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How to Fix College Football

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What I'll never understand is, how can you NOT win your Regional Championship, and then somehow expect a chance to win a National Championship?

So if you beat 4-5 ranked teams during the season and slip up against a 7 win team who lost 4-5 GAMES during the season. That 7 win team goes to the playoff and is one of the best 4 teams in the nation...I just don't like that logic but tbh I don't like when a non conf champion makes it. Still don't think it is the most important factor.

It's why we need a super conference, it will solve everything and be a lot of fun.
 

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It's already ruined. You just refuse to admit it.

Probably true.

When they let in 'paid for' athletes, it is simply game over. We all know everybody cheats, but when you can put the money above the table, how does anybody win than those with the deepest pockets?

I can honestly see the very rise and fall of college football in my lifetime. At its Pinnaccle in the 70s, 80s, 90s, 00s, and 10s, it could be doomed to fail in the 20's and 30s.
 

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Hey what happened to B1G champion Penn State that year? They should have gone?

Where did I say Penn State should have received a bid?

In the end, did we not get the VERY best 2 teams in arguably the best Championship since Texas/USC??
 

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4 is what I wanted.

Quit putting words into others people's mouths asshat.
did you miss where I said "guessing"? If I was wrong about what you wanted, so be it, but no one put words in your mouth.

Care to share how the sport would be ruined if they went to 8 games? If they went to 8 and it was ruined, does that mean you'd stop watching?
 

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Probably true.

When they let in 'paid for' athletes, it is simply game over. We all know everybody cheats, but when you can put the money above the table, how does anybody win than those with the deepest pockets?

I can honestly see the very rise and fall of college football in my lifetime. At its Pinnaccle in the 70s, 80s, 90s, 00s, and 10s, it could be doomed to fail in the 20's and 30s.
Paying them for likeness could certainly be an issue, but maybe let it play out and see how they regulate it, and what the restrictions/limits might be?
 

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Seems really fucking simple to me.

Step 1: Win your conference
Step 2: Those assigned the task, decide the best 4 teams of the conference champs

Every year we have 2 to 3 teams that separate themselves (ALWAYS conference champs by the way). And then the dolts of "We need more teams" create some stupidasso argument about some 5th or 6th team to add for some shittard reason.
Not a big fan of someone disagreeing with your opinion, are ya sport?
 

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That isn't getting the best four teams in though, just bc you win one game doesn't mean you are a top 4 team. I understand you said pick from those conference champs but it's not always that simple. Not sure why this is hard for people to comprehend.
Agree...but why can't some comprehend no one really knows who the best 4 teams are?
 

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What I'll never understand is, how can you NOT win your Regional Championship, and then somehow expect a chance to win a National Championship?
Agree...yet some who claim 4 best must make it thought bama was among them when they lost to Auburn and didn't even win their division.
 

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Not a big fan of someone disagreeing with your opinion, are ya sport?

Sport?

Ever looked into a mirror Champ?

I have no problem with disagreements, and arguing. But you seem to have a know-it-all shit about you, now don't you?

Are you ever wrong Champ?
 

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Agree...but why can't some comprehend no one really knows who the best 4 teams are?

Why can't some comprehend that competition is about determining a winner and not the best team?
 

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Hey what happened to B1G champion Penn State that year? They should have gone?
Exactly...always funny to me when some think the results AFTER the CFP games prove whether their choices BEFORE the games were justified or not.

MSU went in 2015 and were spanked by Bama. Pretty sure OSU either wins that year or keeps it far closer. But MSU earned the right to go.
 

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Sport?

Ever looked into a mirror Champ?

I have no problem with disagreements, and arguing. But you seem to have a know-it-all shit about you, now don't you?

Are you ever wrong Champ?
I am one who answers direct questions and, yes, I've looked into a mirror. You ever gonna answer how the sport will be ruined if they go to 8?

since I never claimed I am sure what should happen how can I really be wrong in this discussion? I've only said I PREFER 8 teams make it. How can that be wrong?

I said if they keep it at 4, that's fine, I only WISH they would come up with a way to make us more aware of their rules for selecting the 4.

Not exactly the same as you having Yosemite Sam-like namecalling meltdowns when someone doesn't see things exactly as you do, is it?
 

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I agree this is a bit of an issue, but seems you just want to complain. Best team gets in by record, you complain. Team with lesser record earns title by winning CCG you complain.

