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2022 Lions Off-Season Thread

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Market Value​

  • 4 yrs, $47,482,684
  • Avg. Salary: $11,870,671
  • NFL Rank: 149
  • WR Rank: 19


  • Statistics​

    SEASONTEAMGAGPGSSNAPSSNAPS%TGTRECREC YDSYDS/RECYDS/GMREC TDFUMDROPSPROD PTS
    2021DAL99849840.6623544512.749.4420356.5
    2020DAL161614100387.61055984314.352.69506114.3
    2019DAL14141285475.611266110716.879.076013146.7
    2018DAL1616873868.4683350715.431.6920364.7
    Totals5555423,093-3471932,90215.052.7615025382.20
 

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Market Value​

  • 4 yrs, $47,482,684
  • Avg. Salary: $11,870,671
  • NFL Rank: 149
  • WR Rank: 19


  • Statistics​

    SEASONTEAMGAGPGSSNAPSSNAPS%TGTRECREC YDSYDS/RECYDS/GMREC TDFUMDROPSPROD PTS
    2021DAL99849840.6623544512.749.4420356.5
    2020DAL161614100387.61055984314.352.69506114.3
    2019DAL14141285475.611266110716.879.076013146.7
    2018DAL1616873868.4683350715.431.6920364.7
    Totals5555423,093-3471932,90215.052.7615025382.20
Not what we need. A slow overachiever who will most likely come down to earth with Goff.
 

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Pick up Hockenson's 5th year option but wait until after the 2022 regular season before thinking about giving him an extension. The 5th year option can no longer be rescinded as Bobby Quinn did to Eric Ebron.

Should Goff fail this year then I see no reason to extend Hockenson and not even with an expected much larger Cap coming in 2023 as that's when the new tv contract comes into play. 110 billion for 11 years beginning 2023 and ending 2033.


Here’s a look at the most productive tight ends since Hockenson entered the league (2019-2021):

  1. Travis Kelce: 294 catches, 3,770 yards, 25 TDs
  2. Darren Waller: 252 catches, 3,006 yards, 14 TDs
  3. Mark Andrews: 229 catches, 2,914 yards, 26 TDs
  4. George Kittle: 204 catches, 2,597 yards, 13 TDs
  5. Mike Gesicki: 177 catches, 2,053 yards, 13 TDs
  6. Zach Ertz: 198 catches, 2,014 yards, 12 TDs
  7. Dallas Goedert: 160 catches, 1,961 yards, 12 TDs
  8. Noah Fant: 170 catches, 1,905 yards, 10 TDs
  9. Hunter Henry: 165 catches, 1,868 yards, 18 TDs
  10. Tyler Higbee: 174 catches, 1,815 yards, 13 TDs
  11. Jared Cook: 128 catches, 1,773 yards, 20 TDs
  12. T.J. Hockenson: 160 catches, 1,673 yards, 12 TDs

The other part of Hockenson’s game—his blocking—also needs to be considered. He was hailed as someone capable of doing both, especially coming from a pro-style offense at Iowa. Unfortunately, Hockenson hasn’t been a dominant blocker at the next level at this point in his career. Here’s a look at his PFF blocking grades each year and where it ranks among qualifying TEs (minimum 20% of snaps):

2019:

  • 35.2 pass blocking grade (76/78)
  • 60.8 run blocking grade (28/78)
2020:

  • 50.9 pass blocking grade (61/81)
  • 70.9 run blocking grade (14/81)
2021:

  • 65.4 pass blocking grade (40/85)
  • 45.1 run blocking grade (81/85)
Last year, there were two big-time extensions given to tight ends:

Dallas Goedert: Four years, $57 million ($14.25M/year)
Mark Andrews: Four years, $56 million ($14M/year)
 

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Also, I would consider tendering Lions back-up C, Evan Brown, as 2nd round tender. It would cost an additional 1.5M but there are teams in need of a starting center and Brown has proven he's more than capable. Should a team sign him to that tender, we would receive their 2nd round pick. The bad side to that proposition is losing an experienced center, like Brown, should Ragnow have any lingering effects and not being ready for regular season games or should the latter become injured again.

Brown would rank 17th or 18th among average per year for centers with this possible scenario as I believe Jason Kelce has hinted at retiring. Brown also cross-trained some at OG during last year's training camp.

The Lions local media are currently expecting Holmes to tender Brown as Right of First Refusal.


2022 Projected RFA Tenders​

TypeAmount
First Round$5,562,000
Second Round$3,986,000
Right of First Refusal$2,433,000
 

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^^^^^

Maybe a bad idea, IDK, as I'm usually 100% Wrong, 99% of the time.
 

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Pick up Hockenson's 5th year option but wait until after the 2022 regular season before thinking about giving him an extension. The 5th year option can no longer be rescinded as Bobby Quinn did to Eric Ebron.

Should Goff fail this year then I see no reason to extend Hockenson and not even with an expected much larger Cap coming in 2023 as that's when the new tv contract comes into play. 110 billion for 11 years beginning 2023 and ending 2033.


