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WiggyRuss

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No.

But any PG with comparable numbers who is a plus defender and not a locker room cancer certainly is.
put that in the no shit sherlock category

if two players have comparable numers and one is a better defender and better teammate obviously that one is more valuable.

way to go out on a limb.

any more logic to impart on us?

is water wet?

is the sky blue?

are the Wizards a joke? lol
 

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"There is a vast canyon between the teams in the West and the teams in the East."

Tlance in 2018

Tlance today: There was barely a difference

:lol:

Um. Today?

There is more star power in the West than maybe ever before.

We were talking about 2006 -2010 which was actually pretty close and 2011-2014 which was less close.

So both things can actually be true.

But as usual, you are taking my comment out of context.
 

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put that in the no shit sherlock category

if two players have comparable numers and one is a better defender and better teammate obviously that one is more valuable.

way to go out on a limb.

any more logic to impart on us?

is water wet?

is the sky blue?

is Wiggy a joke? lol

fixed...:D
 

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oh really? find the "Cavs contingent" that said it you simpleton

Okay jackass here you go. Comment # 2662- That makes any PG that plays better D than Kyrie the better player

Yer boy dtgold said that. Now go away you pest.
 

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wow...so much irrational from you in just one post. I'll go in order.

**"Every single post"? Let me guess, this will be semantics when I point out what it really is is just another extreme comment by you.

**West was 4 wins better on average PER team...or roughly 60 better overall. Not just "a little better"

**Many say playoff teams matter more so I figured let's look at the worst one. But no matter...we can choose what you used and it makes my point as well.

** 4 games per team is drastic.

** might be true, but wasn't what you said.

** you saying "West is not much better" is not semantics. It implies you don't think the West was much better which is absurd.

Then again, by your "logic" Eric Snow had a better career than Kyrie Irving has had.

Semantics.

All semantics.

Bosh averaged 12 more wins. Not explained by conference differences.

Also, while Bosh was on the Raptors, the West was not that much better. It was like 2.5 wins a season.

Again, semantics.
 

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Okay jackass here you go. Comment # 2662- That makes any PG that plays better D than Kyrie the better player

Yer boy dtgold said that. Now go away you pest.
so thats the "Cavs contingent" you headbobbing cocksucker?
 

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Find where I said tlance said Snow > Kyrie

I said by his "logic" Snow > Kyrie

You get that this is more extreme than anything I have ever posted right?

That is a stupid analogy.
 

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Okay jackass here you go. Comment # 2662- That makes any PG that plays better D than Kyrie the better player

Yer boy dtgold said that. Now go away you pest.

geeze, i used to give Shanesman so much crap, but it turns out he's the only Cavs fan on these boards with a brain...
 

tlance

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put that in the no shit sherlock category

if two players have comparable numers and one is a better defender and better teammate obviously that one is more valuable.

way to go out on a limb.

any more logic to impart on us?

is water wet?

is the sky blue?

are the Wizards a joke? lol

That is the point.

Love and Bosh have comparable numbers for their career with Love’s maybe slightly better. But they are close.

Bosh was clearly the better defender.

So if this is such an obvious point, then why are your boys arguing so hard for Love?
 

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That is the point.

Love and Bosh have comparable numbers for their career with Love’s maybe slightly better. But they are close.

Bosh was clearly the better defender.

So if this is such an obvious point, then why are your boys arguing so hard for Love?

#Cavscolors
 

WiggyRuss

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That is the point.

Love and Bosh have comparable numbers for their career with Love’s maybe slightly better. But they are close.

Bosh was clearly the better defender.

So if this is such an obvious point, then why are your boys arguing so hard for Love?
Love has considerably better rebounding and shooting numbers.

As I said- Love is one of the best combination rebounding/passing/shooting bigs the NBA has ever seen in an era where 3 pt shooting is of the utmost importance.

Bosh's poor rebounding compared to Love's top tier rebounding is a material difference. Bosh made like 300 3's in his career. Love made 190 in one season.

both embraced their roles as 3rd options and were great teammates.
 

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Okay jackass here you go. Comment # 2662- That makes any PG that plays better D than Kyrie the better player

Yer boy dtgold said that. Now go away you pest.
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There is your vocab word for the day. "Contingent". Read the definition and use it CORRECTLY in a sentence - if its not too difficult for such a simpleton as yourself.
 

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You get the Worthy was one of the few players there is an argument for, right?

Worthy’s numbers were a lot better in the playoffs than in the regular season.

Bosh’s career numbers are better than Worthy’s and Worthy was never a #1. My guess is that if he were he would have had similar results as Bosh.

But I am not going to argue with Worthy being better than Bosh. That is close. Which is why I had him on my list when I said Bosh is “arguably the best 3rd option of all time”

Arguably. Meaning there is a case to be made for him. Not he definitely is.

Why was this moved to the Tristan/Whiteside thread? LOL...doesn't really apply but whatever.

You have Bosh as the 3rd best option ever? I know you said arguably but that's a huge argument. Too many guys, IMO, like Klay, Ray Allen, Draymond Green and Worthy, Mchale, Mike Bibby. etc.
 

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Semantics.

All semantics.

Bosh averaged 12 more wins. Not explained by conference differences.

Also, while Bosh was on the Raptors, the West was not that much better. It was like 2.5 wins a season.

Again, semantics.
now tripling down? Yes, the West was that much better.
 

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Um. Today?

There is more star power in the West than maybe ever before.

We were talking about 2006 -2010 which was actually pretty close and 2011-2014 which was less close.

So both things can actually be true.

But as usual, you are taking my comment out of context.
Agree he took that comment out of context as 2018 has nothing to do with 2006-2014.

But still think your comment about that time is way off base.
 

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Why was this moved to the Tristan/Whiteside thread? LOL...doesn't really apply but whatever.

You have Bosh as the 3rd best option ever? I know you said arguably but that's a huge argument. Too many guys, IMO, like Klay, Ray Allen, Draymond Green and Worthy, Mchale, Mike Bibby. etc.

Mike Bobby LOL.

I don’t think he is the best 3rd option ever.

But he is in the conversation with:

Worthy, McHale, Klay and I guess Ray Allen.

Draymond really can’t be on here because Klay pretty clearly is better than him.
 

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Okay jackass here you go. Comment # 2662- That makes any PG that plays better D than Kyrie the better player

Yer boy dtgold said that. Now go away you pest.
yes I did.....but you forgot to include the first part where I say if you think Bosh is better than Love because he plays better D......
 
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