Guess they could do what B12 does and just have top 2 play.....but I suspect if they did and say one team won after losing the first game they played you'd complain.
Yes, let’s just go back to the preBCS days and not have championships decided on the field.

I want 14 team conferences to drop divisions, have 3 permanent rivals, the other ten teams remaining are put into two pools of 5 that rotate every year so every player will play every team at least twice and play at every team’s stadium in conference. You take the top two teams and have them play in the conference championship game. Let the committee decide who the top 4 teams are. We don’t need to cheapen the college season and we sure as hell don’t need to drop the conference championship games because we are afraid of having teams play because we need to give more teams participation trophies.

You are the one who wanted to ignore head to head game and cry about Baylor’s OOC schedule and cry that TCU was the better team. Did you hear me say shit about Oklahoma and Texas last year? You have never seen me bitch about Michigan State losing to Wisconsin in 2011 (other than that flopping soccer player Wisconsin called a punter). You just keep making up arguments that people aren’t making.
 

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It cannot be fixed. Sports attendance is going down. Prices are going up to attend.

It is the internet generation. They want to stay in their bedroom and watch youtube. This is what my kids do when they come home.

When I was young and old, I wanted OUT OF THE HOUSE. Let me play sports.

Of course back then, we only had three TV channels, newspaper, radio and a phone with a cord attached to it so NO ONE could call you when you were outside and away from the interrupting device, aka telephone.
 

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Without a ccg, it would make the schedules even more possibly unfair though, correct?
I guess it might a little.

Look at Bama and Auburn this year. Bama drew South Carolina and Tennessee. Auburn drew Georgia and Florida. Not even close. And it is hard to blame either one of them since they didn't have any choice in matter.

I see no way to equalize conference or non conference scheduling. While the Big 12 plays a true round robin, it really isn't totally equalized because of the order and timing in some instances.
 

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Of course back then, we only had three TV channels, newspaper, radio and a phone with a cord attached to it so NO ONE could call you when you were outside and away from the interrupting device, aka telephone.
Old fart.
 

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were we also butthurt when we bitched about the BCS and wanted 4 teams?

Yes.

Bitched, bitched until got 4 team playoff, then that wasn't good enough because, GASP, team here or there didn't get in, so the bitch, bitch for 8 or 16 started.

Fuck it. Have no playoff, just give everyone a damn trophy and a hug. Because the 9th or 17th team that gets left out will start the bitching all over again.
 

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I am one who answers direct questions and, yes, I've looked into a mirror. You ever gonna answer how the sport will be ruined if they go to 8?

since I never claimed I am sure what should happen how can I really be wrong in this discussion? I've only said I PREFER 8 teams make it. How can that be wrong?

I said if they keep it at 4, that's fine, I only WISH they would come up with a way to make us more aware of their rules for selecting the 4.

Not exactly the same as you having Yosemite Sam-like namecalling meltdowns when someone doesn't see things exactly as you do, is it?

Wel Champ, I'll break it down for you, shall we?

If we have an 8 team playoff, what game last week really wold have mattered? If any? Bama would be in regardless, along with Ohio State, Clemson, LSU, and Georgia.

It would come down to Utah, Oklahoma or Baylor, and maybe some B10 team like Wisconsin if they upset Ohio State. We'd get 2 to 4 teams in coming in off a loss. Great playoff system Champ.

People want an expanded playoff, but we already have one. It is called "WIN YOUR FUCKING CONFERENCE". You know, just like the NFL.
 

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Wel Champ, I'll break it down for you, shall we?

If we have an 8 team playoff, what game last week really wold have mattered? If any? Bama would be in regardless, along with Ohio State, Clemson, LSU, and Georgia.

It would come down to Utah, Oklahoma or Baylor, and maybe some B10 team like Wisconsin if they upset Ohio State. We'd get 2 to 4 teams in coming in off a loss. Great playoff system Champ.

People want an expanded playoff, but we already have one. It is called "WIN YOUR FUCKING CONFERENCE". You know, just like the NFL.

Dont waste your time.

Know this guy from Rivals where he complained about this excessively and is like a damn tick, won't let go or acknowledge any other way but to expand. Hell6keep harping and harping as long as anyone disagrees with him.

Waste of breath
 

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were we also butthurt when we bitched about the BCS and wanted 4 teams?
No the BCS was broken.

Until the playoffs break there isn't a reasonable argument to expand.
 
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