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2018-2019 NBA Regular Season Thread

CitySushi

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More disappointing career so far....

Rondae Hollis-Jefferson or Michael Kidd-Gilchrest?

Neither has improved much since being drafted. But, at least the Nets didn't give Rondae a 4/52 extension like the Bees did with MKG.

Folks, fell your Teams to stop drafting Dude's with hyphenated names.

* side eyes Shai Gilgeous-Alexander *

Wait a sec....

Michael Carter-Williams

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Great, then feel free to explain what you meant by this, the point you were trying to make - Hell, you guys gave the Lakers shit for years while having Lebron return and they're still not close to a title. So maybe consider yourself in that same scenario.."

The Bucks, Denver and Indiana are run better than Gilbert has run the Cavs? Denver is about to make their first playoff appearance in, what, 5-6 seasons? Has Indiana been relevant since Lebron was in Miami? Pre Giannis (and, really, pre this season) when was the last time Milwaukee mattered? Did this come from your one functioning brain cell?

Sure, IF you take weather out of the equation you could count SA. But weather matters and it's a little nicer in TX than here.

When Lebron went back to the Cavs, the Lakers started their rebuilding process. They started loading up on draft picks and were saving up cap space (sound familiar?). Wiggy gave Lakers fans all the crap in the world, and even with Lebron joining the Lakers, they're still nowhere near a title (that could change if AD and/or Butler join the Lakers in some capacity).

In terms of being ran, what have the Cavs done without Lebron while under Gilbert? Gilbert won't even retain a quality GM in David Griffin. The other franchises like Indiana, Milwaukee, and Denver didn't have Lebron play for them.

I've given HurricaneDij plenty of crap about the Pacers. But for the last couple of years, they've been a pretty consistent franchise and are consistently in the playoffs. They're going to be a top 4 seed while losing their start player 2-3 months ago.

Denver built their team from the ground up and look like they could potentially be the #2 seed in the West this year.

Again, I ask, what has Cleveland done under Dan Gilbert without Lebron? Get lucky year after year in the lotto? Whoopty-fucking-doo!
 

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lol

From a "knowing the game" standpoint...Kobe would be great.

From a patience standpoint...he'd be a disaster. It would take about 3 games (if that) before he started subbing himself in.

I would not assume Kobe would be bad.

He has the knowledge and he knows how to communicate it. Those are probably the two most important traits for coaches to have.

The question is what would his mindset be. If he had reasonable expectations and didn't get too frustrated when his players fell short of perfection, he could be a damn good coach. Like you said, his ability to manage the locker room would eventually depend on how he dealt with player failure.

Leading a team with talent, I think Kobe could be awesome if he wanted it. But he wouldn't be my choice to take over the rebuilding Pelicans or a team like that.
 

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FDU is playing better in the 2nd half....
 

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And for a similar reason not to take Dame it didn't make much sense to take Drummond with TT on the team.

Sure it did.

TT played mostly PF his first few years in the league. He is only a center in the modern Currified NBA.
 

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The Lakers trailing, 18-14, to the Bucks....halfway through the 1st quarter.
 

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It's in the discussion for sure. Olowakandi, Kwame Brown and maybe Fultz are the others off the top of my head.

Kwame Brown was a massive bust.

But he played 11 years, started 281 games and had 6 seasons averaging over 7 points and 8 seasons over 5 rebounds.

Those are miserably low standards for a #1 overall pick.

But Anthony Bennett appeared in 151 games, started 4. Never averaged more than 5.2 points or 3.8 rebounds and was completely out of the league in 4 years. And not because of a massive injury like Greg Oden.

Kwame Brown does not compare to Bennett on the bust meter. Really not sure anybody can.
 

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When Lebron went back to the Cavs, the Lakers started their rebuilding process. They started loading up on draft picks and were saving up cap space (sound familiar?). Wiggy gave Lakers fans all the crap in the world, and even with Lebron joining the Lakers, they're still nowhere near a title (that could change if AD and/or Butler join the Lakers in some capacity).

In terms of being ran, what have the Cavs done without Lebron while under Gilbert? Gilbert won't even retain a quality GM in David Griffin. The other franchises like Indiana, Milwaukee, and Denver didn't have Lebron play for them.

I've given HurricaneDij plenty of crap about the Pacers. But for the last couple of years, they've been a pretty consistent franchise and are consistently in the playoffs. They're going to be a top 4 seed while losing their start player 2-3 months ago.

Denver built their team from the ground up and look like they could potentially be the #2 seed in the West this year.

Again, I ask, what has Cleveland done under Dan Gilbert without Lebron? Get lucky year after year in the lotto? Whoopty-fucking-doo!
Gilberts owned the Cavs a grand total of 4 full seasons without Lebron. gmafb.

also

you see Tate MArtell was given his waiver? Should be a decent pickup for Miami....hes no Fields, but who is?
 

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Gilberts owned the Cavs a grand total of 4 full seasons without Lebron. gmafb.

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you see Tate MArtell was given his waiver? Should be a decent pickup for Miami....hes no Fields, but who is?

1. The argument is about best ran franchises. I haven't even seen Gilbert sniff the playoffs without Lebron. We're in year 5 without Lebron (4 years in Miami, this year being included makes 5) in Cleveland under Dan Gilbert.

2. Tate's pretty good. I think Ohio State and Miami both got upgraded at the position. Watching UF fans spin it and say Frenks is better than Martell is hilarious. Appreciate the pick up.
 

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I'm sure he did. I'm also guessing in the example with Klay covering Harden he missed some shots he usually makes.

Harden missed shots he can make for sure. But Klay's contests make them more difficult than normal.

Klay is really long and great at contesting perimeter shots. He is the best in the league at it IMO.

Makes sense though. Tony Bennett spends a ridiculous percentage of his practice time on defensive fundamentals like closing out and contesting without fouling. Forcing Contested jump shots are what the pack line defense is built on.

Klay only played for Bennett for 1 year, but Bennett will not play freshmen unless they can execute his defensive principals. Klay started every game and averaged 33 minutes as a freshman. I have no doubt Klay would credit Bennett for helping instill his defensive principles.
 

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Kwame Brown was a massive bust.

But he played 11 years, started 281 games and had 6 seasons averaging over 7 points and 8 seasons over 5 rebounds.

Those are miserably low standards for a #1 overall pick.

But Anthony Bennett appeared in 151 games, started 4. Never averaged more than 5.2 points or 3.8 rebounds and was completely out of the league in 4 years. And not because of a massive injury like Greg Oden.

Kwame Brown does not compare to Bennett on the bust meter. Really not sure anybody can.
Exactly.

Bennett was beyond horrible.
 

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you know the name of that character without looking it up?
Wee Bey. Don’t test me on the wire man. One of my all time favorite shows. Michael B Jordan will always be Wallace to me.

Edit: that scene also is when Stringer told him he shot a cop.
 
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