2022 Rosterbation

[calsnowskier]

This is a BIG year for the FZ front office. The team will be DRASTICALLY different next year.

Under contract
———————
Evan Longoria 3B 19.67m
Tommy LaStella Util 5.27m
Jake McGee RHP 2.5m
Alex Dickerson OF A4
Curt Casali C A4
Jarlin Garcia LHP A3
Austin Slater OF A2
John Brebbia RHP A2
Reyes Moronta RHP A2
Mike Yastrzemski OF A1
Tyler Beede RHP A1
Steven Duggar OF A1
Caleb Baragar LHP Pre-Arb
Mauricio Dubon Util Pre-Arb
Tyler Rogers RHP Pre-Arb
Logan Web RHP Pre-Arb
Joey Bart C Pre-Arb
Alexander Canario OF Pre-Arb
Sam Long RHP Pre-Arb
Kervin Castro RHP Pre-Arb
Jaylin Davis OF Pre-Arb
Camilo Doval RHP Pre-Arb
Conner Menez LHP Pre-Arb
Dedniel Nunez RHP Pre-Arb
Gregory Santos RHP Pre-Arb
Sam Selman LHP Pre-Arb
Chadwick Tromp C Pre-Arb
Jason Vosler Util Pre-Arb
LaMont Wade OF/1B Pre-Arb

Zach Littell RHP ???
Jimmie Sherry RHP ???
Thairo Estrada Util ???
Michael Tauchman OF ???
Dominick Leone RHP ???

 

[calsnowskier]

Free Agents
——————
Buster Posey C
Brandon Belt 1B
Brandan Crawford SS
Wilmer Flores Util
Kevin Gausman RHP
Johnny Cueto RHP
Alex Wood LHP
Anthony Desclafani RHP
Donovan Solano 2B
Aaron Sanchez RHP
Darin Ruf OF

 

[calsnowskier]

I knew it was massive, but holy shit...

We are only on the hook for 27.5m next year (not counting buyouts)

 

[LHG]

Free Agents
——————
Buster Posey C
Brandon Belt 1B
Brandan Crawford SS
Wilmer Flores Util
Kevin Gausman RHP
Johnny Cueto RHP
Alex Wood LHP
Anthony Desclafani RHP
Donovan Solano 2B
Aaron Sanchez RHP
Darin Ruf OF

Dominic Leone will be a free agent at the end of this year as well (per BBRef).
Of those you mentioned, Posey, Flores and Cueto have options for 2022. Jose Alvarez will also be a free agent with an option for 2022.
Also, Darin Ruf is still under control through 2023.

 

[calsnowskier]

As the 2022 roster looks now...

C - Bart
C - Casali

1B - Wade
2B - La Stella
SS - Dubon
3B - Longoria
Util - Vosler
Util - Estrada

OF - Yastrzemski
OF - Dickerson
OF - Slater
OF - Duggar
OF - Tauchman

SP - Beede
SP - Long
SP - Webb
SP - Menez
SP -

RP - McGee
RP - Moronta
RP - Brebbia
RP - Garcia
RP - Rogers
RP - Selman
RP - Doval
RP - Baragar

i expect Posey and Craw to resign. I think there is a decent shot Gausman and Disco resign. We will also likely get AT LEAST 1 big name FA, probably 2.

 

[LHG]

As the 2022 roster looks now...

C - Bart
C - Casali

1B - Wade
2B - La Stella
SS - Dubon
3B - Longoria
Util - Vosler
Util - Estrada

OF - Yastrzemski
OF - Dickerson
OF - Slater
OF - Duggar
OF - Tauchman

SP - Beede
SP - Long
SP - Webb
SP - Menez
SP -

RP - McGee
RP - Moronta
RP - Brebbia
RP - Garcia
RP - Rogers
RP - Selman
RP - Doval
RP - Baragar

i expect Posey and Craw to resign. I think there is a decent shot Gausman and Disco resign. We will also likely get AT LEAST 1 big name FA, probably 2.

Does your source show Ruf being a free agent this offseason?

 

[calsnowskier]

Does your source show Ruf being a free agent this offseason?

COTS does not show him under team control...

 

[tzill]

As the 2022 roster looks now...

