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WizardHawk

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Please, if you're gonna argue with me, use my own words against me instead of making shit up. I never said they are a top 4 team. Do I think they could be deserving of a playoff spot come seasons end? Yes, but even I can admit they are not a top 4 team right now. Don't know when this turned into a "I said they should play for the title" argument but here we are.
FFS, I think I'm getting dumber by the minute staying down this low.... :tsk:

Let me introduce you to OP....
I debate on this this forum all the time with people about expanding the playoff and I hear consistently " it's the committees job to pick the 4 best teams "

Ok . So why does the SoS matter then ? Is it not entirely possible UCF is one of the 4 best teams in the country even if their resume isn't one of the 4 best ?

You all want to dance around this circle jerk of "We aren't saying they are top 4 worthy, but they deserve a chance at the playoffs because that's what the committee is supposed to do."

Quit being pussies about it. If you think they deserve a shot then say you think they should be top 4 because that's what getting a shot means.

Can someone please add some college football for dummies links up here for these people? I've got a major headache now. :tsk:
 

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Who said UCF thinks they are the only ones? Find it. I'll wait.
oh i was under the impression ucf fans didnt understand why we see them the way we do... Like other midmajors..if they understood that they would understand why they are top 4 worthy. My mistake..
 

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FIGHT ME BRO

Most of these responses are mere assumption/putting words into comments that don't exist. There are arguments happening over words that were NEVER said. It's a fucking shit show.
 

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oh i was under the impression ucf fans didnt understand why we see them the way we do... Like other midmajors..if they understood that they would understand why they are top 4 worthy. My mistake..

Noone here has said that UCF is top 4 worthy. IDK where you got that from.
 

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Yeah, we'll make sure that 8 years from now our schedule is tougher.

That'd be a start. Acting like UCF tried to schedule tough with those games is laughable dude. You're lucky Pitt has turned out to be at worst a 7 win team this year.
 

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AND i said they CANNOT COMPETE, and dont DESERVE to compete in the top 4. They are not Great, they are good but not great simple as that, they are okie lite, wvu, northwestern, purdue, wisconsin, good..... they are not great and even then they would lose to easily half those teams i just mentioned

The current UCF team would wipe the floor with your Huskers and my Buffs. They would also be favored in games against 2/3 of Power 5 conference teams. UCF also has a chance to beat that elite 1/3 of Power 5 teams, (2018 Bama the exception), on a neutral site.

You interpret the, "can they pretty much compete with anyone", question however you like.
 

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Most of these responses are mere assumption/putting words into comments that don't exist. There are arguments happening over words that were NEVER said. It's a fucking shit show.
FIGHT ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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That'd be a start. Acting like UCF tried to schedule tough with those games is laughable dude. You're lucky Pitt has turned out to be at worst a 7 win team this year.

Got it. Don't try to schedule P5 teams that play for their conference title game 8 years in the future. Noted!
 

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Yeah, we'll make sure that 8 years from now our schedule is tougher.
It's funny b/c when Bama fans got shit for their scheduling Louisville to open this season, the argument they made was that there's no crystal ball to say or know how good the Cards would in the future. And it's true.
 

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The current UCF team would wipe the floor with your Huskers and my Buffs. They would also be favored in games against 2/3 of Power 5 conference teams. UCF also has a chance to beat that elite 1/3 of Power 5 teams, (2018 Bama the exception), on a neutral site.

You interpret the, "can they pretty much compete with anyone", question however you like.
Nobody said anything about unranked teams, regardless of how i feel about that response. UCF would be lucky to finish in the top half of any p5 conference.
 

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FFS, I think I'm getting dumber by the minute staying down this low.... :tsk:

Let me introduce you to OP....


You all want to dance around this circle jerk of "We aren't saying they are top 4 worthy, but they deserve a chance at the playoffs because that's what the committee is supposed to do."

Quit being pussies about it. If you think they deserve a shot then say you think they should be top 4 because that's what getting a shot means.

Can someone please add some college football for dummies links up here for these people? I've got a major headache now. :tsk:
Yeah I don't think they do ( as stated in the OP) but I believe the 4 most deserving teams should get in . There are people here who don't believe the 4 most deserving should get in. Many here believe it should he the 4 best and if that's the case then you could certainly make a vakud argument for UCF if a few more upsets occur
 

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Most of these responses are mere assumption/putting words into comments that don't exist. There are arguments happening over words that were NEVER said. It's a fucking shit show.
Sure, because it's easier for you to assert that than defend this stupid crap you clearly said about transient properties of football being proof you can beat major P5 teams. Let's just try to spin this about people putting words in your mouth instead.
 

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It's funny b/c when Bama fans got shit for their scheduling Louisville to open this season, the argument they made was that there's no crystal ball to say or know how good the Cards would in the future. And it's true.

The argument works for P5 teams, not G5 teams. Funny double standard we have in college football. Everybody sucks Bama's dick because they lay 50-60 on shit teams but the minute we only beat a conference title contender by 1 point, "you play shit teams! Schedule better!"

It's laughable at this point.
 

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Noone here has said that UCF is top 4 worthy. IDK where you got that from.
so wait.. Are you speaking for ucf fans or no? Are you saying ucf fans do not believe they are top 4? I know im still a bit new here but i do how to use the quote function. So me speaking in general does not need a quote from here if i did not address anyone specific correct?
 

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It's funny b/c when Bama fans got shit for their scheduling Louisville to open this season, the argument they made was that there's no crystal ball to say or know how good the Cards would in the future. And it's true.
Difference is bama still plays 8 other p5's who also play ooc p5's
 

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Nobody said anything about unranked teams, regardless of how i feel about that response. UCF would be lucky to finish in the top half of any p5 conference.
They're obviously much better than you give them credit for. We can admit they aren't top 4 in CFB, but to say they'd be a P5 conference bottom-feeder is ludicrous.
 

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so wait.. Are you speaking for ucf fans or no? Are you saying ucf fans do not believe they are top 4? I know im still a bit new here but i do how to use the quote function. So me speaking in general does not need a quote from here if i did not address anyone specific correct?

Noone on this forum has said that UCF is a top 4 team, ESPECIALLY not a UCF fan. Do all these arguments over people saying UCF is a top 4 team are just people starting shit over things that were never said.
 

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They're obviously much better than you give them credit for. We can admit they aren't top 4 in CFB, but to say they'd be a P5 conference bottom-feeder is ludicrous.

But that would be admitting that a G5 team could complete with the P5 powerhouses and that's just not allowed on here.
 

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Got it. Don't try to schedule P5 teams that play for their conference title game 8 years in the future. Noted!

Nothing will change the fact UCF scheduled like shit ooc. Like I said though, be glad Pitt was better than normal.
 

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They're obviously much better than you give them credit for. We can admit they aren't top 4 in CFB, but to say they'd be a P5 conference bottom-feeder is ludicrous.
They are OBVIOUSLY not, if it was OBVIOUS this wouldnt be a conversation with you and terry in the minority. I never said they would be a bottom feeder i said middle of the pack a PURDUE/NORTHWESTERN/WISCONSIN/ OKIE LITE type team.........
 
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