2019 Offseason Thread

[msgkings322]

Three games in a row isn't just some kinda odd coincidence. For some bizarre reason the league doesn't like the Saints.

Book recommendation for you: Nassim Taleb "Fooled By Randomness"

 

[dtgold88]

One reason football is not a big thing with me is how much the officials can affect the game outcome, more than in any other sport. And you are correct, it's very hard to officiate. So combine those two facts and you get a very arbitrary sport, more than others

To be fair can't the same be said in any sport? I get probably not as much in NBA as so much action.

what about MLB? Home plate ump has more effect than any ref I would think. And I've even heard them say they have their own strike zone. what if that ref last night just said he had his own interpretation of a forward pass?

 

[Wamu]

One reason football is not a big thing with me is how much the officials can affect the game outcome, more than in any other sport. And you are correct, it's very hard to officiate. So combine those two facts and you get a very arbitrary sport, more than others

The league has changed the rules so much to favor the precious QB's. If you touch a QB it's a 15 yarder. And the DB's can't be as physical as they were in the past. Is it any wonder why the recordbooks have been rewritten over the last 10+ years?

 

[Wamu]

Book recommendation for you: Nassim Taleb "Fooled By Randomness"

I can't read. Is that book on audio?

 

[msgkings322]

The league has changed the rules so much to favor the precious QB's. If you touch a QB it's a 15 yarder. And the DB's can't be as physical as they were in the past. Is it any wonder why the recordbooks have been rewritten over the last 10+ years?

Sure, the sport has evolved to be less violent. I even read concussions have been declining slightly in the last few years

 

[msgkings322]

I can't read. Is that book on audio?

Yes but it's only available being read by Fran Drescher

 

[msgkings322]

To be fair can't the same be said in any sport? I get probably not as much in NBA as so much action.

what about MLB? Home plate ump has more effect than any ref I would think. And I've even heard them say they have their own strike zone. what if that ref last night just said he had his own interpretation of a forward pass?

The umps idiosyncratic strike zone has much less effect on game outcomes than football penalties and catch/no catch fumble/no fumble calls

 

[Wamu]

Yes but it's only available being read by Fran Drescher

Damn you're mean.

 

[Wamu]

Sure, the sport has evolved to be less violent. I even read concussions have been declining slightly in the last few years

Very true. Health of the players is important. But it's changed the game forever & given any offense with a damn good/great QB a major advantage.

I wonder what kinda #'s Marino, Fouts & Moon would put up in todays game?

 

[msgkings322]

Very true. Health of the players is important. But it's changed the game forever & given any offense with a damn good/great QB a major advantage.

I wonder what kinda #'s Marino, Fouts & Moon would put up in todays game?

Probably good ones

 

[dtgold88]

The umps idiosyncratic strike zone has much less effect on game outcomes than football penalties and catch/no catch fumble/no fumble calls

Sure, there will be times when a call is so awful (like NO/Rams last year) but there are much fewer occurrences of such calls. There are 250+ pitches in most games and the home plate ump determines how a pitcher will pitch that game as well as what the hitter thinks he can let go or if he must swing.

Though to be fair, I guess because the game is so tough to officiate there are probably plenty of blatant missed calls we just don't know about.

 

[dtgold88]

Very true. Health of the players is important. But it's changed the game forever & given any offense with a damn good/great QB a major advantage.

I wonder what kinda #'s Marino, Fouts & Moon would put up in todays game?

Give me a choice from back in that time frame (or maybe a little later) I'd love to see what Steve Young could do today. Marino might be Brady with his quick release and today's WRs.

Having said that, guess likely the WRs back then would excel too with today's rules.

 

[Wamu]

Give me a choice from back in that time frame (or maybe a little later) I'd love to see what Steve Young could do today. Marino might be Brady with his quick release and today's WRs.

Having said that, guess likely the WRs back then would excel too with today's rules.

Steve Young's another good example. Joe Montana. How many more TD's would Rice have scored in todays game?

 

[msgkings322]

Sure, there will be times when a call is so awful (like NO/Rams last year) but there are much fewer occurrences of such calls. There are 250+ pitches in most games and the home plate ump determines how a pitcher will pitch that game as well as what the hitter thinks he can let go or if he must swing.

Though to be fair, I guess because the game is so tough to officiate there are probably plenty of blatant missed calls we just don't know about.

Might all be a thing of the past if they implement "robot umps". Already tried it in one of the minor leagues, feels likely to happen (even thought I'm completely opposed, the quirkiness and human elements of baseball are what sets it apart)

 

[msgkings322]

Steve Young's another good example. Joe Montana. How many more TD's would Rice have scored in todays game?

All offenses would have scored more, obviously

 

[Wamu]

All offenses would have scored more, obviously

Are you sure? You should start a thread about it.

 

[dtgold88]

Might all be a thing of the past if they implement "robot umps". Already tried it in one of the minor leagues, feels likely to happen (even thought I'm completely opposed, the quirkiness and human elements of baseball are what sets it apart)

I think it will happen eventually, as well. Maybe in next couple years.

 

[trojanfan12]

One reason football is not a big thing with me is how much the officials can affect the game outcome, more than in any other sport. And you are correct, it's very hard to officiate. So combine those two facts and you get a very arbitrary sport, more than others

I don't know about that. I don't think there's much that's more arbitrary than the strike zone in baseball.

 

[Black Adam]

I don't know about that. I don't think there's much that's more arbitrary than the strike zone in baseball.

the subjective calls in basketball ain't much better...

I mean, can you think of another sport where officails affect an outcome more...?

 

[dtgold88]

the subjective calls in basketball ain't much better...

I mean, can you think of another sport where officails affect an outcome more...?

In the sense there is so much action I think you are right. But something I've never heard an NBA ref say is "I have my own interpretation of a certain rule" as I've heard umpires say of the strike zone.