C - Bart
C - Casali

1B - Wade
2B - La Stella
SS - Dubon
3B - Longoria
Util - Vosler
Util - Estrada

OF - Yastrzemski
OF - Dickerson
OF - Slater
OF - Duggar
OF - Tauchman

SP - Beede
SP - Long
SP - Webb
SP - Menez
SP -

RP - McGee
RP - Moronta
RP - Brebbia
RP - Garcia
RP - Rogers
RP - Selman
RP - Doval
RP - Baragar

i expect Posey and Craw to resign. I think there is a decent shot Gausman and Disco resign. We will also likely get AT LEAST 1 big name FA, probably 2.

Agreed on all points. My WAG on the 2022 Roster:

C - Buster, Bart
IF - Craw, Flores, La Stella, Dubon, Vosler, FA
OF - Dick, Slater, Yaz, Duggar, Wade
SP - Gas, Wood, Disco, Sanchy, Long
RP - McGee, Alvarez, Garcia, Brebbia, Moronta, Rogers, Baragar

AAA - Tok, Casali, Canario, Castro, Davis, Delaplane, Doval, Estrada, Littell, Beede, Menez, Nunez, Santos, Selman, Sherfly, Tromp, Vosler

I think all those guys will have options...

 

[tzill]

Does your source show Ruf being a free agent this offseason?

He was in his final arb year this year. He's a FA next.

 

[calsnowskier]

Agreed on all points. My WAG on the 2022 Roster:

C - Buster, Bart
IF - Craw, Flores, La Stella, Dubon, Vosler, FA
OF - Dick, Slater, Yaz, Duggar, Wade
SP - Gas, Wood, Disco, Sanchy, Long
RP - McGee, Alvarez, Garcia, Brebbia, Moronta, Rogers, Baragar

AAA - Tok, Casali, Canario, Castro, Davis, Delaplane, Doval, Estrada, Littell, Beede, Menez, Nunez, Santos, Selman, Sherfly, Tromp, Vosler

I think all those guys will have options...

I think the roster will be much more shaken up than that. Particularly the rotation.

I think we also need at least 1 new OFer, which might be Ramos.

I don’t expect Bart to be a backup, unless you see Bart and Posey doing some kind of C/1B platoon. If that is the case, I think Casali or Tromp will also be on the team.

I am not sure they bring Flores back. Unless they sign some other big names and want his flexibility at a discount price. I have just not been overly impressed by him. He plays a lot of positions, but he doesn’t play any of them particularly well. His bat is OK, but not enough to carry his glove.

You see a Longo trade? For what?

 

[tzill]

I think the roster will be much more shaken up than that. Particularly the rotation.

I think we also need at least 1 new OFer, which might be Ramos.

I don’t expect Bart to be a backup, unless you see Bart and Posey doing some kind of C/1B platoon. If that is the case, I think Casali or Tromp will also be on the team.

I am not sure they bring Flores back. Unless they sign some other big names and want his flexibility at a discount price. I have just not been overly impressed by him. He plays a lot of positions, but he doesn’t play any of them particularly well. His bat is OK, but not enough to carry his glove.

You see a Longo trade? For what?

RE - catcher: I think they really like this "no 3 days in a row" rule for Buster. I'd expect that to continue so his backup would see significant time behind the dish. The only question I have is -- in September if the race is tight and Buster's hitting .320 do they try to give him one start a week at 1b vs. a LHP? Long way of saying Bart would be in a good position to back Buster up in 22; and yes, I could see Bart getting some starts at 1b as well.
RE - Flores: He'd cost $3.5 to pick up the option. He's versatile and generally has good ABs. I could easily see FZ deciding that's good value.
RE - Longo: My bad. Sub him for Vosler, who goes to AAA

 

[calsnowskier]

RE - catcher: I think they really like this "no 3 days in a row" rule for Buster. I'd expect that to continue so his backup would see significant time behind the dish. The only question I have is -- in September if the race is tight and Buster's hitting .320 do they try to give him one start a week at 1b vs. a LHP? Long way of saying Bart would be in a good position to back Buster up in 22; and yes, I could see Bart getting some starts at 1b as well.
RE - Flores: He'd cost $3.5 to pick up the option. He's versatile and generally has good ABs. I could easily see FZ deciding that's good value.
RE - Longo: My bad. Sub him for Vosler, who goes to AAA

Good arguments. Flores is a “FZ guy”, so maybe he gets some roster love.

