosrag.com

Sometimes, consistent quarterback play can overcome bad coaching. It’s rare, but quarterbacks can keep teams afloat in spite of bad coaching. It was clear before this season that Carson Wentz isn’t that caliber of signal-caller and Thursday night served as an untimely, but fresh reminder that he’s too inconsistent to win at a high level.

You can also play the offensive line card as an excuse for Wentz, but go rewatch the game and count how many misfires he had. How many times he coiled up in the face of pressure and missed WIDE open receivers. This isn’t a reactionary take from an embarrassing team performance against lesser competition, either.

Wentz has struggled to find consistent form all season. For every 300-yard, two touchdown performance he has against the Titans and Lions, he has a 200-yard, multi-turnover game with less than 5.0 yards per attempt and a sub-60% completion rate in big division games against the Eagles and Cowboys.

 

[deanpet21]

3 reasons Commanders should start fire sale after TNF embarrassment

The Commanders beat the Bears on Thursday night, but the embarrassing performance proved the franchise needs to start a fire sale.

riggosrag.com

Sometimes, consistent quarterback play can overcome bad coaching. It’s rare, but quarterbacks can keep teams afloat in spite of bad coaching. It was clear before this season that Carson Wentz isn’t that caliber of signal-caller and Thursday night served as an untimely, but fresh reminder that he’s too inconsistent to win at a high level.

You can also play the offensive line card as an excuse for Wentz, but go rewatch the game and count how many misfires he had. How many times he coiled up in the face of pressure and missed WIDE open receivers. This isn’t a reactionary take from an embarrassing team performance against lesser competition, either.

Wentz has struggled to find consistent form all season. For every 300-yard, two touchdown performance he has against the Titans and Lions, he has a 200-yard, multi-turnover game with less than 5.0 yards per attempt and a sub-60% completion rate in big division games against the Eagles and Cowboys.

When did the hand injury happen? was it before the Samuel dropped td pass. I didnt watch the game yet

 

[skinsdad62]

i said he made a very bad read. The fact that we had a chance to win that game was remarkable.

but you dont dimiss it that easily when you were judging KC dean and that is my point . your standards are selective . this is a team game and your 11 win season was doomed for failure the moment you uttered it . we constantly told you the coaching , talent and FO moves were horrible

 

[skinsdad62]

When did the hand injury happen? was it before the Samuel dropped td pass. I didnt watch the game yet

before

 

[skinsdad62]

Commanders vs. Bears Week 6 Victory Speech

www.commanders.com

RR locker room speech