2021-2022 Mariners offseason/free agency thread

[NWinAZ]

well..mariners..also..have..julio................who will..be up..and trammell....if winkler ..gets tired..and..he can always..LHDH..so

Jesse Winker is 2nd in the Major Leagues with a .346 Batting Average.
Adam Frazier is 6th with a .325 average, Jared Walsh is 7th with a .321 average, Michael Brantley is 17th with a .305 average, and Joey Wendle of the Rays is 18th with a .305 batting average.

I guess it was July he struggled in batting .241 for the month and only a couple of homers. He did bat .371 in August with 3 homers so he came out of it pretty fast.

 

[ulmax]

 

[ulmax]

Jesse Winker

28

LF

Arb 2

2

$7,000,000

-

$7,000,000

$7,000,000

6.64

7,000,000

also...a fairly good bargain....at only..7mil...swarber..will..be 10-12- ..who knows...with 2 years to go...

 

[ulmax]

if..ff..they where..to trade..you would expect...this one....first...and maybe one...after.....for who..idk..but..maybe a pitcher...idk...who....yet..

 

[ulmax]

cast..off ...mate

 

[ulmax]

this o0ne is prob as good as i could do..getting...mahle...which..i can trade..for a LHP..or get..robbie ray...

Name	Age	Level	P1	P2	Availablility	Years	AFV	Salary	Surplus	Low	Median	High
Mahle	26	Majors	SP		Medium	2.0	54.4	14.0	40.4	32.3	40.4	48.5
McLain		Minors	SS						15.4	12.3	15.4	18.5
Naquin	30	Majors	OF		Medium	1.0	3.7	3.6	0.1	0	0.1	0.2
Torres		Minors	SS						1.8	1.4	1.8	2.2
Winker	27	Majors	OF		Medium	2.0	36.1	17.0	19.1	15.3	19.1	22.9

Total Value: 76.80​

Reds​

Name	Age	Level	P1	P2	Availablility	Years	AFV	Salary	Surplus	Low	Median	High
Clase		Minors	OF						2.4	1.9	2.4	2.9
Fraley	26	Majors	OF		High	5.0	1.9	0.6	1.3	1	1.3	1.6
Marte		Minors	SS						63.2	50.6	63.2	75.8
Then		Minors	RHP						4.9	3.9	4.9	5.9
Trammell	23	Majors	OF		Medium	5.3	8.5	3.4	5.1	4.1	5.1	6.1

 

[ulmax]

looks..like i got the wrong pitcher........................................ but mahle..still works better..

Castillo

28

Majors

SP

Medium

2.0

87.3

19.0

68.3

54.6

68.3

81.9

a bit cheaper...and still..some upside..........
Mahle 26 Majors SP Medium 2.0 54.4 14.0 40.4 32.3 40.4

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  LUIS CASTILLOSP, CINCINNATI REDS
  
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  According to MLB.com's Jon Morosi, the Mariners are among the teams that have checked in on Reds starter Luis Castillo.​

  Reds GM Nick Krall told reporters earlier this month that "we must align our payroll to our resources and continue focusing on scouting and developing young talent from within our system," which suggests that a couple of high-dollar players could be on the move. Castillo is set for a substantial raise via salary arbitration after pitching to a 3.98 ERA with 192 strikeouts over 187 2/3 innings (33 starts) in 2021. He'd probably flourish in Seattle's more pitcher-friendly environment but is also fit for a range of other clubs.

 

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mahle....................

Tyler Mahle
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• Tyler F. Mahle
• Nickname: Mal
• Born: 9/29/1994 in Newport Beach, CA
• Draft: 2013, Cincinnati Reds, Round: 7, Overall Pick: 225
• High School: Westminster, Westminster, CA
• Debut: 8/27/2017
• Relationship(s): brother of Greg

​

mmahles only winning season..as well..............but 13-6..is good..210 so​

Season	Team	LG	W	L	ERA	G	GS	CG	SHO	HLD	SV	SVO	IP	H	R	ER	HR	NP	HB	BB	IBB	SO	AVG	WHIP	GO/AO
2017	CIN	NL	1	2	2.70	4	4	0	0	0	0	0	20.0	19	6	6	0	369	4	11	1	14	.253	1.50	1.10
2018	CIN	NL	7	9	4.98	23	23	0	0	0	0	0	112.0	125	68	62	22	2071	3	53	7	110	.283	1.59	0.89
2019	CIN	NL	3	12	5.14	25	25	0	0	0	0	0	129.2	136	82	74	25	2211	6	34	0	129	.266	1.31	1.22
2020	CIN	NL	2	2	3.59	10	9	0	0	0	0	0	47.2	34	21	19	6	852	4	21	0	60	.198	1.15	0.46
2021	CIN	NL	13	6	3.75	33	33	0	0	0	0	0	180.0	158	78	75	24	3196	10	64	0	210	.234	1.23	1.07

 

[ulmax]

castillo...one winning season...........................but when he does go..190 innings..his strikeouts are good..with 226.
and yeah..he prob is better..than mahle..but not by much...

