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[Screamin12th]

I posted the screen shots of the stats dummy.

I typed 10 instead of 7 for his 2019 league leading fumble rate (-) QBs. Yet I'm the homer and think players are HOFs because they play for my team.

I love you some of you delusional 12s.

Yeah I'm cool with my #1 RB leading the league in fumbles because ahhh... it was a bad year. But he was 5th in yards and that's real. Hell 3 fumbles a year are a lot for a RB. But hey he went over 1000k yards.

Go back to FFL. The adults are trying to talk Xs and Os here child.

you are no adult, just like you could never talk X and O. Go ahead and Bash Carson's 4.4 YPC average last year but lets not forget Michels BEST season was his first season and only one OVER 3.7 YPC lmao but then he dropped to 3.7 in 2019 and sits at 3.3 this year. Carson has not had a season under 4 where as Sonny Michel has. Also NE has a better oline than Carson has ever had.

Talk X and O's with me prove you are nothing more than a Bias homer that couldn't talk his way out of a paper bag with ZERO knowledge to anything outside the Patriots lmao. Now go get your bottle and blanket and take a nap.

PS try and keep the seething anger out of your posts it's just oozing all out of you. Kind of makes me feel bad he is so triggered, poor little guy.

( typing 10 and not 7 is NOT a typo it's impossible. If it was 6 or 8 yes but two numbers lmao nope )

 

[returnofjakedog]

Harry = Metcalf?? Hmmmmmm.......

All theoretical assumptions aside, if either team offered up a Harry for Metcalf trade the Patriots would do it in a heartbeat, while Seattle would outright reject it.

That should tell you all you need to know.

 

[NWPATSFAN]

you are no adult, just like you could never talk X and O. Go ahead and Bash Carson's 4.4 YPC average last year but lets not forget Michels BEST season was his first season and only one OVER 3.7 YPC lmao but then he dropped to 3.7 in 2019 and sits at 3.3 this year. Carson has not had a season under 4 where as Sonny Michel has. Also NE has a better oline than Carson has ever had.

Talk X and O's with me prove you are nothing more than a Bias homer that couldn't talk his way out of a paper bag with ZERO knowledge to anything outside the Patriots lmao. Now go get your bottle and blanket and take a nap.

PS try and keep the seething anger out of your posts it's just oozing all out of you. Kind of makes me feel bad he is so triggered, poor little guy.

( typing 10 and not 7 is NOT a typo it's impossible. If it was 6 or 8 yes but two numbers lmao nope )

Again child, I have nothing to be angry about. My life is good and is completed by watching 12s get rustled so easily. Why are you and so many so salty? If anyone mention anything slightly negative, you and others see only red and then spew your biased opinions.

I didn't say it was a typo, moron. I said I typed it. Why would I knowingly type something inaccurate, after I already posted the stats for everyone to see? Your 11th grade education is shinning through in this post.

You continue to talk stats while claiming you can discuss Xs and Os. This was the funniest post I've seen today.

So take off the blinders sweet pea and go back and read the thread. I'm not the one that started comparing one back to another. My point is and has been the RB by committee that NE historically has had is better than most if not all when looking at it collectively.

So keep pounding your chest about a RB who had the 5th most yards. The kids in school must really envy your FFL prowess.

I'll take 20 years of Sony Michel type numbers, on a RB by committee backfield over a 5th place rushing average champion any day.

Oh, and if you really feel the need to compare these two RBs so you'll feel better about your miserable life. Sony has had 3 fumbles his entire career. But hey he hasn't eclipsed a 1000 yards yet, only 900 and some change. Oh and one shinny SB ring.

 

[Screamin12th]

Again child, I have nothing to be angry about. My life is good and is completed by watching 12s get rustled so easily. Why are you and so many so salty? If anyone mention anything slightly negative, you and others see only red and then spew your biased opinions.

I didn't say it was a typo, moron. I said I typed it. Why would I knowingly type something inaccurate, after I already posted the stats for everyone to see? Your 11th grade education is shinning through in this post.

You continue to talk stats while claiming you can discuss Xs and Os. This was the funniest post I've seen today.