 

[calsnowskier]

It looks like we will need multiple SPs, RP, 1B, and OF. Below are the available players at those positions per MLBTR. I highlighted players the Giants may target.

1B
———
Brandon Belt (34)
Asdrubal Cabrera (36)
Matt Carpenter (36) — $18.5MM vesting option ($2MM buyout)
C.J. Cron (32)
Derek Dietrich (32)
Todd Frazier (36)
Freddie Freeman (32)
Marwin Gonzalez (33)
Yuli Gurriel (38) — $8MM club option ($500K buyout)
Mitch Moreland (36)
Anthony Rizzo (32)
Pablo Sandoval (35)
Danny Santana (31)
Ryan Zimmerman (37)


OF
———
Mark Canha (33)
Ian Desmond (36) — $15MM club option ($2MM buyout)
Corey Dickerson (33)
Brett Gardner (38)
Marwin Gonzalez (33)
Cameron Maybin (35)
Andrew McCutchen (35) — $15MM club option ($3M buyout)
Joc Pederson (30)
Tommy Pham (34)
Jurickson Profar (29) – can opt of remaining two years
Eddie Rosario (30)
Kyle Schwarber (29)
Chris Taylor (31)
Yoshitomo Tsutsugo (30)
Jackie Bradley Jr. (32) — player option
Delino DeShields (29)
Jarrod Dyson (37)
Leury Garcia (31)
Billy Hamilton (31)
Odubel Herrera (30) — $11.5MM club option ($2.5MM buyout)
Ender Inciarte (31) — $9MM club option ($1.025MM buyout)
Jake Marisnick (31)
Starling Marte (33)
Kevin Pillar (33)
Danny Santana (31)
Michael A. Taylor (31)
Charlie Blackmon (35) — $21MM player option; contract also contains $10MM player option for 2023
Kole Calhoun (34) — $9MM club option ($2MM buyout)
Nick Castellanos (30) — can opt out of remaining two years, $34MM on contract
Michael Conforto (29)
Adam Eaton (33) — $8.5MM club option
Dexter Fowler (36)
Avisail Garcia (31) — $12MM club option ($2MM buyout)
Jon Jay (37)
Adam Jones (36) — contract in Japan contains club option for 2022
Matt Joyce (37)
Gregory Polanco (30) — $12.5MM club option ($3.5MM buyout; contract also contains $13.5MM club option for 2023)
Jorge Soler (30)
Steven Souza Jr. (33)

(Pitchers in next post)

 

[calsnowskier]

SP
———
Brett Anderson (34)
Chase Anderson (34)
Tyler Anderson (32)
Chris Archer (33)
Jake Arrieta (36)
Trevor Bauer (31) – can opt out of remaining two years, $62MM
Dylan Bundy (29)
Trevor Cahill (33)
Tyler Chatwood (32)
Alex Cobb (34)
Johnny Cueto (36) — $22MM club option ($5MM buyout)
Zach Davies (29)
Anthony DeSclafani (32)
Danny Duffy (33)
Mike Fiers (37)
Kevin Gausman (31)
Jon Gray (30)
Zack Greinke (38)
J.A. Happ (39)
Matt Harvey (33)
Andrew Heaney (31)
Felix Hernandez (36)
Rich Hill (42)
Merrill Kelly (32) — $4.25MM club option ($500K buyout)
Clayton Kershaw (34)
Yusei Kikuchi (31) — Mariners can exercise four-year, $66MM extension; if not, Kikuchi has one-year, $13MM player option
Kwang-Hyun Kim (33)
Corey Kluber (36)
Wade LeBlanc (37)
Jon Lester (38)
Michael Lorenzen (30)
Jordan Lyles (31)
Lance Lynn (35)
Carlos Martinez (30) — $17MM club option ($500K buyout; contract also contains $18MM club option for 2023)
Steven Matz (31)
Wade Miley (35) — $10MM club option ($1MM buyout)
Tommy Milone (35)
Mike Montgomery (32)
Matt Moore (33)
Charlie Morton (38)
Daniel Norris (29)
Ivan Nova (35)
James Paxton (33)
Martin Perez (31)
Michael Pineda (33)
Jose Quintana (33)
Robbie Ray (30)
Garrett Richards (34) — $10MM club option
Tanner Roark (35)
Carlos Rodon (29)
Eduardo Rodriguez (29)
Tyson Ross (35)
Aaron Sanchez (29)
Max Scherzer (37)
Matt Shoemaker (35)
Drew Smyly (33)
Marcus Stroman (30)
Noah Syndergaard (29)
Julio Teheran (31)
Jose Urena (30)
Vince Velasquez (30)
Justin Verlander (39)
Michael Wacha (30)
Adam Wainwright (40)
Alex Wood (31)
Jordan Zimmermann (36)

