Who is going to stop me? James Harden

[FORKWDEVIL]

60 easy pts! Easy 3 quarters!

 

[buckalis]

60 easy pts! Easy 3 quarters!

Was this against the ...Bucks?

 

[logic]

Was this against the ...Bucks?

Wow, you manage to make even a Harden thread about the Bucks.
You do know there are other teams in the NBA?

 

[buckalis]

Wow, you manage to make even a Harden thread about the Bucks.
You do know there are other teams in the NBA?

Obviously you reply to this thread without even having read the Q in the title (which is idiotic enough by definition)...

To your info: The Q is "who is going to stop me (J.H)?"

I believe that 1st game of the season for the Rockets, was the defeat at home against the Bucks (the league's best defense)... How many pts did he score in this game and at what percentage? ...can you recall?

If you can't, look it up... and then, after you do, shut the fuck up!

 

[Shaqdaddy11]

Obviously you reply to this thread without even having read the Q in the title (which is idiotic enough by definition)...

To your info: The Q is "who is going to stop me (J.H)?"

I believe that 1st game of the season for the Rockets, was the defeat at home against the Bucks (the league's best defense)... How many pts did he score in this game and at what percentage? ...can you recall?

If you can't, look it up... and then, after you do, shut the fuck up!

Actually, the Nuggets have the best defensive rating in the league. Followed by the Raptors.

Look it up... and then, after you do, shut the fuck up!

 

[tlance]

Actually, the Nuggets have the best defensive rating in the league. Followed by the Raptors.

Look it up... and then, after you do, shut the fuck up!

It doesn’t matter.

The Bucks have the best defense in the league because Bucky says so and he knows more than everybody else.

 

[logic]

Obviously you reply to this thread without even having read the Q in the title (which is idiotic enough by definition)...

To your info: The Q is "who is going to stop me (J.H)?"

I believe that 1st game of the season for the Rockets, was the defeat at home against the Bucks (the league's best defense)... How many pts did he score in this game and at what percentage? ...can you recall?

If you can't, look it up... and then, after you do, shut the fuck up!

Wow, quite the attack. I read past the headline to where he was talking about this specific 60 point game; which, by the way, was not against the Bucks.
Just because you know nothing beyond the Bucks ( and even that is extremely questionable) doesn't mean others shouldn't be able to discuss other teams.

And again, why the instant jump to personal insults. You must realize it only weakens any point you are trying to make.

 

[logic]

Oh, and just for you, I did look it up. 19, 14, and 7, while maybe slowing him down a little, does not come to my definition of stopping Harden.

 

[buckalis]

Oh, and just for you, I did look it up. 19, 14, and 7, while maybe slowing him down a little, does not come to my definition of stopping Harden.

do you call that "slowing him down a little"? He had 1 3pt in 7 attempts with Bledsoe stuck on him so that he couldn't breath...

 

[logic]

do you call that "slowing him down a little"? He had 1 3pt in 7 attempts with Bledsoe stuck on him so that he couldn't breath...

19 pts + 14 assists (that means at least another 28 pts he's helped his team get). Yes, you didn't give up 60 to him, but damn, that ain't stopping him.

 

[HurricaneDij39]

19 pts + 14 assists (that means at least another 28 pts he's helped his team get). Yes, you didn't give up 60 to him, but damn, that ain't stopping him.

If my team "allows" those totals to James Harden, I like my chances quite well.

 

[tlance]

The Bucks have a very unconventional approach against Harden that is highly effective, but it also looks crazy so other teams are afraid to replicate it.

The defender sits on Harden’s left hand trying to take away the step back 3, but they literally allow him to get a straight line drive to the rim whenever he wants into help defenders. The strategy makes Harden uncomfortable and he has not yet figured out how to beat it efficiently. But my bet is that he will.

 

[CitySushi]

The Bucks have a very unconventional approach against Harden that is highly effective, but it also looks crazy so other teams are afraid to replicate it.

The defender sits on Harden’s left hand trying to take away the step back 3, but they literally allow him to get a straight line drive to the rim whenever he wants into help defenders. The strategy makes Harden uncomfortable and he has not yet figured out how to beat it efficiently. But my bet is that he will.

The best defense is to let Kevon Looney guard Harden.

