msgkings322
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Yeah, I mean all three of those guys are well past their days of being good. I honestly don't have a good opinion on who is better at this moment.Fair enough. I was just curious opinions vary greatly on Ben.
Yeah, I mean all three of those guys are well past their days of being good. I honestly don't have a good opinion on who is better at this moment.Fair enough. I was just curious opinions vary greatly on Ben.
Yeah, that's fair enough. Who do you have in their prime? What's tour 1-2-3?Yeah, I mean all three of those guys are well past their days of being good. I honestly don't have a good opinion on who is better at this moment.
Mahomes, Jackson, Wilson are probably playing the best at the position right now.Yeah, that's fair enough. Who do you have in their prime? What's tour 1-2-3?
Nooo with Ben, rivers , Eli in their primes.Mahomes, Jackson, Wilson are probably playing the best at the position right now.
Nooo with Ben, rivers , Eli in their primes.
fwiw right now I have
mahomes - class of his own
Brees , Watson, Jackson
Wilson just slightly behind and sitting by himself, then a handful of others.
just my opinion though
I'm not sure where I'd put jimmy to be honest I have an incomplete for him. Wilson is an enigma to me. His stats are great. But what team has a franchise qb and insists on focusing solely on a running game? Why does he always have just amazing runs followed by mediocrity. Like his second half this season. I've read some advanced analytics that Russ doesn't see things as good as you think. But I've seen other stuff that has him ot if this word. I guess I just personally am not as high on him as others. He's still way up there for me.Where's Garoppolo? This is a travesty.
Mahomes, Wilson, and Jackson top 3 for me. I just think those guys can do more than everyone else.
Regarding Ben, Rivers, and Eli, I would go in that same order as far as who's better. Rivers doesn't have the two Super Bowls, but so much about getting to and winning a Super Bowl is affected by luck and the play of your teammates, so I do think that people weigh Super Bowl wins too heavily in comparing one QB to another.
It's just the way it is, but it shouldn't be that way. Dan Marino has no Super Bowl wins and only one appearance, but we still know that he is great and that he is better than most QB's who won a Super Bowl. I think that Tony Romo is vastly underrated.
Oh I see. In their primes I'd probably say Ben, then Rivers, then Eli. Ben clearly above, the other two not too different. But it's pretty subjectiveNooo with Ben, rivers , Eli in their primes.
fwiw right now I have
mahomes - class of his own
Brees , Watson, Jackson
Wilson just slightly behind and sitting by himself, then a handful of others.
just my opinion though
Agree.Oh I see. In their primes I'd probably say Ben, then Rivers, then Eli. Ben clearly above, the other two not too different. But it's pretty subjective
Not so sure about that 23 tds/20 int this year
Nope. If Eli had pulled off a SB miracle just once, I would agree with you. But he did it twice. That has to count for something. Ben, Eli, Phillip.I think its pretty clearly Ben > Rivers > Eli
Ben is a Hall of Famer. Rivers is a Hall of Very Good. Eli Manning is the NFC Joe Flacco.
Eli gets "hate" because a lot of people like to pump him up as great, but he isn't. He wasn't just inaccurate and turnover prone late in his career.easy order is
1. Big Ben
2. Eli
3. Rivers
With that said though I do find it funny the hate ELI gets... saying that he didn't have great SB games... But Neither did Big Ben...
In fact Eli has better per game playoff numbers than Big ben... Sure ben played 9 more games... But again, it is not like he was great...
SB numbers
record, yards(per game), TD, INT
Ben- 2-1, 642(214), 3,5
ELI- 2-0, 551(275), 3,1
Also, Big Ben had the much better scenario in his career... He had only one coach, and basically no drama that he didn't make himself...
Eli, had multiple coaches, worse overall team,
also, Eli was known for 4th quarter come backs and clutch play for most of his career... I think we get blinded by his prolonged suckiness the past few years...
Eli gets "hate" because a lot of people like to pump him up as great, but he isn't. He wasn't just inaccurate and turnover prone late in his career.