RP (I am not going to pretend that I have any idea who they will target here)
———

Right-Handed Relievers

Matt Andriese (32)
Matt Barnes (32)
Cam Bedrosian (30)
Dellin Betances (34) — player option worth $1-3MM depending on number of games pitched in 2021
Brad Boxberger (34)
Brad Brach (36)
Archie Bradley (29)
Jesse Chavez (38)
Steve Cishek (36)
Tyler Clippard (37)
Alex Colome (33)
Wade Davis (36)
Chris Devenski (31)
Rafael Dolis (34)
Oliver Drake (35)
Jeurys Familia (32)
Yimi Garcia (31)
Mychal Givens (32)
Kendall Graveman (31)
Jesse Hahn (32)
Greg Holland (36)
Daniel Hudson (35)
Tommy Hunter (35)
Raisel Iglesias (32)
Kenley Jansen (34)
Jeremy Jeffress (34)
Pierce Johnson (31) — $3MM club option ($1MM buyout)
Nate Jones (36)
Keone Kela (29)
Joe Kelly (34) — $12MM club option ($4MM buyout)
Ian Kennedy (37)
Craig Kimbrel (34) — $16MM club option ($1MM buyout)
Brandon Kintzler (37)
Corey Knebel (29)
Michael Lorenzen (30)
Chris Martin (36)
Collin McHugh (35)
Mark Melancon (37)
Jimmy Nelson (33)
Hector Neris (33)
Darren O’Day (39)
Adam Ottavino (36)
Yusmeiro Petit (37)
David Phelps (35)
Erasmo Ramirez (32)
Hansel Robles (31)
Sergio Romo (39)
Trevor Rosenthal (32)
Joe Smith (38)
Joakim Soria (38)
Craig Stammen ($38) — $4MM club option ($1MM buyout)
Pedro Strop (37)
Ryan Tepera (34)
Josh Tomlin (37) — $1.25MM club option ($250K buyout)
Nick Vincent (35)
Dan Winkler (32)
Brandon Workman (33)
Kirby Yates (35)

Left-Handed Relievers

Jose Alvarez (33)
Luis Avilan (32)
Andrew Chafin (32)
Alex Claudio (30)
Ross Detwiler (36)
Jake Diekman (35) — $4MM club option ($750K buyout)
Sean Doolittle (35)
Brad Hand (32)
Derek Holland
Kwang-Hyun Kim (33)
Aaron Loup (34)
T.J. McFarland (33)
Andrew Miller (37)
Adam Morgan (32)
Daniel Norris (29)
Oliver Perez (40)
Brooks Raley (34)
Joely Rodriguez (30) — $3MM club option ($500K buyout)
Chasen Shreve (31)
Tony Watson (37)
Justin Wilson (34)

 

[LHG]

COTS does not show him under team control...

He was in his final arb year this year. He's a FA next.

Interesting. BBRef is way off on him.

 

[LHG]

It looks like we will need multiple SPs, RP, 1B, and OF. Below are the available players at those positions per MLBTR. I highlighted players the Giants may target.