 

[Shanemansj13]

Harden is unstoppable but that isn't the problem. This year is the perfect opportunity to get a title. Yeah, there are still some great teams and players in the west now, with the Clippers, Lakers and Nuggets being some of the best BUT the Warriors are gone. If you can't do it now, you won't ever win a title.

2019 WCF's - 3 of the 4 games they lost to the Warrriors.
11-25
9-28
9-19

2018 WCF's
9-24
5-21
10-24
12-29
11-26
They actually wont 3 of those too!!

2017 WCS's
3-17
2-11

2016 WC Round 1
7-19
7-19
4-13

2015 WCF's
3-16
2-11

2014 WC Round 1
8-28
6-19
5-15
13-35

2013 WC Round 1
6-19
9-24
4-12
7-22

He will get his points even if he shoots bad bc of free throws but he has a long history of failing to get his team over the hump and in some cases losing to the inferior team. Great scorer, can't be stopped but he will fall apart in one series in the playoffs...I will say he has played better more recently but this has to be the year he gets to the Finals. I feel like we say this every year but this year is different...no superteam W's.

 

[CaptainStubing]

The playoffs will stop him, as usual

 

[CitySushi]

Harden is unstoppable but that isn't the problem. This year is the perfect opportunity to get a title. Yeah, there are still some great teams and players in the west now, with the Clippers, Lakers and Nuggets being some of the best BUT the Warriors are gone. If you can't do it now, you won't ever win a title.

2019 WCF's - 3 of the 4 games they lost to the Warrriors.
11-25
9-28
9-19

2018 WCF's
9-24
5-21
10-24
12-29
11-26
They actually wont 3 of those too!!

2017 WCS's
3-17
2-11

2016 WC Round 1
7-19
7-19
4-13

2015 WCF's
3-16
2-11

2014 WC Round 1
8-28
6-19
5-15
13-35

2013 WC Round 1
6-19
9-24
4-12
7-22

He will get his points even if he shoots bad bc of free throws but he has a long history of failing to get his team over the hump and in some cases losing to the inferior team. Great scorer, can't be stopped but he will fall apart in one series in the playoffs...I will say he has played better more recently but this has to be the year he gets to the Finals. I feel like we say this every year but this year is different...no superteam W's.

I've been saying this for a while, but the reason Harden's game doesn't translate well to the playoffs is he relies a lot upon drawing fouls and in the playoffs the contact level and the physicality allowed go up substantially. On top of that teams in the regular season can't really game plan around him as much as they can in a 7 game series.

Harden is a beast on offense. When he's got it going from the perimeter, he's unstoppable. But when he's relying on drawing fouls that works in the regular season, but not so much during the playoffs.

 

[tlance]

I've been saying this for a while, but the reason Harden's game doesn't translate well to the playoffs is he relies a lot upon drawing fouls and in the playoffs the contact level and the physicality allowed go up substantially. On top of that teams in the regular season can't really game plan around him as much as they can in a 7 game series.

Harden is a beast on offense. When he's got it going from the perimeter, he's unstoppable. But when he's relying on drawing fouls that works in the regular season, but not so much during the playoffs.

This is spot on.

 

[tducey]

Harden's a very good player but seems to be to offensively oriented. That works in the season, not so much in the playoffs.

 

[DarthVedder]

To me, the Rockets are too predictable and not a good fit for the playoffs. I'd take any good defensive team like the Clippers, Lakers or Nuggets over them.

I can guarantee that these two things will happen very often during the playoffs:

1. Harden will hoard the ball and try to be bailed out by the refs after dribbling aimlessly for 20 seconds.
2. Westbrook will become frustrated about not having the ball and will go into full hero mode, launching idiotic threes as soon as he gets the ball.

 

[trojanfan12]

I've been saying this for a while, but the reason Harden's game doesn't translate well to the playoffs is he relies a lot upon drawing fouls and in the playoffs the contact level and the physicality allowed go up substantially. On top of that teams in the regular season can't really game plan around him as much as they can in a 7 game series.

Harden is a beast on offense. When he's got it going from the perimeter, he's unstoppable. But when he's relying on drawing fouls that works in the regular season, but not so much during the playoffs.

Agree 100%. I'd also add that it's one thing to do what he does when a team is seeing him in a single regular season game.

It's a little different when they get to see him for potentially 7 straight games and can concentrate of ways to defend him.

Doesn't necessarily "stop" him, he's going to get his points.

But, as the shooting numbers @Shanemansj13 showed...making him inefficient helps a lot.