2022 Lions Off-Season Thread

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In the article, Gosselin points out that the Lions' special teams were one of only four teams that “did not suffer any negative plays on special teams – no blocked kicks, turnovers or return touchdowns.”

The Lions also finished in the top five in of Gosselin’s rankings in:

• Opponent starting point: Third best, 23.8-yard line
• Punting: Second, 49.2 gross yards — a franchise record set by Jack Fox

 

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• Rookie kicker Riley Patterson converted on 13 of his 14 field goal attempts (93% conversion rate), with his only miss coming from a desperation 55-yard attempt at the end of the first half in Seattle.

 

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Lions mailbag mini: What got better, worse when Dan Campbell took over as play caller?

We take a closer look at the things that got better—and worse—in the second half of the season.

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In what areas did the team get better and worse after Campbell took over play calling?​

Passer rating

• Before: 85.3
• After: 91.2

Yards per pass attempt

• Before: 5.4
• After: 6.0

Yards per rush

• Before: 4.07
• After: 4.68

Points per game

• Before: 16.8
• After: 21.2

Sacks allowed

• Before: 22
• After: 14

Third down conversion rate:

• Before: 34.3%
• After: 35.1%

Fourth down conversion rate:

• Before: 38.1%
• After: 65.0%

Getting Decker back for the 2nd half of the season has to be a big part of the ascend as well.

 

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Notes: Detroit Lions defense deserves credit for late-season improvement

We’ve talked a lot about the improvement on offense, but the defense was sneaky good down the stretch.

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Maybe some intrigue and maybe not as all players injuries are not equal nor is their own specific rehab, but...... Akers looked damn good from these tired, old eyes

• On Monday, Rams running back Cam Akers made his 2021 season debut after tearing his Achilles in July—a stunning development given that injury usually takes around a full year to recover. Seeing as both Jeff Okudah and Romeo Okwara are dealing with the same injury, this excellent piece from Jourdan Rodrigue of The Athletic detailing Akers’ 5.5-month rehabilitation is worth reading ($).

 

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• Rookie kicker Riley Patterson converted on 13 of his 14 field goal attempts (93% conversion rate), with his only miss coming from a desperation 55-yard attempt at the end of the first half in Seattle.

That one he missed was real ugly though but definitely should be resigned. He is more than serviceable.

 

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Once again, you illustrate your lack of knowledge within the team and its players, but you'll constantly and consistently complain about anything Lions players just to receive feedback.

LOL... the only difference between Tracy Walker playing SS and FS is not as many starts. Walker was still making plays as a SS even though the team wasn't playing for MP. As far as Duron Harmon being considered Matt Patricia buddy, as @Mebert said, IDK, I'm sure MP knew more about a seasoned Veterran. I remember Randy Logan playing the "Wolfman" position (LB/S hybrid) for Bo Schembechler at Michigan before going on to play for the Eagles as a SS. Rod Marinelli brought in hasbeens and bench warmers from the Buccaneers, Jim Schwartz brought in Kyle Vanden Bosch from the Titans, Jim Caldwell brought in Haloti Ngata from the Ravens. So, do we start throwing rocks at Trey Flowers because he was Matt Patricia buddy too?

 

[Mebert]

LOL... the only difference between Tracy Walker playing SS and FS is not as many starts. Walker was still making plays as a SS even though the team wasn't playing for MP. As far as Duron Harmon being considered Matt Patricia buddy, as @Mebert said, IDK, I'm sure MP knew more about a seasoned Veterran. I remember Randy Logan playing the "Wolfman" position (LB/S hybrid) for Bo Schembechler at Michigan before going on to play for the Eagles as a SS. Rod Marinelli brought in hasbeens and bench warmers from the Buccaneers, Jim Schwartz brought in Kyle Vanden Bosch from the Titans, Jim Caldwell brought in Haloti Ngata from the Ravens. So, do we start throwing rocks at Trey Flowers because he was Matt Patricia buddy too?

Is the claim here that Free and Strong safety have the same responsibilities? Walker is terrible in the box and very good playing deep. Patricia had him taking 51% of his snaps out of the box and only 16 at the Free Safety spot. It is 100% that Patricia played his best DB out of position, now he is back in his spot and playing great again.

As for Flowers? I think he needs to stay because we don't have anything better, a 23 million cap hit for a guy who has played half the games 2 years in a row is not ideal though. That is not a Patricia issue. If he gets hurt again or plays down then absolutely get rid of him when you get 18 million in cap space back.

 

[LionsWhyMe]

Is the claim here that Free and Strong safety have the same responsibilities? Walker is terrible in the box and very good playing deep. Patricia had him taking 51% of his snaps out of the box and only 16 at the Free Safety spot. It is 100% that Patricia played his best DB out of position, now he is back in his spot and playing great again.

The truth of the matter is Tracy Walker was beaten out on snaps by Will Harris. It's Harris that didn't do so well or the same can be said about up-front.

