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Let's do this. Dak or Wentz as your QB moving forward

Dak or Wentz?


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jerseyhawksfan79

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You out too much stock in the combine. The tape doesn't lie when you watch Reagor in games in pads he is fast and when he hits his top speed no one catches him from behind.

A study from CBS Sports, citing data from a company called Slants, tracked game speed vs. timed speed for receivers in the 2020 draft class. Of the players in the study, Reagor at TCU had the second-fastest game speed as a ball-carrier behind only Ruggs.

Ruggs reached 21.94 mph and Reagor was second at 20.80 mph.

Here's red flags is why lots of fans didn't like the pick.

Reagor had a 47% catch rate which ranked third worst in the entire FBS. He had a drop rate of over 16% which was worst in his class. He has speed but his numbers aren't great.
 

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Jeffery is likely never going to play another snap for the Eagles. The WRs can't be worse than last year for the Eagles. If a team is going to stick their best corner on Reagor then so be it. That leaves better receiving options in Ertz, Goedert and Ward working with lesser cover guys.
Wait, a few days back Wentz was so awesome according to Eagles fans because he was throwing to guys off the street. Now with the "incredible talent and depth added at WR this year" Ward is still playing a major role? You can't have it both ways.
 

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Wait, a few days back Wentz was so awesome according to Eagles fans because he was throwing to guys off the street. Now with the "incredible talent and depth added at WR this year" Ward is still playing a major role? You can't have it both ways.

If Greg Ward is playing a major roll, the Eagles WRs flat out suck.
 

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RTK chirps a LOT but seems to disappear regularly after an Eagles loss.

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I absolutely do not. I am not a fan of the combine at all. Are you so biased that you actually disagree with what I said?

"A WR who is supposedly a speed guy and who thinks that his ticket to the NFL is indeed that speed and who runs a 4.47 and 4.50 in the 40 at the Combine is at least a slight concern"

Also did you know Agholar ran 21.11 last year? Top end speed is very misleading because what matters is often how long it takes you to get there and if you can do it in traffic and it also is very difficult to accurately calculate. What is more important to me about game day speed is I don't care what a guy does in shorts and a T-Shirt. I want to see what he does in pads


And Reagor does it in pads. I don't care about his 40 time at the combine because as you said it is another thing to do it on the field and do it in the midst of bodies coming at you. The only thing from the combine that I take from Reagor is just how amazing hers vertical jump is and that is something you also see on the tape.


That is why I draw the comparison to Steve Smith. It is very reminiscent of Smith for a shorter WR like that to be able to go up in the air and pull down catches like Smith made a career of doing and Reagor has done in college.
 

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Wait, a few days back Wentz was so awesome according to Eagles fans because he was throwing to guys off the street. Now with the "incredible talent and depth added at WR this year" Ward is still playing a major role? You can't have it both ways.

I don't even think Ward is guaranteed to make the roster. He's probably WR 4/5 next year if he makes it.
 

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Here's red flags is why lots of fans didn't like the pick.

Reagor had a 47% catch rate which ranked third worst in the entire FBS. He had a drop rate of over 16% which was worst in his class. He has speed but his numbers aren't great.


Having watched a lot of videos of l of his targets in specific games the QB play was abysmal.
 

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Wait, a few days back Wentz was so awesome according to Eagles fans because he was throwing to guys off the street. Now with the "incredible talent and depth added at WR this year" Ward is still playing a major role? You can't have it both ways.

Ward is legit. I fully expect him to be the starting slot WR. Only 24 years old and a good athlete, has already earned Wentz's trust and came up with some big clutch catches last year.

Of the carousel of WRs they brought in and threw on the field last year Ward is going to be the only one that sticks. Easily the best WR on the roster last season not named DeSean Jackson.
 

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So Wentz has no weapons last year, but Ward is legit? I don’t think that’s how that works
 

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So Wentz has no weapons last year, but Ward is legit? I don’t think that’s how that works

Does he realize that with all these “great” players the eagles have drafted and have on their roster that he’s gonna have a hard time finding excuses when Wentz shits the bed again?
 

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Does he realize that with all these “great” players the eagles have drafted and have on their roster that he’s gonna have a hard time finding excuses when Wentz shits the bed again?
Nah there will still be an excuse I’m sure.
 

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Nah there will still be an excuse I’m sure.

You’re right... I’m betting it’s that the receivers sucked!

The boy has no shame.

haha
 

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You’re right... I’m betting it’s that the receivers sucked!

The boy has no shame.

haha
My thought process is the Seahawks also were devastated by injuries they even had to start bringing RBs in off the streets. But is anyone making excuses for Russell Wilson? Not that I’ve see .
 

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You got one Eagle fan saying Ward is best a 4 or 5 and might not make the team then you have Super Homer RTK saying Ward is Legit. Of course this is after saying the Eagles had no WR's last season.

I bet dinner with a bunch of Eagles fans has be to entertaining.
 

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So Wentz has no weapons last year, but Ward is legit? I don’t think that’s how that works

He's WR 4/5 if he makes the team this season. If he makes the team my guess he finishes 7th on the team in catches.
 

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He's WR 4/5 if he makes the team this season. If he makes the team my guess he finishes 7th on the team in catches.
See that I can agree with, clearly my rant was directed at you lol.
 

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See that I can agree with, clearly my rant was directed at you lol.
I’m sorry the 2nd part to that looks super condescending and it wasn’t meant to be
 

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You got one Eagle fan saying Ward is best a 4 or 5 and might not make the team then you have Super Homer RTK saying Ward is Legit. Of course this is after saying the Eagles had no WR's last season.

I bet dinner with a bunch of Eagles fans has be to entertaining.

If Jeffrey is able to play/he's kept, he's not on the roster is my guess. Maybe he'll surprise me and be able to stick. He's just extremely limited.
 

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See that I can agree with, clearly my rant was directed at you lol.

I'm not sure why he's thinking that? I don't think he's all that good to begin with. Is he a good #4/5 yeah I guess so. I'll try the upside with Hightower over him.
 
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