Now that it's final, how do you feel about Deshaun Watson?

[Fountain City Blues]

not hard to find 30 women who don't make very much money and let them know they could have a million dollar payday with zero evidence and it coming down to a he said/she said situation.........

Not hard to ruin these women either and more by the same logic. There’s more risk to accusing people than you let on.

 

[dtgold88]

sorry dude. This wasnt about race.
This was a bout a measly QB trying to rip the helmet off of a DLineman & he thinking oh hell no!
Then when the QB came back for more in a fit of passion he swung what was in his hand.

There were black people all around that fight. Not a single one of them mentioned any racial slurs in the initial aftermath. Which if there were any. Someone would have said something. Multiple someone's most likely.

Cool....but his claim to which I replied was Garrett waited a week to make his accusation and according to Glazer that was not true. He said something right away. Never said I believed the accusation.

Did you have help moving the goal posts?

 

[Fountain City Blues]

Just so y'all know

He said / She said is very different from

He said / she, and she, and she, and she, and she, and she, and she, and she, and she, and she, and she, and she, and she, and she, and she, and she, and she, and she, and she, and she, and she, and she, and she, and she, and she, and she, and she, and she, and she, and she, and she, and she, and she, and she said.

 

[dtgold88]

sorry dude. This wasnt about race.
This was a bout a measly QB trying to rip the helmet off of a DLineman & he thinking oh hell no!
Then when the QB came back for more in a fit of passion he swung what was in his hand.

There were black people all around that fight. Not a single one of them mentioned any racial slurs in the initial aftermath. Which if there were any. Someone would have said something. Multiple someone's most likely.

And what if he said it here? Not possible no one else heard?

 

[PIBuckeye]

Just so y'all know

He said / She said is very different from

He said / she, and she, and she, and she, and she, and she, and she, and she, and she, and she, and she, and she, and she, and she, and she, and she, and she, and she, and she, and she, and she, and she, and she, and she, and she, and she, and she, and she, and she, and she, and she, and she, and she, and she said.

bull. not when poor people are looking at a golden payday from a guy worth multimillions.

 

[PIBuckeye]

Not hard to ruin these women either and more by the same logic. There’s more risk to accusing people than you let on.

"ruin" lmao.

"he ruined me so much I gave him another massage and texted with him often."...........

 

[shopson67]

Watson is a dirt bag, but I don't like the path the NFL took to finalize his suspension. If you're going to install someone to make these decisions, stand by that decision. We're back to Goodell being judge/jury/executioner behind this façade of appointees. The trumped judge that Goodell installed gets a hit to her reputation unnecessarily.

If there wasn't enough evidence to prosecute, how is this an 11 game suspension and $5M fine? He's down to one lawsuit remaining. Ultimately it doesn't matter, as he still gets his new contract and the vast majority of people will forget with time if he keeps his image clean and he's playing well. Just ask Big Ben.

 

[Schmoopy1000]

And what if he said it here? Not possible no one else heard?

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you can "what if" this thing to death. Point still being he didnt bring up race initially when asked why he got mad. That was a later response.
He could have said "I fucked your wife last night bitch" in this photo. The "What ifs" are endless. You claiming it was Racial is weak at best.

 

[Stakesarehigh]

Kitchens said nothing. His teammates said nothing. Garrett, who you think would mention something, said nothing. Then, a week goes by and Garrett’s suspension is announced. Then, he says some racial slur was passed.

Victim-blaming in the worst possible way.

Victim is a strong word seeing as he ran after Myles. Myles very much deserved a suspension and his reaction to Mason charging him was not appropriate. That said Myles should have just bitch slapped him after he ripped his helmet off. Would have still been suspended but would've been a more appropriate reaction.

That said Myles shouldn't have been in the game anyway.

 

[dtgold88]

you can "what if" this thing to death. Point still being he didnt bring up race initially when asked why he got mad. That was a later response.
He could have said "I fucked your wife last night bitch" in this photo. The "What ifs" are endless. You claiming it was Racial is weak at best.

Try and stay focused......First, Glazer reported it was said right after the game. Not a week later. If you don't believe Glazer, that's cool but Glazer reported it was said directly to him. Not that someone else told him. As for the photo, the claim was how could no one have heard him and I showed you one time he could have said it with no one hearing it.

