POLL Is Aaron Rodgers a TOP 20 quarterback all-time?

[kburjr]

Dammit, Luck never played in a Super Bowl

It was Plunkett

 

[msgkings322]

Stanford?

Elway, Kapp and Luck?

Luck never started in a Super Bowl, and Kapp went to Cal (one of the 5 from there)

Stanford has Plunkett and Elway

Want me to reveal it?

 

[Pure Steel]

Name two people shot in the head in a theatre?

 

[kburjr]

Speaking of N.D. players did you know Paul Hornung won the '56 Heisman for leading the Irish to an incredible 2-8 record?

As the QB. Winning counts

 

[kburjr]

Luck never started in a Super Bowl, and Kapp went to Cal (one of the 5 from there)

Stanford has Plunkett and Elway

Want me to reveal it?

Nah. Let it play out.

 

[kburjr]

I'll go with Purue.

Dawson, Griese, and Brees

 

[msgkings322]

I'll go with Purue.

Dawson, Griese, and Brees

 

[msgkings322]

Name two people shot in the head in a theatre?

Honest Abe and some diplomat in a Mission Impossible sequel.

 

[Pure Steel]

Honest Abe and some diplomat in a Mission Impossible sequel.

Lincoln and guy sitting in front of Pee Wee Herman.....

 

[ATL96Steeler]

I'll just use your list and switch Rodgers and Elway. I might put Aikman in tier one as well. His numbers would be a lot sexier if they didn't hand it to Emmitt as many times as it took to score in the red zone.

Elway has arguably the two worst Super Bowl performances all time and he only won because he had TD. IMO he is the most overrated QB of all time.

Elway and Aikman should be Tier 2 imo….Rodgers...imo not a whole lot more than Ben career wise...2nd Tier as well.

As mentioned, when DEN got TD and he went off on a 3 year tear of being the best RB in the league...they won two titles....absent of that IDT Elway is wearing SBs rings today. Aikman eventually did pull out from under Emmit Smith's shadow in DAL, but his run of being the catalyst of the OFC wasn't that long.

 

[kburjr]

Lincoln and guy sitting in front of Pee Wee Herman.....

laugh and groan

 

[msgkings322]

Lincoln and guy sitting in front of Pee Wee Herman.....

350 × 241

 

[richig07]

I've never seen a clear-cut HOF QB take so much heat for losing an NFC Title game after a 13 win season at age 36 when he is clearly on the downslope of his career.

A lot of victory laps being taken and I don't think that they're anywhere near warranted. Especially when he didn't even play that poorly and damn near rallied the team back into the thick of the game.

 

[msgkings322]

I've never seen a clear-cut HOF QB take so much heat for losing an NFC Title game after a 13 win season at age 36 when he is clearly on the downslope of his career.

A lot of victory laps being taken and I don't think that they're anywhere near warranted. Especially when he didn't even play that poorly and damn near rallied the team back into the thick of the game.

Meh, he's just one of those QBs people love to hate on (like Brady, Wentz, etc). Anyone with a brain knows he's great and played well last night.

 

[msgkings322]

Yes... Based on intangibles alone he's easily still one of the most talented QBs to ever play the game. But if we're basing this on accolades then he might slip to the bottom of the top 20. His stats are still great.

Tier 1
Brady
Montana
Manning
Brees
Unitas
Marino
Staubach
Favre
Young
Elway

Tier 2
Bradshaw
Rodgers
Starr
Aikman
Graham
Warner
Kelly
Tarkenton
Roethlisberger
Wilson

Just thinking about some names that maybe deserve to be in tier 2: Warren Moon, Dan Fouts

But who to remove?

 

[Wazmankg]

easily

 

[Wamu]

Just thinking about some names that maybe deserve to be in tier 2: Warren Moon, Dan Fouts

But who to remove?

I'd say get rid of Bradshaw & BigBen. But I'm biased.

 

[msgkings322]

I'd say get rid of Bradshaw & BigBen. But I'm biased.

Clearly.

 

[Wazmankg]

I never quite understood the hype around Aikman's career. To me he was an average QB on a great team. And if he didn't have 3 rings there is no way he'd be in the HOF based off just his stats. Because if you believe Aikman's career stats are HOF worthy or make him a top 20 QB of all time then you must also think that Matt Hasselbeck is top 20 all time too. Seriously, look at both QB and compare them. You could argue that Hass had the better career, he just didn't win the rings (although he probably should have one from 2005). I use Hasselbeck for this example because I'm familiar with him as a Seahawk fan, and because I don't think you could find a single HOF voter that would say he is HOF worthy based off of his career stats.

Aikman: 32942 yards, 165 TDs, 141 INTs, 81.6 career rating.
Hasselbeck: 36638 yards, 212 TDs, 153 INTs, 82.4 career rating.

I'm not bashing Aikman, I actually like the guy, but I just think he was a tad over rated. He was part of that Cowboy's dynasty so I guess that carries him a long way in the minds of many people.

Minus rings, neither Aikman nor Bradshaw would have ever even been considered HOF worthy.

 

[GNG]

This is fair but do the Niners deserve any credit? Their defense was crazy good in the first half (and it didn't matter when they loosened up in the second). Their O line dominating is what got those rushing yards.

I believe I said that.