So take off the blinders sweet pea and go back and read the thread. I'm not the one that started comparing one back to another. My point is and has been the RB by committee that NE historically has had is better than most if not all when looking at it collectively.

So keep pounding your chest about a RB who had the 5th most yards. The kids in school must really envy your FFL prowess.

I'll take 20 years of Sony Michel type numbers, on a RB by committee backfield over a 5th place rushing average champion any day.

Oh, and if you really feel the need to compare these two RBs so you'll feel better about your miserable life. Sony has had 3 fumbles his entire career. But hey he hasn't eclipsed a 1000 yards yet, only 900 and some change. Oh and one shinny SB ring.

Oline > NE
QB > Sea
RBs > NE
TE (singular) > Sea

WRs this is a toss up but I give NE the edge.

Metcalf = Harry
Edelman > than anyone on Sea

LMAO keep spitting, you keep throwing out shit then stepping right into it. This hole of yours is getting DEEPER and DEEPER. I am not salty i am a realist you know what that is? ok i forgot who i was talking to so i will tell you.

Noun. realist (plural realists) (philosophy) An advocate of realism; one who believes that matter, objects etc. have real existence beyond our perception of them. One who believes in seeing things the way they really are, as opposed to how they would like them to be.

It's ok to be excited about your team but you have to keep it real or just look like a fool, and, well you went into fantasy land.

I mean it's right there in your post Harry is = to Metcalf LMAO you are thick? and not in a good way haha.
RB you gave to NE and yet have nothing to back it up but opinions and when talking X and O's you have to keep your Opinions neutral or you come out sounding like a bias homer. It's that simple if you base something of "YOUR" opinion even though the facts go against you then get all pissy about it you look like a moron. Your Patriot brothers left you here by yourself and are not defending you because you dug a bias hole and jumped head first into it. Now you are shoveling dirt on top of yourself.

My 21 year old Daughter knows more about football than you do and she hates football. But that's ok because this should make you smile, she thinks Brady is hot just like you. So you two got something in common...
you keep saying you are leaving and keep coming back, guess i am under your thin skin. Meh not a big deal i like to talk football even to sore losers and salty homers. But lets keep it real not some fantasy island bullshit you are trying to turn it into.

 

[NWPATSFAN]

LMAO keep spitting, you keep throwing out shit then stepping right into it. This hole of yours is getting DEEPER and DEEPER. I am not salty i am a realist you know what that is? ok i forgot who i was talking to so i will tell you.

Noun. realist (plural realists) (philosophy) An advocate of realism; one who believes that matter, objects etc. have real existence beyond our perception of them. One who believes in seeing things the way they really are, as opposed to how they would like them to be.

It's ok to be excited about your team but you have to keep it real or just look like a fool, and, well you went into fantasy land.

I mean it's right there in your post Harry is = to Metcalf LMAO you are thick? and not in a good way haha.
RB you gave to NE and yet have nothing to back it up but opinions and when talking X and O's you have to keep your Opinions neutral or you come out sounding like a bias homer. It's that simple if you base something of "YOUR" opinion even though the facts go against you then get all pissy about it you look like a moron. Your Patriot brothers left you here by yourself and are not defending you because you dug a bias hole and jumped head first into it. Now you are shoveling dirt on top of yourself.

My 21 year old Daughter knows more about football than you do and she hates football. But that's ok because this should make you smile, she thinks Brady is hot just like you. So you two got something in common...
you keep saying you are leaving and keep coming back, guess i am under your thin skin. Meh not a big deal i like to talk football even to sore losers and salty homers. But lets keep it real not some fantasy island bullshit you are trying to turn it into.

OK now we must just be trying to screw with me. Is this one of those games shows? Where did you hide the camera?

Context
NOUN

1. the circumstances that form the setting for an event, statement, or idea, and in terms of which it can be fully understood and assessed.
   "the decision was taken within the context of planned cuts in spending"

2. The parts of something written or spoken that immediately precede and follow a word or passage and clarify its meaning.

They really should clear up this definition to say except for ultimate homers.

Does your daughter help you with your fantasy draft? Your limited knowledge of Xs and Os continue to shine as your only argument is about yards, and how apropos for you to use the word fantasy in your last statement. It's comical and sad at that same time, that you continue to argue because Carson has more yards than one of the NE RBs he's better.