Second, I have said over and over I'm not sure I believe it was said and only 6 posts before yours (to you) told you I am not saying I believed the accusations. But feel free to lie and say I claimed it was racial.

 

[Stakesarehigh]

Watson is a dirt bag, but I don't like the path the NFL took to finalize his suspension. If you're going to install someone to make these decisions, stand by that decision. We're back to Goodell being judge/jury/executioner behind this façade of appointees. The trumped judge that Goodell installed gets a hit to her reputation unnecessarily.

If there wasn't enough evidence to prosecute, how is this an 11 game suspension and $5M fine? He's down to one lawsuit remaining. Ultimately it doesn't matter, as he still gets his new contract and the vast majority of people will forget with time if he keeps his image clean and he's playing well. Just ask Big Ben.

I'm fine with the suspension. It's steep but so were Watsons actions. But yea that's why we saw the NFL just as eager to settle to avoid all this potentially dragged into a courtroom.

 

[Schmoopy1000]

Victim is a strong word seeing as he ran after Myles. Myles very much deserved a suspension and his reaction to Mason charging him was not appropriate. That said Myles should have just bitch slapped him after he ripped his helmet off. Would have still been suspended but would've been a more appropriate reaction.

That said Myles shouldn't have been in the game anyway.

I think it would have been cool with a nice hip toss body slam myself. But once he swung the helmet you knew his year was done.

 

[dtgold88]

I think it would have been cool with a nice hip toss body slam myself. But once he swung the helmet you knew his year was done.

No doubt that was over the line (way over) no matter what was said to him or not said.

 

[Schmoopy1000]

Try and stay focused......First, Glazer reported it was said right after the game. Not a week later. If you don't believe Glazer, that's cool but Glazer reported it was said directly to him. Not that someone else told him. As for the photo, the claim was how could no one have heard him and I showed you one time he could have said it with no one hearing it.

Second, I have said over and over I'm not sure I believe it was said and only 6 posts before yours (to you) told you I am not saying I believed the accusations. But feel free to lie and say I claimed it was racial.

 

[Manster7588]

Watson is a dirt bag, but I don't like the path the NFL took to finalize his suspension. If you're going to install someone to make these decisions, stand by that decision. We're back to Goodell being judge/jury/executioner behind this façade of appointees. The trumped judge that Goodell installed gets a hit to her reputation unnecessarily.

If there wasn't enough evidence to prosecute, how is this an 11 game suspension and $5M fine? He's down to one lawsuit remaining. Ultimately it doesn't matter, as he still gets his new contract and the vast majority of people will forget with time if he keeps his image clean and he's playing well. Just ask Big Ben.

The NFL had a longer than 6 game suspension in mind from the get go. It possibly had the Judge gave 19 game with ni fine the NFL would have said fine and closed the book.

6 games was a joke of a punishment and most of us agree it had to be longer. Personally I think he still git off light.

 

[dtgold88]

schmoopy to English - "got me again, dt, but you know it's not in me to just say I was off base in my 'logic'."

 

[fastforward]

Probably already posted. I don't care
Probably fake. I don't care

If he also had them in Kelly green he would have sold 3 times as many.

 

[shopson67]

I'm fine with the suspension. It's steep but so were Watsons actions. But yea that's why we saw the NFL just as eager to settle to avoid all this potentially dragged into a courtroom.

We assume his actions were "steep", he has yet to have his day in court. Not enough evidence for a criminal trial, and only one lawsuit remains for a civil trial. The NFL as his employer doesn't have to wait for the law, but if a judge determined 6 games based on the everything presented to her, why should we assume we know better?

 

[shopson67]

The NFL had a longer than 6 game suspension in mind from the get go. It possibly had the Judge gave 19 game with ni fine the NFL would have said fine and closed the book.

6 games was a joke of a punishment and most of us agree it had to be longer. Personally I think he still git off light.

The level of punishment being appropriate or not in our eyes is moot, since we aren't privy to the evidence.

 

[Dude]

My goodness! The NFL message board has become the NFL massage board in this offseason?