Here’s a look at the most productive tight ends since Hockenson entered the league (2019-2021):

  1. Travis Kelce: 294 catches, 3,770 yards, 25 TDs
  2. Darren Waller: 252 catches, 3,006 yards, 14 TDs
  3. Mark Andrews: 229 catches, 2,914 yards, 26 TDs
  4. George Kittle: 204 catches, 2,597 yards, 13 TDs
  5. Mike Gesicki: 177 catches, 2,053 yards, 13 TDs
  6. Zach Ertz: 198 catches, 2,014 yards, 12 TDs
  7. Dallas Goedert: 160 catches, 1,961 yards, 12 TDs
  8. Noah Fant: 170 catches, 1,905 yards, 10 TDs
  9. Hunter Henry: 165 catches, 1,868 yards, 18 TDs
  10. Tyler Higbee: 174 catches, 1,815 yards, 13 TDs
  11. Jared Cook: 128 catches, 1,773 yards, 20 TDs
  12. T.J. Hockenson: 160 catches, 1,673 yards, 12 TDs

The other part of Hockenson’s game—his blocking—also needs to be considered. He was hailed as someone capable of doing both, especially coming from a pro-style offense at Iowa. Unfortunately, Hockenson hasn’t been a dominant blocker at the next level at this point in his career. Here’s a look at his PFF blocking grades each year and where it ranks among qualifying TEs (minimum 20% of snaps):

2019:

  • 35.2 pass blocking grade (76/78)
  • 60.8 run blocking grade (28/78)
2020:

  • 50.9 pass blocking grade (61/81)
  • 70.9 run blocking grade (14/81)
2021:

  • 65.4 pass blocking grade (40/85)
  • 45.1 run blocking grade (81/85)
Last year, there were two big-time extensions given to tight ends:

Dallas Goedert: Four years, $57 million ($14.25M/year)
Mark Andrews: Four years, $56 million ($14M/year)
The one year that Hockenson was healthy and started all 16 he was third in yards among TE's in yards and was above average in run blocking. I did think he was far more of a vertical threat that he has been though. I agree on the 5th year option and waiting to extend.
 

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Also, I would consider tendering Lions back-up C, Evan Brown, as 2nd round tender. It would cost an additional 1.5M but there are teams in need of a starting center and Brown has proven he's more than capable. Should a team sign him to that tender, we would receive their 2nd round pick. The bad side to that proposition is losing an experienced center, like Brown, should Ragnow have any lingering effects and not being ready for regular season games or should the latter become injured again.

Brown would rank 17th or 18th among average per year for centers with this possible scenario as I believe Jason Kelce has hinted at retiring. Brown also cross-trained some at OG during last year's training camp.

The Lions local media are currently expecting Holmes to tender Brown as Right of First Refusal.


2022 Projected RFA Tenders​

TypeAmount
First Round$5,562,000
Second Round$3,986,000
Right of First Refusal$2,433,000

One cannot trust the needs of teams via a media analyst outlet, but if DraftTek is close to being correct then the following might exist.


Starter Need High (P1, P2) OT
Starter Need Medium (P3) OC EDGE CB


Starter Need High (P1, P2) NYJ, Dal, NYG, Car, TB
Starter Need Medium (P3) Buf, Bal, Chi, LaR, Sea, SF
 

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What happens to Trey Flowers now that Campbell/Glenn will be using more 4-man fronts and does Charles Harris fit this scheme using more 4-man fronts? Obviously, as stated in that tweet or more so in the article, they'll still be using some 3-4 fronts.

With this change, will we be looking more for 4-3 Edge type player than say the 3-4OLB/Edge player?
 

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the one missing link, the piece to bring the offense full circle, is an outside receiver who can win one-on-ones and force a defense to roll coverage his way.

"The more we can expand both vertically and horizontally, outside the numbers and deep down the field, that's going to make those guys on the inside that much more dangerous."

"I think it comes in a number of shapes and forms, but I think the definition of it really is a guy ... who can win consistently one-on-one, whether that's a big guy with a lot of strength and size or whether that's a guy with elite quickness or speed," Johnson said.

"I think it comes in a number of different ways, but that's what we're looking for, someone outside the numbers predominantly, who can win a one on one, and if he's good at his job, dictates coverage. They recognize where he's at all times and start rolling his way, which will open us up for the run game and everything else inside. That's really what we want."
 

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1. Where is this draft class particularly strong in Holmes' eyes? And how might that align with some of Detroit's needs? Holmes listed interior defensive line, wide receiver, cornerback and safety as position groups he views as strong in this draft class. It just so happens that two of Detroit's biggest needs are at receiver and safety.
 

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4. Campbell said getting a No. 1-caliber receiver on the outside will really help the efficiency of the Lions' offense moving forward. Campbell made it pretty clear adding an outside receiver is one thing they want to accomplish this offseason, whether that's through free agency, the draft or both.
 

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8. Campbell said he still hasn't made a decision on whether he or new offensive coordinator Ben Johnson will call plays next year.
 

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10. The Lions will probably add a linebacker or two this offseason, and Campbell said the move to more of a four-down scheme upfront will allow them to play more downhill, which is something Campbell wants to see more of from that position in 2022.
 

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9. The measurables and 40-yard dash times get a lot of headlines this week, but Holmes still likes the tape. He utilizes GPS tracking info and hand-timed runs and electronic times, but at the end of the day, he always challenges his staff to tell him how fast a player is on film. Holmes thinks a team shouldn't have to wait to evaluate a player on what he runs on a clock. If the clock doesn't confirm the tape, it's just more work they have to do on the prospect.
 

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Not every draft pick hit right away for the Detroit Lions in 2021, but GM Brad Holmes and the Lions absolutely nailed a couple of the undrafted free agent rookies. That includes the UDFA that earned the highest Pro Football Focus grade of the rookie class.

Cornerback Jerry Jacobs soared above the rest of the UDFA field. He landed a 65.8 overall grade, which was good for fifth overall amongst all rookie CBs. Three of the four players above him were first-round picks, along with Raiders’ 5th rounder, Nate Hobbs. Jacobs, from Arkansas, wound up as the 17th-best rookie defender.
 
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