May I suggest some reading for you? Actually with the way you've continually and unwillingly chose not to comprehend what's been written here, maybe you should have your daughter read it for you? Just a friendly suggestion.



Keep getting rustled and posting none sense. I have a huge appetite for watching you spin.

 

[Screamin12th]

Your limited knowledge of Xs and Os continue to shine as your only argument is about yards, and how apropos for you to use the word fantasy in your last statement. It's comical and sad at that same time, that you continue to argue because Carson has more yards than one of the NE RBs he's better.



Keep getting rustled and posting none sense. I have a huge appetite for watching you spin.

LMAO wow you truly are a piece of work, I love how you say my limited knowledge but you think Harry and Michel are Better than DK Metcalf! and Carson and that isn't based on stats or production. The only one spinning is you my very limited mentally challenged friend. Go talk more about how the Pats should have played more Man to Man against the Hawks yet it was the Man to Man defense that allowed Metcalf to ABUSE Stephon Gilmore and Wilson to run free for first downs. That shows you that you know VERY little about football. Matter of fact you all got the INT on a zone coverage where the defense is always looking back at the QB ( which you need to do against Wilson )

Show us before you try and spin it again how Harry is better than Metcalf PLEASE everyone is waiting and while you are at it Show us how Michel is better than Carson. Before you even try to respond to try and fail trash talk me show us some proof or facts that back up your statements that Harry is as good or better than Metcalf and How Michel is better than Carson. We all will be waiting. Remember opinions especial from a very special type person you do not count. Show us the facts.

You like to sound all big and tough but again all you are talking is about how your opinion is valid and everyone else's Facts are not lol. You got a big ego don't you? we call that the small dog complex. wow you really need a burn unit after all my posts. I'll give it to you, you are persistent but not consistent. You have either borderline personality disorder or are a narcissist, or both. Look it up because even though i went to 4 years of psychology i am not your father and i do not need to hold your hand and explain EVERYTHING to you. Even though i would like to help you out i can not if you don't want to help yourself.

Answer my bolded statement before even commenting because thats what this whole back and forth is about and i am sure everyone with their popcorn laughing at you would LOVE to see how you "spin" that one again.

 

[NWPATSFAN]

LMAO wow you truly are a piece of work, I love how you say my limited knowledge but you think Harry and Michel are Better than DK Metcalf! and Carson and that isn't based on stats or production. The only one spinning is you my very limited mentally challenged friend. Go talk more about how the Pats should have played more Man to Man against the Hawks yet it was the Man to Man defense that allowed Metcalf to ABUSE Stephon Gilmore and Wilson to run free for first downs. That shows you that you know VERY little about football. Matter of fact you all got the INT on a zone coverage where the defense is always looking back at the QB ( which you need to do against Wilson )

Show us before you try and spin it again how Harry is better than Metcalf PLEASE everyone is waiting and while you are at it Show us how Michel is better than Carson. Before you even try to respond to try and fail trash talk me show us some proof or facts that back up your statements that Harry is as good or better than Metcalf and How Michel is better than Carson. We all will be waiting. Remember opinions especial from a very special type person you do not count. Show us the facts.

You like to sound all big and tough but again all you are talking is about how your opinion is valid and everyone else's Facts are not lol. You got a big ego don't you? we call that the small dog complex. wow you really need a burn unit after all my posts. I'll give it to you, you are persistent but not consistent. You have either borderline personality disorder or are a narcissist, or both. Look it up because even though i went to 4 years of psychology i am not your father and i do not need to hold your hand and explain EVERYTHING to you. Even though i would like to help you out i can not if you don't want to help yourself.

Answer my bolded statement before even commenting because thats what this whole back and forth is about and i am sure everyone with their popcorn laughing at you would LOVE to see how you "spin" that one again.

Sorry there aren't enough days left in my life to teach you reading comprehension. Not sure why you continue this charade that I somehow said that Harry or Sony are BETTER than anyone.

Your ONE and ONLY stat is that Carson has more yards. Try something new. You obviously don't understand football. I've posted stats, you've chose to ignore. I can't help that. Or Metcalf has posted more numbers.