As for Flowers? I think he needs to stay because we don't have anything better, a 23 million cap hit for a guy who has played half the games 2 years in a row is not ideal though. That is not a Patricia issue. If he gets hurt again or plays down then absolutely get rid of him when you get 18 million in cap space back.

That would be Bob Quinn hooking his buddy (as you would say) Trey Flowers up.

 

[Mebert]

The truth of the matter is Tracy Walker was beaten out on snaps by Will Harris. It's Harris that didn't do so well or the

Harris didn't outplay anybody, Patricia just made the wrong call.

That would be Bob Quinn hooking his buddy (as you would say) Trey Flowers up.

Flowers was an over pay, but it was based on potential. He had 3 years a very good production, and was hitting his peak years. It was a gamble that he would take the next step and he didn't. Thay kind of contract is done all of the time, Quinn just missed. Not hooking up his buddy.

 

[LionsWhyMe]

Harris didn't outplay anybody,

That's what I said.

Patricia just made the wrong call.

That might have been right at the time.

Flowers was an over pay,

Agreed.

 

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I like this move to promote within as Goff seemed to gel with Johnson's design of plays after Lynn was let go.

Report: Detroit Lions to promote TE coach Ben Johnson to OC

The Lions have their next offensive coordinator.

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After the bye week, Johnson got more involved in the offense, and while Campbell was still calling the plays on game days, players and coaches noted on multiple occasions the impact Johnson was having on the offensive scheme.

 

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I sure as hell hope Pleasant doesn't get this opportunity. Should A.G. leave for a H.C. job I would like to see Pleasant get the D.C. title. Plus, the development of the secondary under Pleasant appears to be working even though it's only a small sample of one year mentoring this young group/

Report: Vikings request to interview Lions’ DB coach Aubrey Pleasant for DC job

Pleasant has ties to the new Vikings coach Kevin O’Connell.

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Lions mock offseason for 2022, first edition

The first of several offseason potential paths that includes roster cuts, free agency and the 2022 NFL draft

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Lions free agents to re-sign​

EDGE Charles Harris

WR Josh Reynolds

S Tracy Walker

WR Kalif Raymond

Free agents to sign​

• Marcus Williams, S, Saints
• Chris Godwin, WR, Buccaneers
• Foye Oluokun, LB, Falcons
• Byron Pringle, WR, Chiefs
• Efe Obada, EDGE, Bills
• M.J. Stewart, DB, Browns
• Maxx Williams, TE, Cardinals
• Sebastian Joseph-Day, DT, Rams
• Trevor Siemian, QB, Saints
• Ogbonnia Okoronkwo, OLB, Rams

 

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Lions mock offseason v2.0: The one with the trades

The second of several potential offseason paths for the Lions that includes free agency, three trades and the 2022 NFL draft

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Lions free agents to re-sign​

• LB Jalen Reeves-Maybin – two years, $6 million
• WR Josh Reynolds – 1 year, $3 million
• QB Tim Boyle – 1 year, $2 million
• WR KhaDarel Hodge – 1 year, $1.75 million (for his special teams value)
• LB Shaun Dion Hamilton – 1 year, $970,000

Free agents to sign​

• Marcus Williams, S, Saints
• Foye Oluokun, LB, Falcons
• Justin Reid, S, Texans
• Mike Gesicki, TE, Dolphins
• Quinton Jefferson, DT, Raiders
• Ricky Seals-Jones, TE, Cardinals
• Donte Deayon, CB, Rams

 

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Lions mock offseason v2.0: The one with the trades

The second of several potential offseason paths for the Lions that includes free agency, three trades and the 2022 NFL draft

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Risdon is NUTS if he thinks that Holmes should trade for Saints WR M. Thomas. 1st the cost of our 2023 1st rd pic from the rams, our original 2022 3rd round pick and Hock (FUCK THAT NOISE)- 2nd he hasn't been healthy - 3rd he's become complacent and a diva

BTW: I could see Holmes not extending Hockenson and attempting to get value for him before his 5th year option runs out.

 

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I'm on board with re-signing
C. Harris, T. Walker, JRM, J. Reynolds, K. Raymond, S.D. Hamilton
plus, RFA or ERFA J. Cabinda, E. Brown, J. Fox, R. Patterson, T. Kraemer, A. Pittman, S. Zylstra, B. Wright, S. Daly, J. Woods

but none of the higher priced UFA he's outlined in M. Williams, C. Godwin - late season ACL, M. Geisicki

 

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Chris Godwin

Market Value​

• 5 yrs, $90,979,940
• Avg. Salary: $18,195,988

Mike Gesicki

Market Value​

• 4 yrs, $44,013,320
• Avg. Salary: $11,003,330

Marcus Williams

Market Value​

• 5 yrs, $75,191,675
• Avg. Salary: $15,038,335