1B
———
Brandon Belt (34)
Asdrubal Cabrera (36)
Matt Carpenter (36) — $18.5MM vesting option ($2MM buyout)
C.J. Cron (32)
Derek Dietrich (32)
Todd Frazier (36)
Freddie Freeman (32)
Marwin Gonzalez (33)
Yuli Gurriel (38) — $8MM club option ($500K buyout)
Mitch Moreland (36)
Anthony Rizzo (32)
Pablo Sandoval (35)
Danny Santana (31)
Ryan Zimmerman (37)


OF
———
Mark Canha (33)
Ian Desmond (36) — $15MM club option ($2MM buyout)
Corey Dickerson (33)
Brett Gardner (38)
Marwin Gonzalez (33)
Cameron Maybin (35)
Andrew McCutchen (35) — $15MM club option ($3M buyout)
Joc Pederson (30)
Tommy Pham (34)
Jurickson Profar (29) – can opt of remaining two years
Eddie Rosario (30)
Kyle Schwarber (29)
Chris Taylor (31)
Yoshitomo Tsutsugo (30)
Jackie Bradley Jr. (32) — player option
Delino DeShields (29)
Jarrod Dyson (37)
Leury Garcia (31)
Billy Hamilton (31)
Odubel Herrera (30) — $11.5MM club option ($2.5MM buyout)
Ender Inciarte (31) — $9MM club option ($1.025MM buyout)
Jake Marisnick (31)
Starling Marte (33)
Kevin Pillar (33)
Danny Santana (31)
Michael A. Taylor (31)
Charlie Blackmon (35) — $21MM player option; contract also contains $10MM player option for 2023
Kole Calhoun (34) — $9MM club option ($2MM buyout)
Nick Castellanos (30) — can opt out of remaining two years, $34MM on contract
Michael Conforto (29)
Adam Eaton (33) — $8.5MM club option
Dexter Fowler (36)
Avisail Garcia (31) — $12MM club option ($2MM buyout)
Jon Jay (37)
Adam Jones (36) — contract in Japan contains club option for 2022
Matt Joyce (37)
Gregory Polanco (30) — $12.5MM club option ($3.5MM buyout; contract also contains $13.5MM club option for 2023)
Jorge Soler (30)
Steven Souza Jr. (33)

(Pitchers in next post)

Some interesting names you highlighted there. You don't think Posey will slide over to 1st base, at least 3 days a week, next year? He cannot claim to a full time catcher anyway. Why not get more playing time?

Sandoval barely plays right now. I cannot see any team signing him to even platoon next year.

DeShields is still in the minor leagues, correct? There were rumors last month the Yankees wanted to acquire him for their injury plagued outfield but never did. And man! That's an old group of free agent outfielders.

 

[calsnowskier]

Interesting. BBRef is way off on him.

Just a guess, but they probably get their FA status from a calculation, and that calc may not count his time in Japan as service time.

To be fair, I am not certain how time in Japan counts towards FA status, though...

 

[calsnowskier]

Some interesting names you highlighted there. You don't think Posey will slide over to 1st base, at least 3 days a week, next year? He cannot claim to a full time catcher anyway. Why not get more playing time?

Sandoval barely plays right now. I cannot see any team signing him to even platoon next year.

DeShields is still in the minor leagues, correct? There were rumors last month the Yankees wanted to acquire him for their injury plagued outfield but never did. And man! That's an old group of free agent outfielders.

I was pretty liberal with my highlights. And I wasn’t necessarily highlighting players I thought they would target as a starter. And I agree that it would be surprising if they signed Sandoval. FZ doesn’t have a sentimental bone in his body.

I don’t know how they proceed with Posey. They need to sign him first, though, so assuming he will be on the roster is premature (though I do expect him to be around next year)

 

[msgkings322]

Some interesting names you highlighted there. You don't think Posey will slide over to 1st base, at least 3 days a week, next year? He cannot claim to a full time catcher anyway. Why not get more playing time?

Sandoval barely plays right now. I cannot see any team signing him to even platoon next year.

DeShields is still in the minor leagues, correct? There were rumors last month the Yankees wanted to acquire him for their injury plagued outfield but never did. And man! That's an old group of free agent outfielders.

God damn people want to shit on Posey even with the year he's having? Dude can catch 110-120 games next year. He can DH too in AL parks (and potentially NL ones if they make the change) and play some first.

I am 100% happy with whatever overpay is needed to keep him a Giant for life.

 

[calsnowskier]

God damn people want to shit on Posey even with the year he's having? Dude can catch 110-120 games next year. He can DH too in AL parks (and potentially NL ones if they make the change) and play some first.

I am 100% happy with whatever overpay is needed to keep him a Giant for life.

What shit was piled on Posey?