Did they teach grammar? "Look it up because even though i went to 4 years of psychology"

Don't worry Mary Ainsworth you're still one of the cutest posters here when your jimmies are rustled.

In before your next post:

Screaming 12th: blah blah blah Carson has more yards blah blah blah. I've proven my point blah blah blah.

BTW how's your fantasy team doing?

 

[Tapey]

Sorry there aren't enough days left in my life to teach you reading comprehension. Not sure why you continue this charade that I somehow said that Harry or Sony are BETTER than anyone.

Your ONE and ONLY stat is that Carson has more yards. Try something new. You obviously don't understand football. I've posted stats, you've chose to ignore. I can't help that. Or Metcalf has posted more numbers.

Did they teach grammar? "Look it up because even though i went to 4 years of psychology"

Don't worry Mary Ainsworth you're still one of the cutest posters here when your jimmies are rustled.

In before your next post:

Screaming 12th: blah blah blah Carson has more yards blah blah blah. I've proven my point blah blah blah.

BTW how's your fantasy team doing?

Sony does fumble less than Carson I’ll give him that.

 

[Screamin12th]

Sorry there aren't enough days left in my life to teach you reading comprehension. Not sure why you continue this charade that I somehow said that Harry or Sony are BETTER than anyone.

Your ONE and ONLY stat is that Carson has more yards. Try something new. You obviously don't understand football. I've posted stats, you've chose to ignore. I can't help that. Or Metcalf has posted more numbers.

Did they teach grammar? "Look it up because even though i went to 4 years of psychology"

Don't worry Mary Ainsworth you're still one of the cutest posters here when your jimmies are rustled.

In before your next post:

Screaming 12th: blah blah blah Carson has more yards blah blah blah. I've proven my point blah blah blah.

BTW how's your fantasy team doing?

Wow a complete empty post with no facts to back anything up again lol figures. Well I am not shocked at all. You still have completely ignored the question about providing Proof that your opinion is right that Harry is equal or better than Metcalf and that Michel is better than Carson. It's that simple provide proof because you said "stats don't show the whole picture" then you Cherry picked Metcalf's first 7 games to compare to Harry's first 7 then LIED ( lmao he lied about it ) to make Harry sound Better. You are so mad it's laughable all you have to do is show something that proves your fact that Michel is better than Carson and that Harry is as good or better than Metcalf yet you continue to run around like a chicken with it's head cut off avoiding your chance and not taking your opportunity to make a point. Ok let me flip this on you then you took Metcalfs first what 8 games to compare Harry's first 8 right and here is what you said. Oh i am sorry you even cut off Harry's last game and went to 7 not 8 oops my bad ( goal post moving champion )

Don't let your homerism cloud your vision. Metcalf has played 17 games to Harry's 8. Through their first 7 games Metcalf had two more catches. Both had two TDs. They are virtually one in the same.
Time for new homer glasses I said Sea had the better TE.

So regardless of them being virtually the same thru their first 7-8 games that doesn't matter?

for the record for those keep track of NWPATFAN's fails and goal post moving he likes to Cherry pick stats so let's return the favor, Harry has 9 games played so let's take a look at both players first 9 games, Metcalf and Harry.

player A: first 9 games 525 yards 5 TD's
player B: first 9 games 216 yard 2 TD's

one player is more than twice the 2nd and it's not even close but that player is Harry in NWPATSFAN's world lol. It's not Player A is Metcalf.
Ok lets continue on with His Cherry picking style let's look at Carson and Michel and let's break it down by equal carries and well look at that Carson's 2018 season he had 247 carries and Michels 2019 season he had 247 ok thats simple enough this is easy.

Carson 1,151 yards rushing, 4.7 ypc avg, 9TD's 3Fum, long 61, FD 61, [*20 Rec 162 yards 8.1 avg ( 2nd lowest career avg )*]
Michel 921 yards rushing 3.7 YPC avg, 7TD's 2Fum, long 26, FD 55, [*12 Rec 94 yards 7.8 avg ( career high avg)*]

You like to say Michel doesn't get the touches but 247 is #1 touches and 3.7 YPC avg is below average. This cherry picking is pretty handy i see why you do it. Oh well i once again leave the stage open for you to prove your points that you have yet to do in ANY post. Opinions are not facts and prove nothing so here we are back where we started and nothing has changed because you have nothing. Carson is still >Michel and Metcalf is still >>>>>Harry. Bring something to the table this is getting old Bring something to back your beliefs you are like a flat earther, if it doesn't line up with your point of view then it's not real lol.