Career Stats​

Season	Team	LG	W	L	ERA	G	GS	CG	SHO	HLD	SV	SVO	IP	H	R	ER	HR	NP	HB	BB	IBB	SO	AVG	WHIP	GO/AO
2017	CIN	NL	3	7	3.12	15	15	0	0	0	0	0	89.1	64	32	31	11	1484	3	32	1	98	.202	1.07	1.84
2018	CIN	NL	10	12	4.30	31	31	0	0	0	0	0	169.2	158	89	81	28	2778	5	49	1	165	.245	1.22	1.33
2019	CIN	NL	15	8	3.40	32	32	0	0	0	0	0	190.2	139	76	72	22	3158	7	79	0	226	.202	1.14	1.80
2020	CIN	NL	4	6	3.21	12	12	1	0	0	0	0	70.0	62	31	25	5	1153	1	24	0	89	.233	1.23	2.52
2021	CIN	NL	8	16	3.98	33	33	0	0	0	0	0	187.2	181	94	83	19	3164	7	75	4	192	.255	1.36	1.85
MLB Career	-	-	40	49	3.72	123	123	1	0	0	0	0	707.1	604	322	292	85	11737	23	259	6	770	.230	1.22	1.73

Advanced Career Stats​

 

[seahawksfan234]

You nailed this one. I think the same exact thing and that would be one more comparison to Olshey. Both love themselves more than they love anyone else. Pricks.


I replied to a tweet regarding this same thing. As a move? Yes. As the move? No.

On the bright side, two different people from MLBTR predicted Kris Bryant to the Mariners. I'm sure I'll be severely disappointed but I think he is exactly what we need if we don't pursue a trade for a third baseman or sign one of the more coveted middle infielders and move them to third.

The Mariners need to make a splash at 3B and/or 2B, ideally both but that's a bit overly optimistic. I like Toro but I really see him as more of a utility guy.

 

[seahawksfan234]

Here is a hot take: I would trade Kelenic for Bryan Reynolds. I can't remember if I posted this here or texted a friend about this idea.

I'd probably feel differently if Kelenic didn't struggle so much this year, but Reynolds is an established centerfielder who doesn't hit free agency until 2026. I believe Kelenic's ceiling to be roughly what Bryan Reynolds currently is at. Kelenic is four years younger, but at least we wouldn't have to wait for him to figure things out.

 

[seahawksfan234]

I don't know if this has been posted, but god damn:

 

[seahawksfan234]

One thing I hope that Dipoto leverages in contact negotiations is that Washington currently has no state income tax.

I know I can't help but bring up Kris Bryant again, but when it comes to negotiating with him we are at an advantage because California has an income tax of 12.3% on individuals earning $599k or more a year.

MLBTR projects Kris Bryant to get a contract of 6 years $160m. A 12.3% tax on $160m is nearly $20m.

 

[NWinAZ]

Best year in some time, but all is not good and fuzzy on the coaching side. 4 new coaches in, 2 out.

Mariners Announce 2022 Major League Coaching Staff

Tony Arnerich (Hitting Coach), Kristopher Negrón (First Base Coach) and Andy McKay (Major League Coach & Sr. Director of Baseball…

marinersblog.mlblogs.com

 

[NWinAZ]

Here is a hot take: I would trade Kelenic for Bryan Reynolds. I can't remember if I posted this here or texted a friend about this idea.

I'd probably feel differently if Kelenic didn't struggle so much this year, but Reynolds is an established centerfielder who doesn't hit free agency until 2026. I believe Kelenic's ceiling to be roughly what Bryan Reynolds currently is at. Kelenic is four years younger, but at least we wouldn't have to wait for him to figure things out.

You talking crazy!!!! LOL. I get your point, but I am greedy and would like both. When you have a valid MLB player at the same position, you don't have to count on the rookie so much and you can just let him grow at his own pace.

 

[NWinAZ]

Best year in some time, but all is not good and fuzzy on the coaching side. 4 new coaches in, 2 out.

Mariners Announce 2022 Major League Coaching Staff

Tony Arnerich (Hitting Coach), Kristopher Negrón (First Base Coach) and Andy McKay (Major League Coach & Sr. Director of Baseball…

marinersblog.mlblogs.com

 

[ulmax]

i would think about it..as well...cuz..mariners still have lewis...he could Lf..so could fraley..so no probs....but one..Bryan Reynolds.

value..is thought ..to be..85 -100..now..the mariners could prob make the 85..it would take almost every trade chip they have..

and some they dont want to get rid of..............

...that is the reason..i trade marte..in..simulation.....i really only need..for example...

the cinncy trade..winkler....and a starting pitcher..and that is a possible savings..25..to..30 mil...depending....

and i could....dunn..for..a 5th..or 6th guy...i could go lodolo lh p..at AAA..or mahle..but i would mabe trade mahle to okakland..for lhp


the prob when i trade marte..is ..i need to replace him....cuz..the mariners are already..shy..a ss at modesto.....so that takes up most of the space..

of value.for marte......and then some..but he is the only chip..they ..have..really...and jedi..says no way on ..him....soo

 

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some cf..i have..come across..
tyler naqin..of cinncy...around 270..car ave...that..is really..not bad..and they have almost..zero value on him....is he renolds or lewis...nope..
why i was trading trammell..to cinny as well..and fraley...lolol


but olson..was same prob as reynolds