PS i do not play FF sorry to burst your bubble, so sad. I am sure you want to tell us all about your 10-20 year undefeated streak though, with zero proof. lol

You got Nothing.
YAWN! you are simple.

 

[Screamin12th]

Sony does fumble less than Carson I’ll give him that.

that's all he has and keeps bring it up but ignoring the facts. He needs to just admit that in HIS opinion Harry and Michel are better, his opinion is unfounded but he can have his homer opinion and that with a dollar will buy him a 98 cent cheeseburger. He will then give the cashier his 2 cents on why his Cheeseburger is the best one because it's his lol.

 

[NWPATSFAN]

Sony does fumble less than Carson I’ll give him that.

You are quite the gentleman. Carson has gained more yards than Sony for what that's worth? I'll give you that.

 

[NWPATSFAN]

that's all he has and keeps bring it up but ignoring the facts. He needs to just admit that in HIS opinion Harry and Michel are better, his opinion is unfounded but he can have his homer opinion and that with a dollar will buy him a 98 cent cheeseburger. He will then give the cashier his 2 cents on why his Cheeseburger is the best one because it's his lol.

What is it with reading comprehension and you 12s? Where did I say either one is better than the other? Last I check this (=) means equal to? Maybe not in that new math??? Did they also come up new English? Or does adding and (s) to a noun make it plural in most cases?

The only player I said was Edelman which is a fact especially if we want to use longevity stats. Or do those not count in this argument?

Why you 12s feel the need to defend the 5th leading rusher is a mystery.

Here are the undisputable FACTS. Here's the problem with facts. You won't like them. So do you want to use facts or stats?

Carson's best year for yards he had 300 more than Sony's best year.
Carson has fumbled 3x more than Sony.
Both had 7 TDs in their best season.
Sony was part of a SB winning team.
Sony has 6 TDs in the playoffs. Carson has ummmmm yeah we just won't talk about that.

 

[Tapey]

You are quite the gentleman. Carson has gained more yards than Sony for what that's worth? I'll give you that.

That’s only because the Seahawks run it an embarrassing amount, considering who their QB is

 

[NWPATSFAN]

That’s only because the Seahawks run it an embarrassing amount, considering who their QB is

Has RW been gifting Carson some of his yards? Got to love that cooking.

 

[Tapey]

Has RW been gifting Carson some of his yards? Got to love that cooking.

Not RW, but Pete Carroll has been gifting Carson RWs yards for a few years meow

 

[NWPATSFAN]

Not RW, but Pete Carroll has been gifting Carson RWs yards for a few years meow

Such a super nice guy

 

[Screamin12th]

What is it with reading comprehension and you 12s? Where did I say either one is better than the other? Last I check this (=) means equal to? Maybe not in that new math??? Did they also come up new English? Or does adding and (s) to a noun make it plural in most cases?

The only player I said was Edelman which is a fact especially if we want to use longevity stats. Or do those not count in this argument?

Why you 12s feel the need to defend the 5th leading rusher is a mystery.

Here are the undisputable FACTS. Here's the problem with facts. You won't like them. So do you want to use facts or stats?

Carson's best year for yards he had 300 more than Sony's best year.
Carson has fumbled 3x more than Sony.
Both had 7 TDs in their best season.
Sony was part of a SB winning team.
Sony has 6 TDs in the playoffs. Carson has ummmmm yeah we just won't talk about that.

Love how it has turn so personal for you and you can't stay on topic without your attacks ( Childish moves )but you forgot some things and twisted other to make them sound grandiose. Typical move as you have been doing throughout this whole thread. 3 to 10 yes thats is 3X more but those are small numbers when you take in the number of games each has played and touches. 670 touches for Carson with 10 total fumbles going into his fourth season. Also NO ONE not a single person said Carson did not have a bad year with ball security last season but it was a aberration remove 2019's fumbles and he has 3 total in 2017, 2018 and the start of 2020 so 2 years and 2 games ( Wow same total as Sony )

He had an issue fumbling for the first time in his NFL career and that big reason why was because he would not switch the ball into the off hand. This is a bad technique that his college coach didn't teach out of him and something many of us Hawks fans complained about. Carson started moving the ball into his off hand more often ( after game 4 2019 ) and this slowed down the fumbles but he got complacent and it happened again( still 2019 ). He seems to have broken that bad habit after teams really targeted him in year 3. Even though Carson has a full year on Michel the touches are only 178 apart and Michel will get those most likely this year but of course Carson will always be ahead because he has a year on him.

Carson's Best year Yardage wise was last year 2019 with 1,230 yards and Sony's was 931, 3 years ago. One is going up the other is going down.

you said "Both had 7 TDs in their best season." LIE! why do you do this to yourself? ok so maybe you mean best TD season not yardage here but forgot to say you were switching seasons for Michel but not Carson? If you are going to flip years to Michels best Rushing TD year even though it's not his best Rushing year yardage wise then you have to do the same for Carson or are you going to continue to spit fake stats to try and make the numbers look better? You have continued to do this shit in this entire thread.

Michels best year for Yardage he had 931 with only 6TD his 7 TD came in year 2 when he had which as far as TD's go was his best year but not for rushing Yards. Carsons best year as far as Rushing TD go, was 9 but he has finished both 2018 and 2019 with 9 total TD's ( you are forgetting rec TD's oopsy )

Playoff TD really? Carson has played in 1 playoff game to Sony's 4! so yeah you LOVE to cherry pick and flip stat and compare uneven/unbalance stats if they favor you but OH NO don't let anyone else do that against you lol.

Sony has enjoyed also playing in one of the weakest division in the NFL, this is not opinion this is fact. I mean playing the Jets, Dolphins and Buffalo every year, must be brutal but for the first time in what? 20 years it looks like there might be a good team in the AFC east other than the Patriots.

Just admit you are a bias homer and all your lying can stop. There is nothing wrong with being a homer until you start spitting lies and twisting real stats to make yourself look .. uhm better?

Like i said admit you are a bias homer and stats and facts mean nothing to you as you continue to abuse them anyway and this all goes away. Hell i am a Die hard Seahawks fan and have been since 1976! Damn straight i will defend my team i just wont lie about shit to make my team look better.

WAIT...... Patriot fan, Cheating? ok never mind your points are now invalid no matter what you say.

 

[Screamin12th]

after all that i think NWPATSFAN earned an ignore. I hate trying to talk football with someone that lies thinking we can't find the real numbers for ourselves. The only type of person that would do this is a child not realising that EVERYONE has the power of the internet. Enjoy reading his rants everyone and the cringe fest he turned it into. One minute you have to pick stats to make a comparison that are fair and even, the next it's all about flipping one season for another when trying to talk about "best season" but not doing so for BOTH players only for the one he wants to make look better. lol whats funny is the fact that Seattle has not had a top 20 Oline since what 2007 and NE has had a pretty good oline for the past 5+ years. As a Seahawks fan i am Jealous of any team with a top 15 Oline. Not even top 10 i just want to be average. We might have a average line this season ... maybe.

 

[returnofjakedog]

Sadly for NWPF every single WR rating out there has Metcalf listed well ahead of Harry at this point. One of the consensus rankings of different "experts" listed Metcalf at #21 (1 spot behind Lockett) and Harry at #59. So the general perception clearly shows that Metcalf > Harry at this point in their careers.

 

[flyerhawk]

Don't let your homerism cloud your vision. Metcalf has played 17 games to Harry's 8. Through their first 7 games Metcalf had two more catches. Both had two TDs. They are virtually one in the same.
Time for new homer glasses I said Sea had the better TE.

Wow. This is remarkably dishonest even for you.

Are you seriously suggesting that Harry and Metcalf have had comparable careers? Harry has 216 yards TOTAL. Metcalf had that in his 3rd game.